The 9/11 Mystery Plane & The Vanishing Of America, Book review of Mark Gaffney's failed effort |

Dec 17 2008, 08:42 PM
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Group: Contributor Posts: 1,072 Joined: 15-October 06 Member No.: 75 |
Ok this is a VERY detailed and VERY involved review but it gets out a lot of extremely important information.
I worked real hard to untangle an extremely messy and convoluted web here but my personal involvement with it all should make for an interesting read. This book is one of the most desperate, pathetic, and embarrassing serious efforts I have seen yet. Please take the time to go over my detailed review and let me know if you have any questions or what you guys think. http://www.thepentacon.com/MarkGaffney.htm |
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Dec 18 2008, 02:07 PM
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Group: Global Mod Posts: 5,019 Joined: 2-October 07 From: USA, a Federal corporation Member No.: 2,294 |
There just are no words for it SP... Perhaps "911files" should consult "Bananaman" instead of an aspirin bottle. (IMG:http://pilotsfor911truth.org/forum/style_emoticons/default/ohmy.gif)
So was there recently a major "colonic" over at ATS or what? |
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Dec 18 2008, 10:13 PM
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Patriotic American Group: Valued Member Posts: 518 Joined: 14-May 07 From: Where I am standing on the RUINS of the 9-11 OFFICIAL STORY Member No.: 1,045 |
There just are no words for it SP... Perhaps "911files" should consult "Bananaman" instead of an aspirin bottle. (IMG:http://pilotsfor911truth.org/forum/style_emoticons/default/ohmy.gif) So was there recently a major "colonic" over at ATS or what? Farmer was receiving some strong attacks from a lot of good people over at ATS, but Craig and Aldo would know better than I exactly what pushed Farmer over the edge. |
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Dec 23 2008, 09:10 PM
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Group: Student Forum Pilot Posts: 82 Joined: 23-December 08 Member No.: 4,041 |
Craig,I am disappointed with the findings about Mark's book. I bought it and read it about 2 months ago and wrote a favorable review on Amazon.com. But, thanks for your research and alerting us. The fact that DR Griffith did the foward on the book leant credibility to it -- so I thought.
It seems the reason or the motive for why Mark did what he did, was to probably sell a book instead of being a disinfo agent. Foreknowledge would sell more books than just writing about a white plane that showed up after the fact. But, although I am not new to the 9/11 truth movement, there is still alot of new information I am learning about all the time. It will go from learning about the E-4B and then finding out disinfo about it or something else. What is easy to understand with CIT's information is the witnesses accounts, which cannot be disputed. England's account, can be disputed. Back to Gaffney.Let's put his book and it's first 4 chapters aside and let's talk about something we all will agree on. If the E-4B was able to be manned and ready for take off to be able to arrive 5 or 6 or 8 minute or however long it was AFTER the attack on the Pentagon (It's difficult to remember verbatim from your 10,000 word review of Gaffney's book (IMG:http://pilotsfor911truth.org/forum/style_emoticons/default/salute.gif) ) --- then there was enough time for Pentagon officials to order an evacuation of the Pentagon. Not to mention TSA's Norman Mineta's testimony (which was ommitted from the Commission final report) that a young military man was telling Cheney that the plane was "50 miles out,40 miles out, 30 miles out",etc. Or if the E-4B was already airborne because it was involved in one of the wargame exercises, it was and is the responsibility of the commission or officials to explain where this plane was at the time they learned of any of the initial attacks on the WTC's or of news of hijackings. So you can tie in the E-4B and Mineta's statement with proving that the Pentagon officials purposely ignored evacuation procedures and should be held liable for the deaths of the employees on the impact side of the Pentagon. This post has been edited by madtruth: Dec 23 2008, 09:24 PM |
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Dec 24 2008, 04:50 PM
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Group: Contributor Posts: 1,072 Joined: 15-October 06 Member No.: 75 |
Craig,I am disappointed with the findings about Mark's book. I bought it and read it about 2 months ago and wrote a favorable review on Amazon.com. But, thanks for your research and alerting us. The fact that DR Griffith did the foward on the book leant credibility to it -- so I thought. It seems the reason or the motive for why Mark did what he did, was to probably sell a book instead of being a disinfo agent. Foreknowledge would sell more books than just writing about a white plane that showed up after the fact. Yes this is an easier take on the whole situation to accept. Unfortunately Gaffney took it further then that with the "Afterword" written by John Farmer plus his "mistakes" were so ridiculously egregious and transparent that even greed can't adequately explain it. This book was meant to be a vehicle for false info. Gaffney knew full well it would destroy his credibility but it did not matter because this is his job. He isn't this stupid. He writes too well to be that stupid! (IMG:http://pilotsfor911truth.org/forum/style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif) QUOTE But, although I am not new to the 9/11 truth movement, there is still alot of new information I am learning about all the time. It will go from learning about the E-4B and then finding out disinfo about it or something else. What is easy to understand with CIT's information is the witnesses accounts, which cannot be disputed. England's account, can be disputed. Now you're on the right track! (IMG:http://pilotsfor911truth.org/forum/style_emoticons/default/yes1.gif) QUOTE Back to Gaffney.Let's put his book and it's first 4 chapters aside and let's talk about something we all will agree on. If the E-4B was able to be manned and ready for take off to be able to arrive 5 or 6 or 8 minute or however long it was AFTER the attack on the Pentagon (It's difficult to remember verbatim from your 10,000 word review of Gaffney's book (IMG:http://pilotsfor911truth.org/forum/style_emoticons/default/salute.gif) ) --- then there was enough time for Pentagon officials to order an evacuation of the Pentagon. Not to mention TSA's Norman Mineta's testimony (which was ommitted from the Commission final report) that a young military man was telling Cheney that the plane was "50 miles out,40 miles out, 30 miles out",etc. Or if the E-4B was already airborne because it was involved in one of the wargame exercises, it was and is the responsibility of the commission or officials to explain where this plane was at the time they learned of any of the initial attacks on the WTC's or of news of hijackings. So you can tie in the E-4B and Mineta's statement with proving that the Pentagon officials purposely ignored evacuation procedures and should be held liable for the deaths of the employees on the impact side of the Pentagon. Well of course. But since we have evidence proving a complete and total deception it is reasonable to suggest that absolutely everything was done with a purpose and reason behind it. Once we start embracing information because it demonstrates foreknowledge it leads us off the path that inexplicably proves full-on deliberate planning and execution of the event. It's clear to me that Gaffney deliberately walks the LIHOP/MIHOP line for this very purpose. LIHOP is a white-wash. Plain and simple. We can't accept it and we mustn't focus on this simply because it may seem easier to prove. |
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Craig Ranke CIT The 9/11 Mystery Plane & The Vanishing Of America Dec 17 2008, 08:42 PM
rob balsamo Thanks for your hard work reviewing the claims of ... Dec 17 2008, 08:54 PM
keroseneaddict QUOTE (Craig Ranke CIT @ Dec 17 2008, 07... Dec 17 2008, 09:12 PM
richard cranium Nice work Craig. These guys have to be exposed. B... Dec 17 2008, 09:13 PM
Craig Ranke CIT QUOTE (richard cranium @ Dec 18 2008, 02... Dec 17 2008, 09:38 PM
richard cranium QUOTE (Craig Ranke CIT @ Dec 15 2008, 11... Dec 17 2008, 09:45 PM
dMole So was this "pinnacle" E4B "white p... Dec 18 2008, 03:55 AM
JackD QUOTE (dMole @ Dec 16 2008, 05:55 AM) So ... Dec 18 2008, 04:43 AM
Craig Ranke CIT QUOTE (dMole @ Dec 18 2008, 07:55 AM) So ... Dec 18 2008, 11:38 AM
dMole As I recall, "pinnacle" never responded ... Dec 18 2008, 12:02 PM
SPreston QUOTE In other words John Farmer lied about the ev... Dec 18 2008, 01:40 PM
madtruth After reading your replies and the other posts, yo... Dec 26 2008, 12:30 AM
painter Craig -- I'm enjoying reading this. I'm a ... Dec 18 2008, 02:37 PM
Craig Ranke CIT QUOTE (painter @ Dec 18 2008, 06:37 PM) C... Dec 18 2008, 03:32 PM
painter This is a GREAT paragraph:
QUOTE So since this is ... Dec 18 2008, 02:56 PM
painter VERY well done, Craig. I especially like the ... Dec 18 2008, 03:28 PM
Craig Ranke CIT QUOTE (painter @ Dec 18 2008, 07:28 PM) V... Dec 18 2008, 03:41 PM
Craig Ranke CIT Gaffney put out his first public reply to my revie... Dec 24 2008, 04:52 PM
Craig Ranke CIT Mark Gaffney wrote:
QUOTE (Mark Gaffney)I will no... Dec 24 2008, 04:54 PM
Craig Ranke CIT QUOTE Also, the press reports seem to indicate a c... Dec 24 2008, 04:54 PM
woody I haven't read Gaffney's book yet because ... Dec 29 2008, 01:28 PM
Craig Ranke CIT QUOTE (woody @ Dec 29 2008, 06:28 PM) Wha... Dec 29 2008, 02:22 PM
Craig Ranke CIT New development in the Gaffney soap opera.
His ... Dec 29 2008, 02:36 PM
rob balsamo Geeeze.... i guess now everyone knows why Farmer h... Dec 29 2008, 02:49 PM
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