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Pentagon Survivor April Gallop Suing Rummy/cheney

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post Dec 20 2008, 02:46 AM
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It’s odd the way people can say the airplane that supposedly hit the Pentagon vaporized when the rest of a predominantly wooden structure was left standing. I was a technician in a prescribed fire research unit and find the notion that aluminum disintegrates and wood doesn't do much of anything in the same event utterly unbelievable. I’m no engineer, all I did was keep Naval aircraft flying, but even I know the energy required to vaporize an aircraft the size of a 757 would have left a sizable area barren with hardly anything left standing. The sheeple may believe that much material can vaporize into thin air, but not me. The vaporized angle is one of the flimsiest excuses I’ve ever heard. I’ll see your 5 New Zealand pesos and raise you 1,000,000 Lower Slobbovian lead pazoozas (equal to 1 cent) that this story won't be easy to present to the general public.
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QUOTE (AtticusOwl @ Dec 19 2008, 01:03 AM) *
Skepticism is always healthy.

In this case, it is unwarranted.

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Welcome AtticusOwl.

Let's hope so by goodness.


I have asked myself many times: Where the hell are all the freeking US-Lawyers. Over here they are famous for achieving some extraordinary verdicts like Millions of US$ for a spilled cup of hot coffee or a misinterpreted hazard warning label.
But when it comes to 9/11 victims they all seem to be on holiday.

And let's hope, that this civil suit will have some chance.

I've read somewhere that (as ex-military person) April Gallop can't sue because of the clauses of the enlistment contract she's signed???

???
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post Dec 20 2008, 12:32 PM
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I believe that the fact that NO boeing 757 passed over or near the pentagon has been settled. No such aircraft is seen in any still photographs or in snippet of film released by the US Government. I am sure that many aviators have concluded this to be a false flag incident as do I. I would hope that one of the first crimes investigated thoroughly by the new President Elect will be what actually happened on September 11th of 2001. I believe that the US CIA, Israeli Mossad, and British intelligence are completely and entirely responsible for this act. I hope others think this way as well. best wishes to all

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post Dec 20 2008, 01:18 PM
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Welcome to the forum IRIQUOIS227
QUOTE (IRIQUOIS227 @ Dec 20 2008, 08:32 AM) *
I believe that the fact that NO boeing 757 passed over or near the pentagon has been settled.

Really?
http://www.thepentacon.com/northsideflyover.htm
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No such aircraft is seen in any still photographs or in snippet of film released by the US Government.

So, the absence of evidence is evidence of absence? rolleyes.gif
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I am sure that many aviators have concluded this to be a false flag incident as do I. I would hope that one of the first crimes investigated thoroughly by the new President Elect will be what actually happened on September 11th of 2001.

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I believe that the US CIA, Israeli Mossad, and British intelligence are completely and entirely responsible for this act. I hope others think this way as well. best wishes to all

tedbohne


You forgot the DoD. And, for the cover-up, FBI, NTSB, NIST, and of course MSNBC, ABC, CBS, FOX, etc.
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post Dec 20 2008, 02:20 PM
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QUOTE (panthercat @ Dec 18 2008, 05:46 AM) *
It’s odd the way people can say the airplane that supposedly hit the Pentagon vaporized when the rest of a predominantly wooden structure was left standing. I was a technician in a prescribed fire research unit and find the notion that aluminum disintegrates and wood doesn't do much of anything in the same event utterly unbelievable. I’m no engineer, all I did was keep Naval aircraft flying, but even I know the energy required to vaporize an aircraft the size of a 757 would have left a sizable area barren with hardly anything left standing. The sheeple may believe that much material can vaporize into thin air, but not me. The vaporized angle is one of the flimsiest excuses I’ve ever heard. I’ll see your 5 New Zealand pesos and raise you 1,000,000 Lower Slobbovian lead pazoozas (equal to 1 cent) that this story won't be easy to present to the general public.


Great point Panthercat. I really liked your "technical" point of view. I am continually (and I mean CONTINUALLY!) amazed about how people believe such unbelievable things sometimes. I mean what has happened to common sense,and,just plain knowing when things aren't right? When things "just don't add up". I try to equate it to people (including myself at times) just being so busy with life in general that they don't have time to sit and really evaluate things. Kind of like what Naomi Klein talks about in her book "The Shock Doctrine". The American sheeple are kept so busy with "whatever" they don't see what really is going on. It's like a longterm,lowgrade,chronic-type of "shock".

My 2 cents worth....

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oh,by the way,I'll double your bet to 2 cents. Will you take an IOU if Paulson and the thugs..uh, I mean "Feds" don't bail me out?
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post Jan 7 2009, 07:01 PM
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Skepticism is always healthy.

In this case, it is unwarranted.

The case was filed by April Gallop on December 15, 2008 in the United States District Court for the Southern District of New York.

The case is entitled April Gallop, for Herself and as Mother and Next of Friend of Elisha Gallop, a Minor v. Dick Cheney, Vice President of the U.S.A., Donald Rumsfeld, former U.S. Secretary of Defense, General Richard Meyers, U.S.A.F. (Ret.), and John Does I-X, all in their individual capacities, Case No. 08-CV-10881-DC.

Magistrate Judge Debra Freeman has been assigned to the case.

United States District Court Judge Denny Chin has been assigned to the case.


Still skeptical. All cases 9/11 related are under Judge Hellerstein.
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September 11th Litigation Cases
Information for Counsel in September 11 Litigation

Unless otherwise noted, all hearings and conferences will be held in Judge Hellerstein’s courtroom, 14D, 500 Pearl Street.

Cases involving claims arising out of, resulting from, or relating to the terrorist-related aircraft crashes of September 11, 2001 and naming an airline, an airport security company, and/or The Port Authority of New York and New Jersey have been consolidated for discovery and other pre-trial proceedings. Honorable Alvin K. Hellerstein, District Judge, is presiding. Counsel in such cases should familiarize themselves with Judge Hellerstein’s Rules of Practice and Rules for Sept. 11 Consolidated Cases, as well as his rulings relating to the September 11 Litigation


http://www1.nysd.uscourts.gov/cases.php?form=sept11

Also she wasn Army Specialist, not a career officer.
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QUOTE (Ricochet @ Jan 7 2009, 06:01 PM) *
Still skeptical. All cases 9/11 related are under Judge Hellerstein.


http://www1.nysd.uscourts.gov/cases.php?form=sept11

Also she wasn Army Specialist, not a career officer.


The "cover up" is only possible because of the financial clout of the Israeli lobby and the stranglehold on the media Israeli intereswts have on the media.

Any attempt to enforce accountability must necessarily also include an effort to expose the media participation in the cover up.
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post Mar 12 2009, 10:33 PM
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QUOTE (G0560 @ Mar 12 2009, 07:15 PM) *
The "cover up" is only possible blahblah1.gif blahblah1.gif blahblah1.gif


Yeah, if it weren't for the Israeli lobby, the UNITED STATES OLIGARCHY couldn't get away with sh*t. rolleyes.gif whistle.gif pilotfly.gif
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http://dockets.justia.com/docket/court-nys...case_id-337422/
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Its a 'rigged game''......When the facts don't fit the American Mythology, they throw out the facts....
...anyone know the status of the appeal?!



On March 15th, 2010, Judge Denny Chin dismissed with prejudice the case of Gallop v. Cheney, et. al., ruling that the Complaint was frivolous and based on “cynical delusion and fantasy.” The full text is posted under “News” on this site. Anyone who has followed the case and supported the Center’s efforts in this matter deserves a response to Judge Chin’s decision. It follows.

The opening brief on appeal, notice of which has been filed, may well begin with the following paragraph:

When April Gallop sat down at her desk at the Pentagon on September 11, 2001, with her two-month old baby son, Elisha, in his basket beside her, she was as far from conceiving of evil at the highest levels of American Government as was Federal District Court Judge Denny Chin when he asked plaintiff’s counsel at the pre-motion conference if this lawsuit was filed in good faith. Unfortunately, in spite of reading 65 pages of affidavits appended to our Response to the Motion to Dismiss, all of which he chose to ignore, he was still no closer to that conception than when the suit began. He granted the motion to dismiss because in his view, the claims made there were frivolous and based on “cynical delusion and fantasy.” When those words were written, the court embraced with energy a manifest historical ignorance, blindness to a fundamental human impulse which concedes the attraction of evil to power, and a supreme denial, vast in scope and scale, fortified and impregnable.

The government raised a number of issues in its Motion to Dismiss, including the statute of limitations, governmental and intra-military immunity, and frivolousness, the claim that the case was without conceivable legal or factual basis. Judge Chin addressed only the last of these grounds, finding the accusations to be driven by delusion.

The decision will be something of a shock to anyone who has spent any time at all studying the evidence in the case, but even more so if one sets the Complaint and the Decision next to each other and then compares the two. In so doing the reader learns how many of our allegations find no mention in Judge Chin’s prose. Worse than the number left out, however, is his choice of excluded factual claims. Premier among them is the one that has to do with Defendant Cheney’s activities on the morning of September 11th, the subject of testimony given by Secretary Norman Mineta to the 9/11 Commission. Rather than have to deal with the thorny matter of explaining Cheney’s actions, Judge Chin decided not to mention them at all.

In his decision, Judge Chin could have adopted the finding of the Commission which contradicts Secretary Mineta’s testimony. The 9/11 Commission found that Vice President Cheney was not in the room for Secretary Mineta to hear or observe conversations between Cheney and one of his operatives. By implication it found that Secretary Mineta was delusional when he recounted the remarks of the young man and Cheney’s response to them, which Mineta then enhanced with a visual image of Cheney “whipping his head around.” Mineta clearly told the Commission of the young man’s reporting of the progress of the plane heading for the Pentagon, first 50 miles out, then 30, then 10. When Cheney responded to the aide’s question about the orders still standing, he said, “of course, the orders still stand; have you heard anything to the contrary?” Mineta’s testimony that Cheney changed his body position as he spoke those words, would normally require a further level of explanation, were the entire account to be dismissed as “delusion,” but Judge Chin decided to make no effort to confront the issue, whatsoever.

Had Judge Chin adopted, in his decision, the Commission’s implied finding, his action would have contravened a fundamental premise of law, that in ruling on a motion to dismiss, the judge must assume pleaded facts to be true. A motion to dismiss is not an opportunity to have a trial without having one; it is simply an opportunity for the judge to weed out lawsuits that are based upon allegations that insufficiently establish the theoretical possibility that the defendant may be liable. Had we said only what the judge said we said, his ruling would have been wrong but theoretically supportable, but we said much, much more, and his failure to acknowledge the fact raises questions that are disturbing in the extreme.

As a second example of judicial avoidance, Judge Chin made no mention of the fact that two governmental entities, the National Transportation Safety Administration and the 9/11 Commission, could not agree on the supposed flight path of the plane alleged to have hit the Pentagon. Necessarily ignored as well are the unavoidable inferences of governmental complicity, in the cover-up and in the execution of the attack, that arise from the disagreement. The incompetence of governmental entities may be posited as an explanation for the disagreement, but for a judge to make such a finding before a trial, is to invade the province of the jury.

As a third instance, Judge Chin ignored entirely the passages in the Complaint which refer to expert analyses of the contents of the purported “black box,” supposedly belonging to Flight 77 and supposedly found in the Pentagon. Veteran pilots have determined that what is alleged to have come from the flight data recorder is completely inconsistent, not only with the physical ability of a Boeing 757, if it were to have come in contact with the building, not only with the known functions and capabilities of flight data recorders, but also with the videotaped evidence of the flying object which the government claims captures the impact of that object with the wall of the Pentagon. The only possible tactic that a judge could choose in deciding to dismiss this case, given the contents of the Complaint, is to ignore page upon page of printed words.

As a final example, Judge Chin makes no reference to the fundamental importance that must be attached to the physical whereabouts of Defendants Rumsfeld and Myers as the attacks were carried out. Their presence at the heart of the military command structure at the critical moments that morning is established by no less a figure than the then-Chief of Counterterrorism, Richard Clarke, and this for some considerable number of minutes before, and as the explosion at the Pentagon took place. The two highest ranking members of the chain of command, other than the President, were thus at the helm and saddled with the duty of protecting the country and the soldiers at the Pentagon in those moments. Whatever efforts they made to prevent the attack on the Pentagon were unsuccessful even though sufficient time and armaments existed to mount a defense. If they were, as is alleged in the Complaint, in the National Military Command Center, in full view by Richard Clarke, and presumably taped on a video-teleconference screen, they cannot avoid the scrutiny that ordinarily follows failure in the line of duty. Judge Chin was aware, since these facts were set out in the Complaint, of the crucial fact that Rumsfeld and Myers have both denied their presence at the video-teleconference and at the heart of the command structure shortly after the South Tower was hit, and the world knew that a terrorist attack was under way. Judge Chin’s decision makes no allusion to these crucial facts, thereby adopting the simplest manner of avoiding the damning implications.

It must be noted as well that, in addition to the omissions set out above, Judge Chin avoided addressing one other matter raised unmistakably in April Gallop’s allegations. In addition to alleging that the three defendants conspired to commit mass murder, the Complaint also asserts that the defendants were aware of the danger faced by occupants in the Pentagon in sufficient time to evacuate the building and save many lives, but did nothing. Not one paragraph, sentence, phrase or word in Judge Chin’s decision addresses this claim.

The Center’s appeal will seek reversal in the Second Circuit, a process that could take a year or more. For those interested, a line by line, factual allegation by factual allegation analysis and comparison will be posted when it is prepared.

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Poor old James Madison! He has probably rolled over in his grave quite a few times now, realizing that his noble idea and hope that the federal judiciary would be "the last bastion against tyranny" was utterly in vain.

Judge Chin is as corrupt as the most corrupt elected official. The rule of law in this country is history.
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QUOTE (painter @ Dec 20 2008, 01:18 PM) *
Welcome to the forum IRIQUOIS227

Really?
http://www.thepentacon.com/northsideflyover.htm

So, the absence of evidence is evidence of absence? rolleyes.gif

LOL laughing1.gif


You forgot the DoD. And, for the cover-up, FBI, NTSB, NIST, and of course MSNBC, ABC, CBS, FOX, etc.



And the American Society of Civil Engineers, who Architects & Engineers for 9/11 Truth brought to my attention as being complicit. I looked them up and boy are they ever complicit:


Academics helped to explain the collapses of the Twin Towers in articles in respected publications. Just two days after the attack, a scientific paper purported to fully explain the unprecedented engineering failures using "elastic dynamic analysis." "Why Did the World Trade Center Collapse? - Simple Analysis" was published in the Journal of Engineering Mechanics ASCE on 9/13/01. Peer review of this paper and of other theories volunteering to explain the collapses was conspicuously absent.

http://911research.wtc7.net/disinfo/index.html

TWO FREAKING DAYS??? Why, they may have had it ready to go BEFORE 9/11.
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QUOTE (susano @ Sep 7 2010, 01:32 AM) *
And the American Society of Civil Engineers, who Architects & Engineers for 9/11 Truth brought to my attention as being complicit. I looked them up and boy are they ever complicit:


Academics helped to explain the collapses of the Twin Towers in articles in respected publications. Just two days after the attack, a scientific paper purported to fully explain the unprecedented engineering failures using "elastic dynamic analysis." "Why Did the World Trade Center Collapse? - Simple Analysis" was published in the Journal of Engineering Mechanics ASCE on 9/13/01. Peer review of this paper and of other theories volunteering to explain the collapses was conspicuously absent.

http://911research.wtc7.net/disinfo/index.html

TWO FREAKING DAYS??? Why, they may have had it ready to go BEFORE 9/11.


Susano -- Bazant and Zhou perhaps did their best to explain the collapses. However, their analysis suffers from a lack of access to evidence to build their model. I would not lay blame at the ASCE.

-- this thread is about the Pentagon survivor April Gallop. You;'ll find better places to post about the towers in WTC sections.
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QUOTE (JackD @ Sep 8 2010, 10:40 PM) *
Susano -- Bazant and Zhou perhaps did their best to explain the collapses. However, their analysis suffers from a lack of access to evidence to build their model. I would not lay blame at the ASCE.

-- this thread is about the Pentagon survivor April Gallop. You;'ll find better places to post about the towers in WTC sections.


I was responding to the other poster who mentioned entities complict. It was not my intention to stray from the subject of the lawsuit but to partcipate in the thread. Maybe you would like to scold everyone for comments not specific to the suit.
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April Gallop is a brave person.

The sad truth is that her name is just 1 on a very long list of people whose rights have be trampled upon by the government.

And in her particular case, she was a victim of the government's attempts to quash the truth about the events at WTC and elsewhere. The coverup is yet another crime committed by our overlords.
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Amidst Growing World Doubts About 9/11, Career Army Officer Takes Bush Administration Officials to Court April 5th Represented by the Center for 9/11 Justice

NEW YORK, March 23, 2011 /PRNewswire/ --

A December 2010 poll conducted by the prestigious Emnid Institute, and reported in the German magazine "Welt der Wunder," revealed that 89.5% of German respondents do not believe the official story of 9/11.

The issue is heating up in America as well, and will soon be heard in court.

Top Secret Military Specialist April Gallop saw disturbing things up close that have not been reported in the media.

On the morning of September 11, 2001, she was ordered by her supervisor to go directly to work at the Pentagon, before dropping off her ten-week-old son Elisha at day care.

Amazingly, the infant was given immediate security clearance upon arrival.

The instant Gallop turned on her computer an enormous explosion blew her out of her chair, knocking her momentarily unconscious.

Escaping through the hole reportedly made by Flight 77, she saw no signs of an aircraft - no seats, luggage, metal, or human remains. Her watch (and other clocks nearby) had stopped at 9:30-9:31 a.m., seven minutes before the Pentagon was allegedly struck at 9:38 a.m.

The 9/11 Commission reported that "by no later than 9:18 a.m., FAA centers in Indianapolis, Cleveland, and Washington were aware that Flight 77 was missing and that two aircraft had struck the World Trade Center."

Why then were there no anti-aircraft defenses, Gallop asks, or alarm warnings inside the Pentagon?

Gallop was briefed by officials not to tell her story in public; she also received an email from a Fox News reporter who had been told by the Pentagon not to interview her.

Gallop now believes that officials within the Bush Administration conspired to destroy the Twin Towers of the World Trade Center and WTC 7 - the third building brought down at 5:20 p.m. that day - with pre-placed explosives detonated after the planes hit.

On April 5th, 2011, at 11 a.m., at the Federal Courthouse at 141 Church Street in New Haven, Connecticut, the case of Gallop v. Cheney, Rumsfeld, and Myers will be heard by the United States Court of Appeals for the 2nd Circuit.

Gallop's case relies on virtually all forms of evidence admissible in court, but significantly, on published scientific evidence that residues of these explosives were found in the rubble after the attacks. In its totality the proffered case establishes that the government hypothesis - that the buildings collapsed due to fire in combination with the airplane impacts - is scientifically untenable.

In addition, Ms. Gallop will, through photographic and other physical evidence, as well as the testimony of a multitude of military and civilian survivors, demonstrate the impossibility of her having lived through the attack on the Pentagon if it had taken place as the government and the defendants claim.

German Federal Judge, Deiter Dieseroth, stated in December 2009 that:

"No independent court has applied legal procedures to review the available evidence on who was responsible for the attacks."

Also, that "it is not acceptable for a constitutional state...to declare war, bomb a foreign country, and place it under military occupation," without first identifying suspects.

Dieseroth also said the U.S. "was under burden of proof" that Osama bin Laden was responsible for the attacks, yet the FBI admits it has no evidence presentable in court to back this up.

The stakes in this case are epic, including the possibility of an overwhelming transformation of the world's understanding of history, not to mention American citizens' relationship with their government.

Media contact: William Veale centerfor911justice@gmail.com, 292929@msn.com, 510-845-5675, 925-212-3678

SOURCE Center for 9/11 Justice

http://www.americanbankingnews.com/2011/03...or-911-justice/


http://pilotsfor911truth.org/pentagon_lawsuit.html
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I keep wishing for there to be a way to lock Lloyd England into a room with April Gallop, and let her ask him a few questions. I'm sure she could get him to change his story, just by "talking" to him.

Other than that, I sure hope that she gets "her day in Court"; and that the "Legal System" will pay attention to her. She is one BRAVE AMERICAN!

I wish we had a "Witness Protection Program" that would "work" for her; but I realize that's impossible.

I'll keep praying that "nothing happens to her", so she gets her chance to "tell it like it is" (or was).
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I just read that entire complaint, and her lawyer is an idiot! He gave the judge way too much information to object to, ensuring that it would be dismissed. He was obviously a 9-11 truther, which is fine, but April Gallop should not be attempting to try the whole 9-11 issue in court, only her part in it; that is, that the Pentagon brass were well aware with many minutes warning that a plane or missile was incoming and did nothing to either evacuate the building, nor was a defense of any kind mounted. THAT's the part that doesn't make sense, and is an egregious dereliction of duty. The woman kinda had the right to expect that if she and her baby was safe anywhere, it's in the world's most protected (and expensive!) military headquarters.

The rest of that entire complaint is PR gravy for the law firm. If you want to get to the bottom of that day, you need a different venue than a personal injury lawsuit, which is what this is. You need a grand jury and subpoena power. And a dungeon to keep the principals in during the trial rolleyes.gif
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here attorney is an incompetent. so is she.

it almost makes you wonder if they are accomplices so as to forever bury any future litigation.

i have too good a recollection of how this works. sad to say. the strawman offense.
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blurb from WRH:

Judge John Walker, George Walker Bush's cousin, judges April Gallop's suit
04/06/2011
Status: On April 5, 2011 the appeal of the case of Gallop v. Cheney, Rumsfeld, and Myers was heard by the United States Court of Appeals for the 2nd Circuit at 11 a.m. at New Haven, Connecticut. But one of the 3 judges turned out to be George Walker Bush's cousin, Judge John M. Walker Jr., an obvious conflict of interest.


imagine that...
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