9/11: John Lear - Disinformation? Cia Operative? Options

[rob balsamo]

Another chat between Rob Balsamo and John Lear, Son of the Learjet and Core Member of Pilots For 9/11 Truth, answering the questions of those who refuse to ask him directly. Topics include CIA work, Iran-Contra, "Truth Movement" division, "Impossible Speeds", NTSB Data, and "No Plane Theories"... among other topics.
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[Trapster]

Ok, I have stayed away from this because I thought things needed to cool down a bit.

I am sorry if I have caused confusion or made unwarrented accusations. I see that I have even cause Mr. Lear to address these issues here on this forum. Greetings Mr Lear, you are a man of many accomplishments.

Ok, I understand that I am going after a Sacred Cow here. And that I don't know a thing about all the good work that Mr Lear may be doing behind the scenes.

However, (here I go)

Trap, you have provided no evidence of Lear being a CIA asset except innuendo, your personal belief, and paranoia. It has been spelled out clearly Lears' "ties" to the CIA. He doesnt have any except being hired for an airline which was contracted by the CIA. This has been made clear to you time and time again, yet you still fail to grasp such a concept.

Yes, I talked about the 'interviewer' in the third person because I did not want to get into something directly where personalities and feelings could be hurt. I knew who was giving the interview.

Yep, all I have is evidence of acknowleged CIA 'ties' and paranoia. But, is it really that unfounded??

Let me walk that cat backward: If a government operative wanted to discredit a potent element of the Truth Movement, what might he do?

Send into that group a well respected and well credentialed individual with name recognition? A person who might have some of his own 'unfounded theories' outside the movement that might be used to discredit the entire group? And of course, when a member is interviewed in the press, the first thing the member is called on to defend is this tangential 'theory'?

Point of evidence:
Honestly, do ya really think that there is an underground 'Sub Canal' dug from the Pacific to a lake in Nevada where an Undersea Warfare base for subs is located? Just ponder it, I don't want a full blown argument.
http://www.thelivingmoon.com/47john_lear/0...ets.html#Nevada

The 'evidence' presented here is pretty thin: A sign about Undersea Warfare and a very secretive guard.

Well, I think think of a very logical reason why the US Navy would want to locate a test and research center in a lake in Nevada---Security from prying eyes. Torpedoes, Sonar, SEAL tactics, propulsion systems (propellers), and more could be observed from Soviet Subs if tested in any Ocean. Nevada is the site of other 'secret' military bases, so the location of a Navy testing center is not that far fetched. But, I'd call saying that there is a deep underground canal linking the lake with the ocean a real trip in creative thinking. (With all due respect Mr. Lear)

And, you know how the press loves to go at people who talk about UFO's and Alien Civilizations. Just ask Presidential candidate Kucinich about how they tore into him.

(Personally, I hope that some of what Lear says about that subject is true, it'd be fun to talk to an alien one day, ask him how his civilization coped with the challenges we face here on Earth)

My last words on the subject (truly)
The Pilot's for 9/11 Truth is a powerful organization. It is guaranteed to attract both positive and negative attention once some of its big research projects are completed. Projects involving solid mathematical analysis, data computation and principals of science. But, you can be sure that the first 'press' questions will be directed toward the subject of 'crazy UFO conspiracy theories'.

To Mr Lear, I did not mean to insult you or your contributions. I see from your response that you have a great sense of humor and took it lightly. You have presented a truly astonishing body of 'theory' on other sites. Perhaps there is much more to mankind that I know. Perhaps I am paranoid in a negative way. Given the gravity (slight pun) of the magnitude of the events of 9/11, I simply caution any professional group to be weary of any 'appearance' of 'crazy theories'. As we know, perception is reality.

Cheers John Lear, thanks for taking time here. Cheers Pilots for 9/11 Truth, keep up the good work.