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Video Shows Concrete Core Wall Falling Into Core., No steel core columns ever seen in the core area.

Christophera
post Dec 25 2008, 03:05 PM
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More an more evidence keeps showing up that substanciates the steel reinforced cast concrete, rectangular, tubular core of the Twin Towers. This means the entire truth movement is completely mislead and the post 9-11 psyops is running the truth movement.

Static Annotation of Triangular Concrete pic falling into the core of WTC 1
(IMG:http://i716.photobucket.com/albums/ww168/S_N_A_F_U/wtc1corefall2.jpg)

Slower animation sequence of the same piece of the WTC1 core wall destruction.
(IMG:http://i716.photobucket.com/albums/ww168/S_N_A_F_U/core_animation_75.gif)

That is absolutely a huge piece of concrete. The vertical steel seen are either elevator guide rail supports or box columns outside the core.

Here's the original video link so those who want the whole thing can get to it.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-dWBBEtA5bI[/quote]


The psyops has the truth movement using plans from silverstein who made $6 billion from insurance and it is easily shown the plans have been digitally altered to appear as final drawings and also remnants of ground zero prove the plans do not represent the design of the core.

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amazed!
post Jan 19 2009, 06:20 PM
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Christophera

I had not read the Newsweek piece before. That does make your argument rather persuasive.

Judging from the statements he made to Newsweek, it almost sounds like Robertson was in on it.

And I suppose if your theory is valid, he would be?
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post Jan 19 2009, 07:24 PM
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QUOTE (amazed! @ Jan 17 2009, 09:20 PM) *
Christophera

I had not read the Newsweek piece before. That does make your argument rather persuasive.

Judging from the statements he made to Newsweek, it almost sounds like Robertson was in on it.

And I suppose if your theory is valid, he would be?


I think he was used to create plans that were obsolete before they were drawn with consideration of what was learned by the Tacoma narrows bridge collapse.



Badly used. I actually have great sympathy for him because after Yamasaki overode the original steel core column design, Robertson got fully behind the concrete core as much as he could and faithfully saw the buildings completed. THEN, silverstein used his obsolete plans to deceive the nation in private, very interested support for FEMA's deception by silverstein. It really sucks. If I was him, I would feel like sh*t. Major, dynamic grief, angst. He's certainly, logically, seen threats against family members if he speaks up.

That is why I feel this unregistered post is actually him. He appreciates what I'm doing, wants to help but cannot. Takes a chance and makes an ambigous post on April fools day.

http://forum.physorg.com/index.php?showtopic=3108&view=findpost&p=78752

Leslie E. Robertson
Posted: Apr 1 2006, 06:33 PM

Christophera is correct in stating that the Twin Towers were constructed with a concrete core. Although in my original design the core was to be a steel framed one that decision was overridden by Minoru Yamasaki the architect.

That core should have resisted the airplane impacts AND the fires. I have said nothing for four and a half years but can remain silent no longer. My belief is that only explosives could have caused WTC 1 & WTC 2 to collapse the way they did on September 11, 2001.

Leslie E. Robertson
Director Leslie E. Robertson Associates, R.L.L.P. and lead engineer of the World Trade Center


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QUOTE (Christophera @ Jan 19 2009, 07:24 PM) *
"Christophera is correct in stating that the Twin Towers were constructed with a concrete core."

Leslie E. Robertson
Director Leslie E. Robertson Associates, R.L.L.P. and lead engineer of the World Trade Center[/i]

Whether this is Robertson or not, the pre 9/11 documentary evidence is on the side of there being a core.

The Nova special on why the WTC towers fell went out of its way to cover this up.

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QUOTE (2knives @ Feb 17 2009, 09:56 PM) *
Whether this is Robertson or not, the pre 9/11 documentary evidence is on the side of there being a core.

The Nova special on why the WTC towers fell went out of its way to cover this up.


I would imagine any documentary maker post 2003 or so would be aware of the technical controversy and avoid the core altogether except for sparse reference. The only reasearcher using FEMA structural data, this is the extent of it BTW, from

(IMG:http://algoxy.com/psych/psyimages/femacore.gif)

Is Frank Greening. He is sincere and actually tries to explain the act of setting enough explosives properly around the supposed steel core columns. He explains it with elevator shutdowns. Something needed in any case, and did happen on a large enough scale to set dotonators in the concrete core but not nearly enough to construct cutting charges around 47 steel box tube core columns adequate to enable free fall and all of the pieces disappearing from 9-11 images. Greening is silent when I ask him about how the cutting charges may have been set around interior box columns where 1/2 of the box is in the hallway ringing the core on each floor. No one else has even tried.

BTW, a new educational video has been produced and uploaded to youtube that uses parts of the newly identified video showing that east piece of the WTC 1 concrete core,

YouTube - North Tower - Concrete Core

Not sure who made it but I suspect someone viewing the BFN thread as they use all of the points I use and share a link to my site.

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