Sanders' Religion Thread, Begun @ LC Forum Options

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e-Dog and I have decided to re-constitute this from LC. It is a thread about the 3 major religions of the world. The goal was to follow the path of each from their common origins to the present day. We (a number of LC posters and I) got as far as the begining of the First Crusade while the thread was active.

What becomes of this thread when all the copying is done is not clear. It may be just a read-only thread for the Religion topic. Or it may be left open to posting, so we can finish the journey.

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Posted by: DayAfterTomorrow Jul 31 2006, 06:07 AM

well i was just meaning that ... here you have two groups of people ... both with a "holy book." both said to be inspired by God. so unless God is just instigating a fight to give him/her something to watch ... then i'm gonna stand by the fact that they're both wrong.

as if i'm supposed to choose sides or something. i'm not about to believe something just because one story sounds better than the other. they both have a lot of good things that they promote .. as well as bad things .. but its considered blasphemy to just pick and choose. like you believe it all or none at all.

any group of people that deal in absolutes shouldnt be trusted.
Bush: "you're either with us .. or with the terrorists"
Bible: "you're either of me or of Satan"

screw all of that!

The Bible came before the Qu'ran, chronologically, if that matters at all. They are NOT the same God, actually, and if you look at the characteristics of each, that is quite evident; nothing against you or anything, they just have two very different natures.

Actually, the Bible does not promote bad things, whereas the Qu'ran specifically targets the Jews as a race to kill. That is also a huge difference. I have many athiest and agnostic friends, and they tell me the problem with Christianity/Judaism is that the majority of the Christians and Jews that exemplify those religions are huge hypocrites, extremely pushy about their beliefs, and often can't substantiate what they claim. The inherent flaw with Christianity and Judaism, if not with all religions in general, is people. People are imperfect. The difference between the Bible and the Qu'ran as far as this discussion has gone, is that the Bible accepts the fact that humans are imperfect, as we are designed to be, and institutes a plan of action to rectify this imperfection, which is salvation. But, if you notice, the only way the Bible says you can achieve salvation is through God alone, God whom is perfect. The Qu'ran does not have a plan of action to solve for imperfection, and to my knowledge, you don't know what Allah has in store for you.

The problem with Christians is they do not read their Bibles, and if they do, they do not do so correctly. God did not write in English, so why do Christian pastors read their Bibles from the English translations? The Bible was written in Hebrew, Greek, and Aramaic, so it only makes sense that a pastor should be able to teach the Bible from those languages. Otherwise, you have the problem of inaccurate translations, like my "wife" example above, and many many more. Christian's claim to "know and love" their God, but when it comes right down to it, most do not even know what the Bible says about God. I could go on and on about this, so I'll stop. The point is, the average Christian is not an adequate representative of the religion.

I am a Christian, but I do not attend church physically because you don't learn anything about God. You learn about salvation on Sunday mornings and sin on Wednesday nights, and to me, that is complete BS. The Bible contains infinately more aspects than salvation and sin alone.

I have a great respect for Islamic people as a whole, as my best friend for 15 years is Islamic, so I don't want to create the impression that I hate them, I just disagree.