9/11: John Lear - Disinformation? Cia Operative? Options

[rob balsamo]

Another chat between Rob Balsamo and John Lear, Son of the Learjet and Core Member of Pilots For 9/11 Truth, answering the questions of those who refuse to ask him directly. Topics include CIA work, Iran-Contra, "Truth Movement" division, "Impossible Speeds", NTSB Data, and "No Plane Theories"... among other topics.
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[Trapster]

Ok, here we go.

1) Yes, I did listen to the interview. Twice.

2) I think Lear makes it clear as to how involved with the CIA he is. He took part in some real clandestine ops. Flying recon planes into secret bases in Laos, taking part in some Iran-Contra missions in the early 80's and taking part in some other very secret missions across the Middle East in the 70's and avoiding Soviet 'contact'.

Do you think a guy who flies these missions does NOT have some very high CIA clearances?

He says they have no 'folder' on him. Well, how would he know? He may not have been a top level trained Operative, but he sure did mesh with some of the Highest Level CIA operations with his skill set as a pilot. I will leave you to do the math and critical thinking on this.

3) John Lear has some strange theories on the whole UFO/NASA/Moon/et al. Check out this link: http://www.thelivingmoon.com/47john_lear/menu.html#Photo

He believes that the moon has a very thin atmosphere. No it does not. There is strange crystal structure on the moon. There are some interesting theories about what this may be. Instead, on a radio show, Lear says this may be a 'well of souls' of sorts. A totally off the wall theory that distracts from the more plausible theories. I'd call that Poisoning the Well, dis-info. Which gets us to:

4) Correct me if I'm wrong, but, does Lear theorize that it was holograms that hit the WTC? Seriously.

This is the kind of off the wall theories that bring discredit to the 'Truth' movement, and yes, it does poison the well of truth. Just like what one would expect from a CIA dis-info expert.

Rob,
I am one of the 'Black T-shirt wearing' people who shout "9/11 Was an Inside Job". I have worn my Lose Change 'Investigate 9/11' black T-shirt at Ground Zero on the 11th of September since 2006. I will be there in less than a month this year. I save the shouting for the street action we do in NYC around the anniversary; at Times Square and such.

I strongly believe that 9/11 was an Inside Job. In fact, this was confirmed to me by Pilot's member Dr. Bob Bowman. He told me the whole USAF story of their inability to intercept the hijacked jets story was bunk.

My suggestion is to really stay away from the 'no planes' theory, or theories. They are the weakest evidence in taking down the Official Theory.

Instead, as a pilot and with other pilots, explain how there is no way that those cockpits could have been over taken by hijackers armed with box cutters, after the FAA issued a warning to all aircraft just after 8:20am, before at least two of the other jets were hijacked. Focus on how hard it would be for a novice to simply keep control of a jetliner, much less navigate to NYC from Ohio or hit the Pentagon flying level into the side wall. That's your unique perspective and skill set to the 'Truth Movement'.

Keep fighting the Good Fight,
Trap

[rob balsamo]

Ok, here we go.

1) Yes, I did listen to the interview. Twice.

Clearly you havent. You may have 'heard' the interview "twice", but clearly you didnt listen.

Ok... here we go.

2) I think Lear makes it clear as to how involved with the CIA he is. He took part in some real clandestine ops.

If you listened to the interview, you would know he flew Cessna's from Wichita to SE Asia because the CIA couldnt get a boat to do it. So, the CIA started an airline as cover at the time, Lear was hired by that airline to fly Cessna's across the "pond". Yes, it was probably "covert" in the 60's so he didnt get shot down, but im sure you can google it now. Lear gives the name of the airline.

Flying recon planes into secret bases in Laos, taking part in some Iran-Contra missions in the early 80's

Again, if you listened to the interview, you would know that Lear never had a chance to fly any mission for "Iran-Contra" as the Russians shot down one of the planes over Russian territory. Im sure you can google this as well. Full sources are given including the name of the airline.

and taking part in some other very secret missions across the Middle East in the 70's and avoiding Soviet 'contact'.

The only time he "avoided USSR contact" is when he was told he will not fly. See reply above.

Do you think a guy who flies these missions does NOT have some very high CIA clearances?

Do you have evidence that Lear or any pilot flying today for an airline contracted by the CIA has "CIA Clearances"? And even if they do, are they all big bad boogie men?

He says they have no 'folder' on him. Well, how would he know? He may not have been a top level trained Operative, but he sure did mesh with some of the Highest Level CIA operations with his skill set as a pilot. I will leave you to do the math and critical thinking on this.

When Lear claims the CIA has "no folder on him", he is saying that he has no EMPLOYEE folder with the CIA. In other words, he wasnt employed directly by the CIA. The airline he worked for was contracted by the CIA. Why is this so hard for you to understand?

3) John Lear has some strange theories on the whole UFO/NASA/Moon/et al. Check out this link: http://www.thelivingmoon.com/47john_lear/menu.html#Photo

No one disputes John Lear has some "far out" theories. I even said it in the interview, if you listened. Clearly you havent.

This is the kind of off the wall theories that bring discredit to the 'Truth' movement,

Again, if you listen to the interview, Lear specifically says that if he is ever called upon to speak for P4T or the "Truth Movement" by mainstream media, he will defer it to me. Try actually listening to the interview.

By the way, who dictates who can speak out about 9/11? You? Do we live in America? You familiar with the 1st Amendment?

Rob,
I am one of the 'Black T-shirt wearing' people who shout "9/11 Was an Inside Job". I have worn my Lose Change 'Investigate 9/11' black T-shirt at Ground Zero on the 11th of September since 2006. I will be there in less than a month this year. I save the shouting for the street action we do in NYC around the anniversary; at Times Square and such.

I wont be standing beside you, nor will any of our professional aviators.

http://pilotsfor911truth.org/core

Our activism is filling out affidavits and putting our faces to our names with experience (see link above)... instead of coming across as some extreme fringe angry group.

But thats just my opinion and that of most professionals. You want to go out there and scream with others in a black T Shirt? More power to you. This is America after all.

My suggestion is to really stay away from the 'no planes' theory, or theories.

Clearly you havent listened to the interview or even read the top of our home page.

http://pilotsfor911truth.org

Please tell me and the rest of us what the underlined sentence says... millions of others have read it. You should take a look.

I think i made my point clear...

As for the rest of your post, its clear you havent even viewed our work. Start with "Flight Of American 77".