Military Testimony Of Huge Secondary Explosion 20 Min After Pentagon Hit, Member of Old Guard at Ft. Myer, VA wants answers Options

[911analyzer]

9/11 truth. The Pentagon

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S_rXqn_RrfY

Testimony from a former military man in the "Old Guard" in Ft. Myer, VA, 1 mile from the Pentagon. He tells his story of what he witnessed on 9/11/01, and a huge, secondary explosion and blast wave that struck his building.

Whoa. Now what the heck is this. I just discovered this, and it was just posted June 21, 2009.

He is seeking answers from anyone who can tell him what this huge explosion and blast wave was, which he compares as big as 3000 pounds of explosives.

Now didn't April Gallop say something similar? Could this have been the explosion that caused the roof collapse?

So what could this be, and where does he get the idea that this explosion indeed came from the Pentagon?

I dunno, but this sounds like a good witness to interview (Hello, Craig?). And notice he says that he believed the official story until he saw the evidence of nano thermite!

This post has been edited by dMole: Jun 21 2009, 08:45 PM

Reason for edit: Added video embed codes

[paranoia]

i can confirm that there was a MASSIVE 2nd explosion that happened around 10:08am that day and there is video of at least 2 people who heard & felt it.

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=2912944806728436469
http://video.google.nl/videoplay?docid=575...10098&hl=nl

i personally felt it firsthand because i lived near there & i remember being freaked out. whatever this 2nd explosion was, it shook everything in my house, even though i lived over a mile from the pentagon. the first explosion, u know the one from when the plane supposedly hit the building, that boom did not have the strength of this second explosion, because i did not feel it (the "impact" explosion) a mile away. but the second boom was massive, the earth rumbled when it happened. i didnt feel anything between 9:30 and 10am, at 10:10 (actually my watch at the time said 10:08) a concussion shook my house. i was on the phone with a friend at the time, and he was in a car stuck near the 8A washington blvd exit (395north), and he too felt and heard the explosion. u can search back thru this forum, if the page still exists, i made mention of this second explosion awhile back, when another piece of archival footage was linked to, where a lady construction worker made mention of the massive explosion around the (10:10) time in question:

http://video.google.nl/videoplay?docid=575...10098&hl=nl

to this day i have wondered what it was because it was so massive, i have only felt a concussion like that one other time in my life, when a massive amount of tnt levelled a building in tehran at a meeting of government officials.

of course i wasnt at the immediate scene (at the pentagon), so i cant say that this 10:10 explosion happened outside or had any visible fireball to the crowd (like the fox5 reporter from the above clip). but my guess is it was deep inside the pentagon somewhere and out of view. the reporter didnt say she saw it, she said she heard it. if u could obtain an authentic seismic report for that day, im 100 percent positive that this 10:10 explosion would be the tallest spike on that graph. i have no idea what it was, but it was really huge (i cant stress that enough).



the following are some other sources quoting those who are familiar with or heard and felt this "second" explosion:

http://memory.loc.gov/ammem/collections/91...ecordingI1.html
http://tinyurl.com/kod3m8
http://memory.loc.gov/service/afc/afc2001015/sr/sr372a01.mp3 (actual audio link)

-at minute 29:01 begins speaking of 2nd explosion reaching and being felt intensely, even miles away





http://freedom4um.com/cgi-bin/readart.cgi?...39&Trace=on
(POST #40 - im still looking for original source/cite)

PLANE CRASHES INTO PENTAGON IN TERROR ATTACK
United Press International; 9/12/2001
United Press International
09-12-2001

WASHINGTON, Sep 11, 2001 (United Press International via COMTEX) -- The nation's top military officer declared Tuesday that the military is ready to take action against the terrorists that planned and carried out a series of attacks on the United States, including one on the Pentagon that collapsed part of its west wall, killed dozens and left the building in flames.

At 10:09 a.m. there was a secondary explosion, which rocked the entire parking lot area. Fire officials speculated it was caused by additional explosives in the aircraft.

http://history.amedd.army.mil/memoirs/sold.../responding.pdf

I had just walked a short distance, and again, most of the people were coming toward me because they were exiting the Pentagon, and then I heard another explosion. I heard another loud boom. No one has really explained to me exactly what that noise was. Some people said later maybe it was some fuel or one of these vehicles, something around the original crash site that blew up. No one has ever confirmed that with me. Other people said it was a sonic boom from the fighters that were flying over the Pentagon, but as soon as that noise happened, it was incredible what happened in the A corridor. People instantly froze in position and then they turned around and started running back away from the exit. When people started running, I shouted, “Slow down. Slow down,” because I was afraid somebody was going to get trampled. But people were sofrightened and panicky then.

[lunk]

I'm thinking about how they put out oil rig fires with dynamite.

Perhaps they needed to have two explosions, one for the fire ball, when the plane flew by, and another, high explosive, for the demolition of the building.

perhaps if they were blown off at the same time the high explosives may have blown out or prevented the fireball from happening.

[paranoia]

remember what i said about seismic data confirming the biggest explosion/concussion of that day (around 10:08 on my watch/clock at the time)? i found a site which addresses it:

Seismographic data indicating a strong event was posted at a USGS station near the Pentagon.

Interesting seismic data was found posted on a University of Arizona website by [professor?] Wallace. It had data from USGS seismic station CBN (Soldier’s Delight, MD — 38 miles from the Pentagon). The University of Arizona, 9/12/01, announced: “The impact produced a seismic signal that was recorded at the USGS station CBN.[v] Later, the time-stamp was removed [???] and a retraction statement accompanied the data graph:

Recording of energy originally thought to be from the collision of Flight 77 with the Pentagon at USGS seismic station CBN. The energy is dominantly surface wave energy, and gives a back azimuth roughly consistent with the Pentagon, later work showed that this is an unrelated event.253

Why would they retract? Were they told to? Notice that the author used yellow to block out the time — he was not subtle about it. Did it show a different time than the government report? If it weren’t incriminating, then why wouldn’t it be a problem for the experts to see it and decide for themselves? It was obvious that someone was trying to quiet this up.

According to the scale this probably was stamped at 10:10:50 – 10:13:10 (Hr: m: s) A strong signal appears at 697 seconds that would correspond to a time of 11 min. and 37 sec. Could it be the collapse signal? … Or more precisely is it the detonated explosion that caused the collapse? It is hauntingly similar to the WTC detonation signals that caused its collapse. CNN reported, “[at] 10:10 a.m. — A portion of the Pentagon collapses.” Could it actually have collapsed at 10:11 a.m.?

Why do Gerard Baum and Wong-Young Kim, in their report, not speak about this recording? Is it the smoking gun for controlled demolition? Why did Wallace have to yellow out the time stamp? Was it that incriminating? Yes.

sources:
http://911exposed.org/Attack2.htm (has graphics and data - please click)
http://tinyurl.com/mdyjbj (archived arizona.edu page)



ps- im trying to find some info to validate/confirm the purported (above) seismic data... will update eventually...

[tnemelckram]

In the 911 Pager Messages I found two messages that say there were two explosions, the time of one of the messages is around 10:13 AM. The other is from people in the Sheraton.

2001-09-11 10:13:33 Skytel [005103509] B ALPHA My dad is on foot walking towards the Pentagon. He just heard another explosion from there. There are also rumors of another explosion in DC.

2001-09-11 11:07:31 Skytel [005202563] A ALPHA Jesus - Both Michael and I are fine ... I was in a training class at the Sheraton PENTAGON .. we felt the explosions (there were 2). Cla

[painter]

and now "this video has been removed by user".

[Paul]

and now "this video has been removed by user".

I bought this testimony up on the the govt loyalist site forum and one of the members is passing of this testimony
as the pentagon roof collapsing and hitting the ground lol does anybody know the exact time the
roof collapsed or was it the same time he witnessed the explosion?

Quickly can anybody give me something to debunk this idiot i would love the opportunity to bury
a JFUCK please help me out here.

Cheers thecritta

omg lol the roof collapsing it just doesnt sound plausible to me

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[tnemelckram]

Hi all!

1. Paranoia mentioned the USGC Seismic data recording some "seismic anomaly" at the Pentagon area at around 10:11 on 9-11-01. Here's one of the Pager Messages apparently from or to someone at USGS about an earthquake in Hawaii sent at 10:14 AM same day. The time seems a real coincidence especially since this is the first mention of it, at least in the Pager Messages,. However, the rest of the message, if accurate, suggests that it is a legitimate coincidence because of the location coordinates and what appears to be a time of occurrence at 9:19 UTC.

2001-09-11 10:14:52 Skytel [005361965] D ALPHA sedas@gldmutt.cr.usgs.gov|M 4.9 EQ in HAWAII Z= 10km Tue Sep 11 00:09:19 2001 UTC 18.77N 155.42W| This information is provided by the USGS National Earthquake Information Center. The parameters are prelimina


2. FWIW here's another message about three below the above in the list and with the same time stamp concerning an explosion at the Pentagon.

2001-09-11 10:14:52 Skytel [005070005] B ALPHA They are reporting an explosion in DC? Randy J Rice Office 770 284 3155

This post has been edited by tnemelckram: Jan 5 2010, 02:42 PM

[paranoia]

it was BEFORE the collapse, as mentioned in my prior post, my watch said exactly 10:08 when it happened, cuz i took very specific note of it. i believe the collapse happened somewhere between 5-10 minutes LATER. for the exact time of the collapse you can look in the 9/11 video archive and check the news reports... like this one putting it at 10:14am:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e5a95PyZHss...feature=related

or you can check the video link from my earlier post and see the event (massive explosion) reported at 10:10am:

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=2912944806728436469

or in this video the woman construction worker describes as 15 minutes after the initial event (at 1:01 in the videoclip):

http://video.google.nl/videoplay?docid=575...0098&hl=nl#

-notice no one (reporters or closeby earwitness) connects the 2nd explosion to the collapse of the wall.


i've said it before, whatever it was, had enough force to shake the walls to my house, which was uphill and over 1/4 to 1/2 a mile away. that crappy little collapse of the wall hardly made a dent in the way of shaking the ground or sending a shockwave miles away.



btw - the video was removed by the user less than 2 days after i contacted the guy and forwarded him a link to this thread, as well as the complete text of my earlier post (above).... he probably got cold feet...

[tnemelckram]

Hi All!

Here's a look at what is said about the second explosion on Channel 9 -CBS Washington from the Internet Archive. Link:

http://www.archive.org/details/cbs200109110954-1036

The whole sequence of reporting the second explosion and roof cave-in seems real fishy to me.

First, early in the video, Dave Statter says he and his crew just happened to be nearby and thusare now quickly on the scene because they thought that the Pentagon was a likely target for attack and decided to hang around there instead of doing what they originally planned, which was to cover some local sporting event!

10:09AM (minute 15 of video) Statter reports a second explosion - "A loud pop" "to the east" "seemed a little bit different than the other ones" He adds that there were several secondary explosions prior to that that he clearly ties to the building fire as "tires popping", etc.

10:12AM (minute 18 of video) Statter abruptly ends this report by saying to the studio "can you take it back, we need to coordinate something here".

10:13:30 AM (minute 19:30 of video) Dave Herzog at the Washington Monument "explains" that the sounds Statter heard were "sonic booms of jet fighters that were scrambled out of Andrews Air Force Base we believe". They just circled Washington flying from the east to the west". Then he says that "at least one possibly two" "were scrambled" and then adds something about how they were going somewhere in a real hurry.

A. How did he get all of this information, out there by the Washington Monument doing soft news about tourists? All you'd expect him to know is the number of sonic booming jets he saw and heard. Instead, he does not give a specific number and instead says he does not know exactly how many, while at the same time reporting where they came form and how quickly they were going. He's not reporting anything he knew personally, he's reporting something someone told him.

B. To test Herzog's explanation I looked at the IAD radar replay released by the FAA via FOIA request (if it is to be believed). It clearly shows the how the three Quit 25 jets with Code "7777" flew at the time. These are the only three military jets that could be candidates for Herzog's sonic boom jets, at least according to the government's own radar video replay, which show no other military jets coming anywhere near Herzog's location at any time before Statter spoke about the second explosion.

C. At 10:01 and 10:05 a single jet arrives flying from west to east, does a 180 turn over the Pentagon, and flies back west, each about 23000 feet up and averaging 370 knots. At 10:10:30 a third jet again arrives from west to east, but this time circles the Pentagon area a couple of times, and then leaves westward, doing so at about 7,000 feet, at a minimum speed of 370 knots but never exceeding 490 knots.

D. The speed of sound in knots at sea level is 661.5 knots. The three military jets could not have produced a sonic boom at the speeds shown for them.

E. Not only that, none of these jets arrived from the east as Herzog described. Their high altitudes preclude them from having been recently "scrambled", let alone from Andrews, which is a mere 10 miles to the east. Finally, Herzog suggests that this was a group of jets headed somewhere in earnest, while these three jets flew through one by one roughly five minutes apart apparently conducting a patrol that was directed at nothing in particular.

10:14:30AM (minute 20:30 of video) As Herzog quits talking the Statter camera crew focuses on the Pentagon roof line where the collapse was about to occur even though it had not happened yet.

10:14:41AM (minute 20:41 of video) Statter says "Oh it collapsed right now" and the camera instantly shows the roof collapse. Does any one else think he sounds like he was expecting it, but not quite this soon?

At some point (I think soon after the collapse) the anchors repeat that Statter had heard sonic booms, not another explosion at the Pentagon. Sandwiched in between two iconic skyscraper collapses and the ongoing Pentagon bonfire, one would expect this to be quickly dropped instead of iterated. I think this is a really questionable pattern of behavior by these journalists.

This post has been edited by tnemelckram: Jan 11 2010, 01:46 AM