The 9/11 Mystery Plane & The Vanishing Of America, Book review of Mark Gaffney's failed effort |

Dec 17 2008, 08:42 PM
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Ok this is a VERY detailed and VERY involved review but it gets out a lot of extremely important information.
I worked real hard to untangle an extremely messy and convoluted web here but my personal involvement with it all should make for an interesting read. This book is one of the most desperate, pathetic, and embarrassing serious efforts I have seen yet. Please take the time to go over my detailed review and let me know if you have any questions or what you guys think. http://www.thepentacon.com/MarkGaffney.htm |
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Dec 24 2008, 04:52 PM
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Gaffney put out his first public reply to my review:
QUOTE I will not rebut Craig's caustic review. But I do have some comments. I must confess I stopped reading about half way through it, after he started to entangle me in his fly-over hypothesis. Craig doesn't mention it but the release of the RADES radar data was damaging to the official 9/11 story, quite apart from the E-4B issue, because it revealed the 5-10 minute diversion of the Langley fighters south of Washington. This third wild goose chase occurred while Flight 93 was still in the air and was not admitted by the US military, nor by the 9/11 Commission in its report. So, no question, there was a "cover up." I suspect -- but cannot prove -- that Lynn Spencer was blessed with special access to bring this embarrassing episode to light in her book Touching History -- released a few months before my book, only after individuals in the US military realized that the RADES radar data was going to be released. As of now, though, it is not possible to know exactly how all of this played out. None of the flights out of Andrews (except for the C-130) were a part of the official story. My book is the first attempt to bring this to light. Craig seems to imply that the identity of VENUS 77 became known with the release of the RADES radar data in October 2007. But this is not correct. We only confirmed that VENUS 77 and SWORD 31 were E-4Bs a few days before the book went to press, from just-released FAA documents. It is true that the CNN raw footage might have led me to this conclusion sooner. John Farmer suggested this as early as May 2008. Spencer also guessed that VENUS 77 was the mystery plane, as did Pinnacle, at various times. (See p 93 of my book - at bottom) However, I was not convinced because of the 9:41 AM report by Peter Jennings of a plane over the White House. At which time VENUS 77 was still on the tarmac at Andrews. It did not depart until 9:44 AM. The Jennings report remains unexplained to this day. Also, the press reports seem to indicate a close pass; and Bob Kur has just confirmed this. Whereas VENUS 77 never came closer than two miles. And there are other press reports and eyewitness accounts of an unidentified plane circling over Washington before or at the time of the Pentagon strike. So there was a basis. Nonetheless, I should have connected VENUS 77 with the CNN footage sooner. This was my error. I should mention that the issue is still not settled. Although NBC White House correspondent Bob Kur declined to be interviewed previously, he has recently been answering my questions. See the blog for more about this recent dialogue. Kur's new testimony about what he saw does not match the known flight path of VENUS 77. CIT's Craig Ranke has never seen the full length CNN video so he is unaware that there are two separate E-4B segments, not just one. They are back-to-back in the video but still separate. When Robin Hordon studied the CNN video he concluded these were two different E-4Bs. I didn't agree at the time, but based on what Kur has just told me I wonder now if Hordon was right. It's now clear that the two stills we pulled from the first segment (the pan and the zoom on pp 44-45 of my book) are a match with VENUS 77. However, the third still shot on page 46 is from the second segment and is still at issue. The question is whether this is a telephoto of an E-4B six miles away or a close up. If the E-4B is 6 miles away then it is VENUS 77. But if it's a close up this is additional powerful evidence for an as yet unaccounted-for E-4B. Video expert Ken Jenkins is helping with this. One final comment on the matter of tampering: Despite what Ranke says in his review, the 25-second time lag in the RADES radar data remains unexplained, and there is every possibility that data was altered. John Farmer also found irregularities in the short range radar data: a serious azimuth shift and a series of time lags, but apparently not enough to throw out the data. In my opinion, all of the radar data from 9/11 is suspect. source See my reply in next post. |
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Craig Ranke CIT The 9/11 Mystery Plane & The Vanishing Of America Dec 17 2008, 08:42 PM
rob balsamo Thanks for your hard work reviewing the claims of ... Dec 17 2008, 08:54 PM
keroseneaddict QUOTE (Craig Ranke CIT @ Dec 17 2008, 07... Dec 17 2008, 09:12 PM
richard cranium Nice work Craig. These guys have to be exposed. B... Dec 17 2008, 09:13 PM
Craig Ranke CIT QUOTE (richard cranium @ Dec 18 2008, 02... Dec 17 2008, 09:38 PM
richard cranium QUOTE (Craig Ranke CIT @ Dec 15 2008, 11... Dec 17 2008, 09:45 PM
dMole So was this "pinnacle" E4B "white p... Dec 18 2008, 03:55 AM
JackD QUOTE (dMole @ Dec 16 2008, 05:55 AM) So ... Dec 18 2008, 04:43 AM
Craig Ranke CIT QUOTE (dMole @ Dec 18 2008, 07:55 AM) So ... Dec 18 2008, 11:38 AM
dMole As I recall, "pinnacle" never responded ... Dec 18 2008, 12:02 PM
SPreston QUOTE In other words John Farmer lied about the ev... Dec 18 2008, 01:40 PM
dMole There just are no words for it SP... Perhaps ... Dec 18 2008, 02:07 PM
SPreston QUOTE (dMole @ Dec 18 2008, 01:07 PM) The... Dec 18 2008, 10:13 PM
madtruth Craig,I am disappointed with the findings about Ma... Dec 23 2008, 09:10 PM
Craig Ranke CIT QUOTE (madtruth @ Dec 24 2008, 01:10 AM) ... Dec 24 2008, 04:50 PM
madtruth After reading your replies and the other posts, yo... Dec 26 2008, 12:30 AM
painter Craig -- I'm enjoying reading this. I'm a ... Dec 18 2008, 02:37 PM
Craig Ranke CIT QUOTE (painter @ Dec 18 2008, 06:37 PM) C... Dec 18 2008, 03:32 PM
painter This is a GREAT paragraph:
QUOTE So since this is ... Dec 18 2008, 02:56 PM
painter VERY well done, Craig. I especially like the ... Dec 18 2008, 03:28 PM
Craig Ranke CIT QUOTE (painter @ Dec 18 2008, 07:28 PM) V... Dec 18 2008, 03:41 PM
Craig Ranke CIT Mark Gaffney wrote:
QUOTE (Mark Gaffney)I will no... Dec 24 2008, 04:54 PM
Craig Ranke CIT QUOTE Also, the press reports seem to indicate a c... Dec 24 2008, 04:54 PM
woody I haven't read Gaffney's book yet because ... Dec 29 2008, 01:28 PM
Craig Ranke CIT QUOTE (woody @ Dec 29 2008, 06:28 PM) Wha... Dec 29 2008, 02:22 PM
Craig Ranke CIT New development in the Gaffney soap opera.
His ... Dec 29 2008, 02:36 PM
rob balsamo Geeeze.... i guess now everyone knows why Farmer h... Dec 29 2008, 02:49 PM
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