Jan 6 2009, 04:54 PM
Joined: 13-September 06
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Israel is engaged in, what I consider, genocide in slow motion in the Gaza Strip. They just want to be rid of the Palestinians - however.
The US government has been practically overtaken by Zionists or politicians sympathetic to the Zionist cause. Many of our "leaders" hold dual-citizenship. It appears that support of the Israeli-Zionist cause is a pre-condition for electablity. After a couple of decades of hard work, that's how much influence Israel now wields.
The US media is, at the top, for the most part, run by Zionists. The illusion of a "free-press" is barely sustained - don't expect any fair or balanced news from the media.
The banking cartel that runs the world is not Jewish - it is half Jewish. The Jewish part, the Rothschilds and the Warburgs, are based in England and Europe. The American half of the equation is far more convoluted ... the Rothschilds and the Warburgs have held on to their stock privately - the Rockefeller and Morgan (gentile) banks in the US though (JP MorganChase, Citibank) are publicly owned, so without a torturous exploration into the stockholding companies of those banks, it is impossible to say how "Jewish" they are or aren't.
I continue to hold that it is more about money and less about religion ... and that Israel's influence over the US government is Israeli-driven. It may be partially banker-driven as well, I don't know, but, since I doubt that the banking families involved give a flying-hoot about the Jewish "cause", I assume their motivations are more material. If those motivations are deeper (more religious) in nature, then they are interested in the WHOLE REGION - from Gaza to Basra - for that is the ancient home of (as they perceive?) themselves and civilization itself.
I'm going to jump around - don't expect any rhyme or reason - there is none.
The Rothschilds resisted backing the Zionist movement at it's inception. As the first world war was raging Baron Rothschild suggested to Theodor Hertzel (founder of the Zionist movement) that he (Herzel) found his proposed Jewish state in Uganda. (!) They (the Rothschild family) were initially not very interested, Hertzel's ideas sounded "too jewish" to the Rothshilds - that's a quote. ... but they finally came around.
Edmund Rothschild was the first to create settlements in Palestine, they were wine-making settlements, he was from the French House - winemakers. He (Edmund) fought to keep Hertzl's power in Palestine in check until his death. There were a couple of other motivating factors at work that drew the Rothschilds into Palestine, one was the mineral riches present in the Dead Sea - 3 TRILLION worth of magnesium and other metals.
The Balfour Declaration did in fact promise a chunk of land to the Zionist movement THROUGH Lionel Rothschild, via a letter from Author Balfour, the British Foreign Secretary, in 1917. There is a good reason why this letter was addressed to Lionel Rothshild, the Turks (Ottoman Empire) who lost WWI, were heavily indebted to the Rothschilds.
The Rothschilds, like most European Jews, are descended from Khazars - which was a huge empire which peaked a thousand years ago in the steppes north of the Caspian and Black seas. Many will tell you that these Jews have no blood-connection to Palestine.
However, the northern tribes were allegedly carted off into northern Mesopotamia (now Syria), and most likely, given the strife that was going on at the time in that area, probably migrated north, through the Caucasus into the lands which would become Khazaria - which would help explain why the Empire of Khazaria converted en-mass to Judaeism.
So, the argument that European Jews have no connection to Israel because they are Khazars, doesn't really hold water if you dig into the history.
Then again, the Bible tended to exaggerate - there were never that many Jews in Palestine. And furthermore, the Palestinians (Philistines) were/are Semites - descended from Shem ... the Khazar Jews are mostly (by blood percentage) descended from Japeth, being of the Black Sea - Caspian Sea region - there had to be some mixing of blood over those hundreds of years ... so, anti-Jewish speech should really be labeled 'anti-Japethism' - no? But all of us European-American rooted people are, as per the Bible, Japithites too, so aren't we all the same?
When you hear the word "anti-semite" spewed, know that the Palestinians are more correctly "Semites" than European based Jews. With the above moderating factors.
So to summarize, up is down, Bush's grandfather helped finance Hitler, practically everything we have been told is "spin", the Palestinians are correctly Semites, the Jews are more correctly Japethites, the Rothschilds resisted supporting Hertzel and his Zionist movement, half of the banking families who "rule the world" are not Jewish, hence, the argument that it's all a "Jewish plot" leaves much to be desired.
It's so funny to me. (Funny, but tragically serious.) People seem to have a hard time separating Judaeism from Zionism. I'm trying to look behind Zionism - to the root of where the line between Judaeism and Zionism is intentionally blurred.
Do you not see how complicated this all is, and how many interpretations are possible?
Only one thing is for certain - Israel wields undue and excessive influence in the US government. But we deserve it - as Jefferson said, the price of libery is eternal vigilance. America has not been vigilant.
So, we have have a government and a media beside it bought and paid for by Israel, who receives all that cash back in foreign aid.
"Good work if you can get it".
Behold the fruits of your unwakefulness, America, children with their arms blown off in Gaza, a million civilians dead in Iraq - and who knows what horrors the use of depleted uranium in Iraq, or DIME weapons in Gaza, will result in.
I just don't know what to say anymore.
Jan 29 2009, 05:42 AM
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Joined: 2-October 07
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Back to Iraq/ME, (and it's from the Wiki, but it is consistent with some other sources I've seen elsewhere before):
On Saladin (or perhaps Aladdin of Disney fame- hmmm....):
Saladin or Yūsuf Ṣalāḥ ad-Dīn ibn Ayyūb was born in Tikrit, Iraq. His family was of Kurdish background and ancestry, and had originated from the city of Dvin, in Medieval Armenia. His father, Najm ad-Dīn Ayyūb, was banished from Tikrit and moved with his family to Mosul, where he met Imād ad-Din Zengi, the Turkish atabeg of Mosul and the founder of the Zengid dynasty, who was leading Muslim forces against the Crusaders in Edessa. In 1139 Imād ad-Din Zengi appointed Najm ad-Din as the commander of his fortress in Baalbek. After the death of Imād ad-Din Zengi in 1146, his son, Nūr ad-Dīn, became the regent of Mosul. Saladin received his name from Nūr ad-Dīn and was sent to Damascus to complete his education. Several sources claim that during his studies he was more interested in religion than joining the military. Another factor which may have affected his interest in religion was that during the First Crusade, Jerusalem was taken in a surprise attack by the Christians.
Saladin, King of Egypt from a 15th century illuminated manuscript; the globus in his left hand is a European symbol of kingly power.
His career in the military began when his uncle Asad al-Dīn Shīrkūh, or simply named Shirkuh, started training him. Shirkuh was an important military commander under the emir Nūr al-Dīn, who was the son and successor of Zangī. During three military expeditions led by Shīrkūh into Egypt to prevent its falling to the Latin Christian Crusaders who already ruled Jerusalem. Amalric I, the king of Jerusalem; Shāwar, the powerful vizier of the Egyptian Fatimid caliph; and Shīrkūh formed a struggle. After Shīrkūh's death and after ordering Shāwar's assassination, Saladin, in 1169 was appointed both commander of the Syrian troops in Egypt and vizier of the Fatimid caliph there. Saladin was only 31 when he received the position in the military and tried to finish much of his uncle's work. His relatively quick rise to power was due to the fact he had come from Kurdish cultural background and is cited as having many talents including being an effective and efficient military leader. He became from then onwards a Sultan of Egypt and his clear demonstration of being an efficient leader quickly built up his reputation as a great leader. Although he received the title of king, many referred to him as the Sultan of Egypt. The founding of the Ayyubid dynasty and the restoration of Sunni Islam in Egypt are credited to Saladin. He expanded his territory westward in the Maghreb and when his uncle was sent up the Nile to pacify some resistance of the former Fatimid supporters, he continued on down the Red Sea to conquer Yemen.
Now as a strange, synchronistic link from all the Salahudin/"Aladdin" business:
EDIT: This might be interesting to Sanders (about the Multinational Force in Iraq [MNF-I]):
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