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Jan 6 2009, 04:54 PM
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Israel is engaged in, what I consider, genocide in slow motion in the Gaza Strip. They just want to be rid of the Palestinians - however.
The US government has been practically overtaken by Zionists or politicians sympathetic to the Zionist cause. Many of our "leaders" hold dual-citizenship. It appears that support of the Israeli-Zionist cause is a pre-condition for electablity. After a couple of decades of hard work, that's how much influence Israel now wields. The US media is, at the top, for the most part, run by Zionists. The illusion of a "free-press" is barely sustained - don't expect any fair or balanced news from the media. The banking cartel that runs the world is not Jewish - it is half Jewish. The Jewish part, the Rothschilds and the Warburgs, are based in England and Europe. The American half of the equation is far more convoluted ... the Rothschilds and the Warburgs have held on to their stock privately - the Rockefeller and Morgan (gentile) banks in the US though (JP MorganChase, Citibank) are publicly owned, so without a torturous exploration into the stockholding companies of those banks, it is impossible to say how "Jewish" they are or aren't. I continue to hold that it is more about money and less about religion ... and that Israel's influence over the US government is Israeli-driven. It may be partially banker-driven as well, I don't know, but, since I doubt that the banking families involved give a flying-hoot about the Jewish "cause", I assume their motivations are more material. If those motivations are deeper (more religious) in nature, then they are interested in the WHOLE REGION - from Gaza to Basra - for that is the ancient home of (as they perceive?) themselves and civilization itself. I'm going to jump around - don't expect any rhyme or reason - there is none. The Rothschilds resisted backing the Zionist movement at it's inception. As the first world war was raging Baron Rothschild suggested to Theodor Hertzel (founder of the Zionist movement) that he (Herzel) found his proposed Jewish state in Uganda. (!) They (the Rothschild family) were initially not very interested, Hertzel's ideas sounded "too jewish" to the Rothshilds - that's a quote. ... but they finally came around. Edmund Rothschild was the first to create settlements in Palestine, they were wine-making settlements, he was from the French House - winemakers. He (Edmund) fought to keep Hertzl's power in Palestine in check until his death. There were a couple of other motivating factors at work that drew the Rothschilds into Palestine, one was the mineral riches present in the Dead Sea - 3 TRILLION worth of magnesium and other metals. The Balfour Declaration did in fact promise a chunk of land to the Zionist movement THROUGH Lionel Rothschild, via a letter from Author Balfour, the British Foreign Secretary, in 1917. There is a good reason why this letter was addressed to Lionel Rothshild, the Turks (Ottoman Empire) who lost WWI, were heavily indebted to the Rothschilds. The Rothschilds, like most European Jews, are descended from Khazars - which was a huge empire which peaked a thousand years ago in the steppes north of the Caspian and Black seas. Many will tell you that these Jews have no blood-connection to Palestine. However, the northern tribes were allegedly carted off into northern Mesopotamia (now Syria), and most likely, given the strife that was going on at the time in that area, probably migrated north, through the Caucasus into the lands which would become Khazaria - which would help explain why the Empire of Khazaria converted en-mass to Judaeism. So, the argument that European Jews have no connection to Israel because they are Khazars, doesn't really hold water if you dig into the history. Then again, the Bible tended to exaggerate - there were never that many Jews in Palestine. And furthermore, the Palestinians (Philistines) were/are Semites - descended from Shem ... the Khazar Jews are mostly (by blood percentage) descended from Japeth, being of the Black Sea - Caspian Sea region - there had to be some mixing of blood over those hundreds of years ... so, anti-Jewish speech should really be labeled 'anti-Japethism' - no? But all of us European-American rooted people are, as per the Bible, Japithites too, so aren't we all the same? When you hear the word "anti-semite" spewed, know that the Palestinians are more correctly "Semites" than European based Jews. With the above moderating factors. So to summarize, up is down, Bush's grandfather helped finance Hitler, practically everything we have been told is "spin", the Palestinians are correctly Semites, the Jews are more correctly Japethites, the Rothschilds resisted supporting Hertzel and his Zionist movement, half of the banking families who "rule the world" are not Jewish, hence, the argument that it's all a "Jewish plot" leaves much to be desired. It's so funny to me. (Funny, but tragically serious.) People seem to have a hard time separating Judaeism from Zionism. I'm trying to look behind Zionism - to the root of where the line between Judaeism and Zionism is intentionally blurred. Do you not see how complicated this all is, and how many interpretations are possible? Only one thing is for certain - Israel wields undue and excessive influence in the US government. But we deserve it - as Jefferson said, the price of libery is eternal vigilance. America has not been vigilant. So, we have have a government and a media beside it bought and paid for by Israel, who receives all that cash back in foreign aid. "Good work if you can get it". Behold the fruits of your unwakefulness, America, children with their arms blown off in Gaza, a million civilians dead in Iraq - and who knows what horrors the use of depleted uranium in Iraq, or DIME weapons in Gaza, will result in. I just don't know what to say anymore. |
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Jan 20 2009, 03:22 PM
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Last year when Georgia invaded Ossetia, I noticed that the Georgian flag and the old flag of Jerusalem (Templar cross of St. George with four little crosses in each quadrant), which had been dug up and recommissioned after disuse during the Soviet era, were the same flag. At the time I happened to be looking at other flags and family crests, and reading an online book titled "Tracking Ladon-Gog and the Hebrew Rose". The "Rose" in this case is the Roseline, cleverly alluded to in the name Roslin (as in Roslin Castle) which the Templars apparently built in Scotland along with their pals the Sinclair family. Sinclair is an alteration of St. Clair as in the "Treaty of St. Clair sur Epte" of 911 (911 - !!!???), which granted Normandy to Rollo and his invading Vikings, and Rollo's descendents took the name St. Clair. One of them, William the Conqueror, took over England in 1066 (if you aren't familiar with this era in history), a very important event to say the least. Anyway, the Ladon-Gog book is, while difficult reading, fascinating, and among other things delves into the origins of various family crests and flags, and connections related to this elusive "rose-line".
One symbol that crops up alot when you are looking at families connected with the Templars is the cross of St. George (red and white theme), as well as a whole plethora of red and white crests featuring checks, chevrons, crosses, bars, etc. But there is another compimentary class of crests in a blue and white theme, some of them near duplicates of red-white themed crests. A good example would be the Hohen and Cohen crests, the former featuring red and white checks, the later blue and white checks - otherwise identical. The author of Ladon-Gog traces this blue and white configuration back through a Byzantine princess named Melissena and ultimately to her grandfather, Michael I Rangabe, who was the Holy Emperor of Byzantium for a short time in the 9th century. Here is something I put together that shows some of these (and others - I'll comment on their significance and how they are all connected.) (IMG:http://img217.imageshack.us/img217/6303/bluewhiteag3.jpg) In the bottom row you'll find Melusine. Melissena (a real person) is immortalised in a legend about a half-woman half-sea-serpent named Melusine, who wins the heart of a French noble and marries him. This is generally a Count of Lusignan, or Raymond de Vere, and first enters the literary history in the Roman de Melusine written in 1393 by Jean d'Arras. From a site about the Vere family (very wealthy, very influencial in Britain with roots in France): "The story is a mix of fiction and fact, commissioned by the Duke de Berry, a French noble who was brother to King Charles V, and uncle of King Charles VI. It was meant to be a family history and to uphold the proprietary claims to Lusignan and Anjou. In this story Melusine's mother was a Presine fairy who charmed Elinas, the king of Scotland. The result was their daughter Melusine. Half fairy and half princess, Melusine wandered over to the Continent and eventually met up with Rainfroi/Raymond in the forests Anjou. They met while he was out boar hunting. Overcome with her beauty, he took her hand in marriage, and many adventures ensued..." I note that her tail is described as being grey, blue and white. She is the mermaid on the Starbucks logo, and I laugh when I observe the logo changing over time - in its present form the resemblence to the mythical Melusine is almost impossible to catch (if you didn't know). In earlier versions it is quite obvious. Starbucks chairman Howard Shultz is a Zionist. There was an incriminating letter alleged to have been written by him that made the rounds on the web recently, that was a hoax (more disinfo-mind-f&*k stuff?), but, he did win the "Israel 50th Anniversary Tribute Award". Anyway, the Starbucks logo is Melusine. To follow what I'm gonna be talking about now, here's another thing I put together - I recommend opening up windows for the blue and white crest image and this family-tree image, while reading. Otherwise, its just too hard to follow. (IMG:http://img519.imageshack.us/img519/4908/familieszk0.jpg) BTW red denotes Eastern blood, blue represents Viking/Goth blood, purple - a mix. (Roughly speaking.) There is very little written that I could find about Melissena's grandfather Michael Rangabe, but Ladon-Gog author John claims he has found evidence linking him to the Kagans of Khazaria (Kagan meant King - it also happens to be the name of the family which founded of the neoconservative movement). His wife Procopia might also have had some Khazar blood in her, and definitely some from the Mamikonids, longtime rulers of Armenia. Poking around the genealogies of some of these families of Byzantine Emperors of that period, which ushered in a golden age in the east, I found many Armenian and Khazar pedigrees. This is a good site for anyone who enjoys tracing families btw. http://fabpedigree.com/ Maybe you are guessing where this is going, so I'll spell out what you may have guessed, and try to explain that that's not really where I'm headed. (Does that make any sense!??) All through this thread I keep alluding to two ancient branches - I'm not sure if they should actually be considered blood-lines of royalty, or just cultural branches (the "culture" in question being a "conquering" culture) - probably a mix of the two is a good way to think of it, even royal blood-lines are not linear, and when they are broken a family of the identical ruling culture usually takes its place. I described these branches as "Egyptian" and "Gogi" - the Gogi branch pooling around the Black Sea, and the Egyptian branch leading from Egypt to both Greece and the Levant (Israel/Phoenicia). The bible talks about a migration of Isralites from Egypt to the Levant, and Greek myth describes another migration - represented by the brothers Cadmus and Phoenix. Both landed in Phoenica from Egypt, Cadmus continuing on to Greece where he founded Thebes (note that there was a city in Egypt called Thebes as well). For the record, the Phoenicians almost certainly didn't derive simply from Egypt since there is a direct continuum between Sumer-Akkad-Phoenicia - a combination of Egyptian and Mesopotamian influences probably produced the Phoenicians. Also for the record, the Greek myths almost certainly didn't describe actual people, but the migrations/battles/alliances of groups. Both of these "branches" would have origins in Sumer, although it should be obvious that the "Gogi" peoples who occupied the Black Sea region in ancient times didn't just walk there from Sumer, but represented a mix of peoples from Asia north of there and Mesopotamia to the south. Ancient burial sites confirm this somewhat. The question is, who were those peoples, associated with Apollo and Artemis in the Greek myths, who lost to the Greeks at the battle of Troy, who populated Scythia just north of the Black and Caspian seas, a land which would later become Khazaria, and who provided the stock of the Vikings and the Goths who would conquer Rome and Europe? I contend that they were, to some large degree, Hebrew, though I might have a slightly squewed impression of what "Hebrew" means. In biblical terms Hebrews were people descended from Eber, a great-great (X-n) grandson of Shem, one of the three sons of Noah. We know that the vast majority of Jews in Israel and Europe are descended from Khazars, who are thought (in biblical terms) to be descendents of Japheth, another of Noah's sons. Try and tell a Jew who's anscestors lived in Poland, or Germany, or anywhere else in Eastern Europe ... that they aren't Hebrew (!). My point is they are as Hebrew as many of the peoples which populated ancient Armenia, or the Caucasus, or Scythia, forget about who came from Shem and who came from Japheth. Among the sons of the Egyptian princess Scota by a Scythian king (the Melisians) who invaded Ireland over two thousand years ago, one was named Heber - usually only three of these sons are mentioned. Of the three tribes listed as the Black Sea ancestors of the Vikings, one is Erul. The "Hebrew" connection might not be evident at first, but the name evokes Heracles, a Greek version of Samson - also, another VIking ancestral tribe was the Vanir, from Lake Van in Armenia. Then there's Tacitus. who describes 3 tribes as the descendents of the Germanic "Manus" (the anscestor of man), one of which is Herminones. Why always three? Three Viking ancestor tribes, three sons of Scota, three sons of Noah, three descendents of Mani ... but put that aside and ... wait a minute, we can all see the connection in the name "Eber", but Herminones doesn't begin to resemble "Hebrew". No, it doesn't, it resembles Hermes. From John, author of Ladon-Gog: "Update June 2006 -- I'm much "smarter" now to the illustrations set forth by the myth wizards. Knowing now that "Aphrodite" was code for "Abiru," and that Hermes was code for Armenia, I think the secret meaning of the two snakes (of the caduceus) is a Hebrew-Aryan mix. Only one of the two snakes was depicted as male, logically (I don't know which yet), and the idea of a man being able to turn into a woman (or vice versa) had to do with the utter fusing of the Hebrews with Aryans..." There's alot in that, folks. I already went into the significance of Mt. Hermon a little bit earlier in the thread http://pilotsfor911truth.org/forum//index....&p=10762794 I'll just add that "John" and I differ a bit in that I percieve Herme's staff of Caduceus as representing the Egyptian and Gogi branches mixing in the Greek theatre and in Armenia, while he perceives it as representing a mix of Arian and Hebrew. In a way, the two perspectives are kinda the same. The salient point here which brings me back to the line of questioning I started all this with, is that Hermes evokes the name Armenia, which John (Ladon-Gog author) also poinsts out ... in fact, Cadmus' wife was named Harmonia - an even closer match - and that in light of the mixing of the two branches, Armenia, which lied between the Black Sea region and the Levant, was a melting pot, a buffer zone - which is why I think Armenia/Harmonia became the basis of our word for peaceful co-existence ... Harmony (!!!). Since figuring this out I've never been able to walk into a doctors office without looking with amazement at the staff of Caduceus, entwined by two snakes, on the door. (IMG:http://img125.imageshack.us/img125/7500/14026896if9.jpg) (The dragon represented both royalty and life-giving powers way back then, which is why you find dragons and snakes all over the place in Greek and medieval myths, and why the medical profession adopted the staff of Caduceus.) Don't forget folks, that the coat of arms of the City of London is the cross of St. George (the Templar flag) flanked by two dragons. (IMG:http://img293.imageshack.us/img293/7012/images1xl6.jpg) So, hopefully I've rambled on enough that you can GET that the "royalty" of our world, and I mean that in a corporate sense as well as a political sense, has its roots in a merging of Hebrew and Aryan (Ladon-God "John's way of describing it), Egyptian and Gogi (the rulers of Europe a thousand years ago were mostly Gogi-descended, hence the high-importance placed on the Egyptian side and hence the pyramid found in places like the dollar bill and the Israeli Supreme Court, or the placement of Egyptian Obelisk "penises" in Washington DC and the City of London), East and West, heck, call it whatever you like, any word you want to make up is probably better than the squewed vernacular which has been played with intentionally to prevent people from talking intelligently about any of this. Recently Joe Biden said, unapologetically, "I'm a Zionist - you don't have to be Jewish to be a Zionist". Why!?? Joe Biden doesn't appear to me to be one of those "have to rebuild the Temple of Solomon so that the Messiah can come back and save the righteous while destroying the world" rapture-believing nut-jobs. (!!!???) Think about it. It makes no sense, he's not saying "I have to support Israel because AIPAC is breathing down my neck 24-7". He's saying, I'm not a nut, I'm not Jewish, and I'm a Zionist. The "why" is, people like Biden are members of the elite culture - they don't think like you and I. Support of Israel is implicit. I am trying to explain why - maybe I can, maybe I can't. Anyway, this mixing area between "Aryan and Hebrew", "Egyptian and Gogi", "East and West" is critical, and is why Melissena was immortalized in myth - she was the first (excepting the possible but improbable mixing between Mary of Magdalene and the Merovingians, and the less improbable mixing of the Makhir family with Frank nobility) marriage linking East and West. Not much is known about her husband Inger, but he was a Viking - Varangian Rus to be exact, like the people who ruled Russia from Kiev from about the same period. That brings me to Margaret Queen of Scotland, but before I dive into that I need to note that there is another real-life candidate for the mythical Melusine. Melisende, the daughter of the Crusader and king of Jerusalem Baldwin II, might not be as likely a candidate as the Rangabe Melissena, but she also represents a merging of East and West, in fact, her mother was Moraphia of ARMENIA. I about fell off my chair when I figured out that among her ancestors was the house of Bagratun. Here's a quote from Saakashvili, the current president of Georgia: “My grandmother was also a Bagrationi. I say it for people, who want to restore the monarchy. It would be even better because we would avoid the need for elections and would decide everything based on family traditions,” - To Georgian reporters in Finland, October 12, 2007. That family has been running Georgia for a millenium - excepting the Soviet period. Armenia I don't know much about, but I know it was as volitile as it was large - Jewish, Christian and Gnostic (Manichaean & Paulician) forces collided there like in no other place. Furthermore, the "lost" tribes of Israel most likely passed through Armenia in their eventual migration into the Caucasus and Scythia. Here's an article about Jews in Armenia I thought was good - gives some detailed information about the transportation of Jews from Israel into that area... http://www.jewishencyclopedia.com/view.jsp...87&letter=A And even Wikipedia admits that the Jewish community in Georgia is one of the oldest in the world: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_th...orgia_(country) So when you read on sites like WhatReallyHappened (vehemently anti-Zionist) that Ashkenazi Jews (descended from Khazars) have no blood connection to Israel, he is only revealing half of the story. In fact, Scythia (later Khazaria) is where the Israelites went. Just to muck up your head some more, I'll point out that the Israelites and the Jews weren't exactly the same people - the Israelites lived in the north - they were pagan (particularly the northernmost tribes like Dan and Naphtali), and, according to the Bible, were punished for their pagan ways by being carried off. People think of the Israelites being relocated to Babylon, but many apparently found their way into Armenia, the Caucasus, and Scythia. The word Judaism of course derives from Judah, which was separate and in the south. People identify "Hebrew" with Judaism, but in fact they should be thought of as distinct from one another IMO (Jews being a religious sect within the Hebrew lineage as were the Kabbalist ancestors of the Templars)! Yes, it's messy and confusing, and that's my point. I read that the oldest Jewish communities in Georgia and the Ashkenazi communities there are quite different in their traditions, suggesting different waves of migration. ... Later, in around the 9th century (I think), Khazaria converted en-masse to Judaism, and within a century or two after that the kingdom collapsed. I won't go into how or why it collapsed, because I honestly don't know and can't get a straight answer from sources on the web .... but coinciding with its collapse, there was a migration from Khazaria by Kabar (a sect of Khazars) and Magyar tribes led by princes known as the Arpads (who claimed decendency from Attila the Hun) into Hungary. The "Hun" in Hungary comes from these "Huns" of course. They ruled the roost for a time, then there was a short period when Italians ran Hungary, then the "Arpads" took back the throne - and this is (exactly) when the English hier Edward, who had been hiding in in Kiev, moves to Hungary, and has a daughter Margaret. When she is about 12 the Danes who took over England under Canute and ruled for a time finally leave, and Edward, Margaret, her mother Agatha, George the son of the Hungarian king Andrew, George's son Maurice (if he was born by then?) and Bartholemew - also of uncertain royal Hungarian blood , all moved from Budhapest to Britain ... Margaret then married Malcom III of Scotland, and her son became the next king of Scotland while her daughter Matilda married king Henry I. I find it incredibly interesting that the Hungarian royals central to this story are Andrew and George, and that the flags of England and Scotland, configured around this period, are based on the crosses of St. Andrew and St. George - and that Margaret's Hungarian (Khazar/Hun) lineage is never talked about. And, I literally fell off my chair when I saw Michael Rangabe's white cross on blue hovering over St. Margaret's head on a stained glass window in the church in Edinburgh bearing her name. And call it a coincidence ....... but the original leader of the Zionist movement, Theodor Hertzl, was born in Budhapest. (IMG:http://pilotsfor911truth.org/forum/style_emoticons/default/blink.gif) Another important figure is Andrew's niece, Sophia. Another big East-West marriage event ... in fact, she married twice. One marriage produced the Wittelsbachs, who ran Bavaria for a period, and if you look at the family crest and the flag of Bavaria you can see that they are essentially the same - blue and white diamonds. There were two Wittelsbach Holy Roman Emperors. Albert "the Bear", also descended from Sophia, was another big figure. I think (I'm struggling to remember and too lazy to look it up) he unified the Germanic lands in the area around Brandenburg. I listed a line of Arpad (Hungarian) rulers starting with Sophia's brother Geza I which lead to a Johanna von Bayern-Staubing. I don't know who this Johanna is, and I don't think it's so important. I included this lineage because it resembles so many others, which show how the Arpad (Hun) rulers of Hungary spread from there first into Bohemia and then Bavaria. Bavaria BTW is written in German as Bayern. Looks like Bayer (aspirin, Nazi gas makers). Or Bauer - the original family name of the Rothschilds. I included the Bayer family crest in my jpeg - again, blue and white theme. Bauer, Bayer, Bayern, all these names derive from the same meaning and suggest common roots ... the Scottish branch of the Bauer family is Bower - as in, Bow and Arrow. That's why the Rothshild bank logo sports 5 arrows in a bundle. It's a Hun fable - the mother tells her 5 warring sons that one arrow can easily be snapped, but 5 in a bundle can never be broken. The original 5 famous Rothschild (Bauer) sons (Nathan, Karl, Salomon, James, Amshel) are referred to to this day as the "5 arrows". Simply put (actually it's not so simple, it's actually a Mongol legend, but before there were Mongol's - and the Huns and Mongols most likely shared roots ...it's too complicated, you get my drift, so never mind) it's a "Hun" legend. Or call them Kazars if you like. Whatever, this was a definite migration from Khazaria through Hungary to Bavaria, resulting in a flurry of "Gnostic" activity in that area in the later middle ages - for one, the Rosicrucians officially eminated from the area - the (real) "Illuminati" were busted there too. So how do these other blue and white crested families fit into this? The Leslie clan are very wealthy and influential in Scotland - they descend from Bartholomew, of uncertain pedigree [see post below re: uncertain connection to Pollak clan] who accompanied Margaret to Scotland. The Drummonds are descended from king Andrew of Hungary, they are incredibly wealthy and their bank was absorbed into the Royal Bank of Scotland. They are related to the British royal family. I already mentioned that Cohen derives from Kagan. The Bruces are legendary, Robert the Bruce is one of the main characters in Mel Gibson's flawed but fun "Braveheart" ... they came from France, and the first Bruce (actually Brusse) of note descends from Rognvald, who married the sister of Yaroslav, who sheltered Margaret's father Edward in Kiev before he moved to Hungary, AND is descended from Melissena to boot. Don't miss on that genealogy jpeg that the Brusses married in with the St Clair/Sinclair family a mere two generations after Rognvald Brusse's marraige to Yaroslav's sister (!). I included the Bouillon crest amoung the blue & white-themed crests because it's the same as the cross used by Michael Rangabe, only with red instead of blue. Geoffrey de Bouillon was the leader of the 1st crusade, along with his brothers Baldwin and Eustace (shown on genealogy tree). The three-tipped "fleur-de-lis" looking thing at the ends of the arms of the cross on both the Rangabe and Bouillon crests represent the 12 houses of the zodiac, grouped into 4 houses of 3 which apparently represent the elements or the seasons. The crest of Languedoc/Toulouse (Cathar country) used a cross which also shows this pagan grouping of 12 into 4 groups of three. I'm getting tired - I can't tell if I've successfully made my case or not. Feedback??? Hopefully I can add some tidbits that strenthen the connections later as I remember them. |
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Since figuring this out I've never been able to walk into a doctors office without looking with amazement at the staff of Caduceus, entwined by two snakes, on the door. (IMG:http://img125.imageshack.us/img125/7500/14026896if9.jpg) (The dragon represented both royalty and life-giving powers way back then, which is why you find dragons and snakes all over the place in Greek and medieval myths, and why the medical profession adopted the staff of Caduceus.) The "classical" Hippocratic Oath sworn by doctors is quite interesting in this context. http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/nova/doctors/oath_classical.html Hippocratic Oath—Classical Version I swear by Apollo Physician and Asclepius and Hygieia and Panaceia and all the gods and goddesses, making them my witnesses, that I will fulfil according to my ability and judgment this oath and this covenant: To hold him who has taught me this art as equal to my parents and to live my life in partnership with him, and if he is in need of money to give him a share of mine, and to regard his offspring as equal to my brothers in male lineage and to teach them this art - if they desire to learn it - without fee and covenant; to give a share of precepts and oral instruction and all the other learning to my sons and to the sons of him who has instructed me and to pupils who have signed the covenant and have taken an oath according to the medical law, but no one else. I will apply dietetic measures for the benefit of the sick according to my ability and judgment; I will keep them from harm and injustice. I will neither give a deadly drug to anybody who asked for it, nor will I make a suggestion to this effect. Similarly I will not give to a woman an abortive remedy. In purity and holiness I will guard my life and my art. I will not use the knife, not even on sufferers from stone, but will withdraw in favor of such men as are engaged in this work. Whatever houses I may visit, I will come for the benefit of the sick, remaining free of all intentional injustice, of all mischief and in particular of sexual relations with both female and male persons, be they free or slaves. What I may see or hear in the course of the treatment or even outside of the treatment in regard to the life of men, which on no account one must spread abroad, I will keep to myself, holding such things shameful to be spoken about. If I fulfil this oath and do not violate it, may it be granted to me to enjoy life and art, being honored with fame among all men for all time to come; if I transgress it and swear falsely, may the opposite of all this be my lot. Translation from the Greek by Ludwig Edelstein. From The Hippocratic Oath: Text, Translation, and Interpretation, by Ludwig Edelstein. Baltimore: Johns Hopkins Press, 1943. ---------------------------- http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hippocratic_Oath |
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Empressive early morning ... Jan 9 2009, 02:15 AM
dMole QUOTE (Sanders @ Jan 6 2009, 01:54 PM) So... Jan 9 2009, 02:27 AM
Timothy Osman IMO Zionism had nothing to do with religion apart ... Jan 10 2009, 08:05 AM
Quest QUOTE (Timothy Osman @ Jan 10 2009, 01:05... Jan 10 2009, 03:44 PM
Quest One question that has not yet been raised is how e... Jan 10 2009, 09:33 PM
albertchampion i don't know as much about freemasonry as i wo... Jan 10 2009, 11:23 PM
Quest Albert wrote...
QUOTE for the sake of brevity, i ... Jan 11 2009, 12:52 PM
dMole QUOTE (albertchampion @ Jan 10 2009, 08:2... Jan 12 2009, 08:39 PM
dMole QUOTE (dMole @ Jan 12 2009, 05:39 PM) NAS... Jan 12 2009, 09:03 PM
cheapchippy If Zionists have infiltrated the US Govt. then I s... Jan 11 2009, 04:27 AM
dMole 2 words:
Rahm Emanuel. Jan 11 2009, 05:12 AM
dMole 2 more:
Gaza genocide. Jan 11 2009, 05:15 AM
Skepticon Thanks for censoring me again. Jan 11 2009, 09:57 AM
dMole QUOTE (Skepticon @ Jan 11 2009, 06:57 AM)... Jan 12 2009, 07:50 PM
Sanders QUOTE (dMole @ Jan 16 2009, 05:50 PM) On ... Jan 12 2009, 07:59 PM
dMole QUOTE (Sanders @ Jan 12 2009, 04:59 PM) W... Jan 12 2009, 08:21 PM
Quest Now have a look at the following...
MTV Wishes Yo... Jan 11 2009, 01:00 PM
Timothy Osman QUOTE On December 21, 2003 thirteen Sayeret Matkal... Jan 13 2009, 06:38 AM
dMole Well it was the Wiki after all TO, although I have... Jan 13 2009, 11:26 AM
dMole I recall there being an S&B 322 Bushite ... Jan 13 2009, 11:35 AM
albertchampion tolkein, in one aspect of his novels, was relating... Jan 14 2009, 04:17 AM
Timothy Osman Not that it probably matters but how many more sle... Jan 14 2009, 09:27 PM
dMole QUOTE (Timothy Osman @ Jan 14 2009, 06:27... Jan 14 2009, 11:54 PM
Quest WHAT'S BEHIND FREEMASONRY?
http://bloodonthe... Jan 14 2009, 10:29 PM
Quest http://www.freemasonrywatch.org/sixpointedstar.htm... Jan 14 2009, 10:48 PM
Timothy Osman Thanks Dmole. She looks like a future Secretary of... Jan 15 2009, 06:41 AM
Sanders QUOTE (Timothy Osman @ Jan 19 2009, 05:41... Jan 15 2009, 10:32 AM
Sanders Lots of things have been mentioned in this thread,... Jan 15 2009, 12:56 PM
dMole QUOTE Gog and Magog... Frankly, I'm a bit sho... Jan 15 2009, 04:00 PM
dMole Some "random" links (or are they? )
R... Jan 15 2009, 06:47 PM
Sanders Let me state that I'm not trying to demonize ... Jan 15 2009, 07:08 PM
Quest QUOTE (Sanders @ Jan 16 2009, 12:08 AM) L... Jan 15 2009, 09:33 PM
dMole I look more toward this for the "Founding Fat... Jan 15 2009, 08:34 PM
Sanders QUOTE (dMole @ Jan 19 2009, 06:34 PM) I l... Jan 16 2009, 01:23 AM
dMole QUOTE (Sanders @ Jan 15 2009, 10:23 PM) Y... Jan 19 2009, 11:51 PM
Sanders QUOTE (dMole @ Jan 23 2009, 10:51 PM) Goo... Jan 20 2009, 03:05 AM
Quest The 9/11 Occult New World Order - Shift from Ridic... Jan 18 2009, 02:12 PM
Sanders With what limited experience I have with putting t... Jan 18 2009, 04:42 PM
Quest QUOTE (Sanders @ Jan 18 2009, 08:42 PM) W... Jan 18 2009, 06:19 PM
Sanders No reason to delete it, Quest, I see no problem le... Jan 19 2009, 10:08 PM
dMole Well, first here is the "official" versi... Jan 20 2009, 03:56 AM
Sanders From dMole's links ... this is a good page I t... Jan 20 2009, 09:38 AM
Sanders I didn't include Bartholomew in my little fami... Jan 21 2009, 05:40 AM
Sanders The Drummond and Leslie clans might be unfamiliar ... Jan 21 2009, 11:04 PM
albertchampion i am dumbstruck by your interest in genealogy. the... Jan 22 2009, 12:37 AM
Sanders QUOTE (albertchampion @ Jan 25 2009, 11:3... Jan 22 2009, 02:42 AM
lunk same structure
Notice any similarity?
How lon... Jan 22 2009, 02:08 PM
dMole Sweet DNA image lunk! I've seen that post... Jan 22 2009, 07:20 PM
Sanders QUOTE (lunk @ Jan 26 2009, 07:00 PM) ... Jan 23 2009, 12:18 AM
dMole QUOTE (Sanders @ Jan 22 2009, 09:18 PM) T... Jan 27 2009, 01:51 PM
Sanders QUOTE (dMole @ Jan 31 2009, 12:51 PM) ...... Jan 27 2009, 02:23 PM
lunk In-line breeding, maintains the traits,
but weake... Jan 22 2009, 09:00 PM
lunk Sanders, have you checked out Alan Watt?
http://... Jan 23 2009, 01:25 AM
Sanders QUOTE (lunk @ Jan 26 2009, 11:25 PM) Sand... Jan 23 2009, 04:14 AM
albertchampion or how about this from lundberg on relationships. ... Jan 23 2009, 03:06 AM
albertchampion more evidence of a lizard race infesting this plan... Jan 23 2009, 03:23 AM
Sanders An oath to not give out deadly drugs or take up th... Jan 23 2009, 04:58 AM
lunk What if one discovers that their sworn oath
is op... Jan 23 2009, 07:57 AM
Timothy Osman QUOTE I had to take an oath once,
before I was old... Jan 24 2009, 08:38 PM
Timothy Osman Back on topic and back onto these Amalekites. It s... Jan 25 2009, 09:15 PM
lunk QUOTE for there is no compassion in the seed of Am... Jan 26 2009, 07:44 AM
dMole Back to Iraq/ME, (and it's from the Wiki, but ... Jan 29 2009, 05:42 AM
albertchampion i recommended these two sites some time ago on a p... Jan 29 2009, 08:48 PM
Sanders CORRECTION
In an earlier post I stated that the ... Feb 7 2009, 01:59 PM
albertchampion and i never thought that i would read this individ... Feb 10 2009, 02:20 AM
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