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9/11: John Lear - Disinformation? Cia Operative?

rob balsamo
post Aug 19 2009, 10:07 PM
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Another chat between Rob Balsamo and John Lear, Son of the Learjet and Core Member of Pilots For 9/11 Truth, answering the questions of those who refuse to ask him directly. Topics include CIA work, Iran-Contra, "Truth Movement" division, "Impossible Speeds", NTSB Data, and "No Plane Theories"... among other topics.
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post May 19 2010, 07:02 AM
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Ex-defence minister defends aliens, says Hawking wrong


Response to Stephen Hawking Comments - April 26, 2010

It is unfortunate that Stephen Hawking has added his voice to a growing chorus of xenophobia and fear regarding what he terms "Aliens."

Secondly, as a scientist, he should know better: Any interstellar civilization would possess such technologies that the meager resources of Earth would be unneeded. If you can travel faster than the speed of light, you can manifest what is needed. Period. Moreover, IF they were hostile- since ETs are already visiting Earth

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QUOTE (pan @ May 17 2010, 10:02 AM) *
Ex-defence minister defends aliens, says Hawking wrong


Response to Stephen Hawking Comments - April 26, 2010

It is unfortunate that Stephen Hawking has added his voice to a growing chorus of xenophobia and fear regarding what he terms "Aliens."

Secondly, as a scientist, he should know better: Any interstellar civilization would possess such technologies that the meager resources of Earth would be unneeded. If you can travel faster than the speed of light, you can manifest what is needed. Period. Moreover, IF they were hostile- since ETs are already visiting Earth




Hello Pan,

There are good aliens and bad aliens just like there are good earthlings and bad earthlings. The bad aliens gave us some real nasty offensive weapons one of which was the weapon that destroyed the WTC.

It used molecular disassociation to reduce matter to it barest component which is why there was only 1 story left instead of 13 stories as in a controlled demolition. All of the dust particles none of which was more than 80 microns in size was what molecular disassociation does to matter: steel, concrete etc. We have 36 offensive weapons orbiting platforms plus 2 Naval command posts about the same size as the ISS.

If you ever wondered why it takes the shuttle 3 days (instead of the Russians who make it there in 30 minutes including docking) to get to the ISS its because they are stopping at those platforms with food and supplies. And if your wondering why it takes the shuttle 2 days to get back which should only take 54 minutes to deorbit and land its because they are distributing more food and supplies that were brought up by the Russians a couple of days before the shuttle arrives at the ISS.

Its a real nice cozy arrangement they have there and is the reason that, unknown by the public there are currently about 5000 astronauts current and qualified which include the Army, Navy, Air Force, NASA and a few other secret teams. They all operate under US Space Command which was taken over by the Navy in, I think, 1992.

Cold war? There never was any such thing in reality. All the threats and hoopla was for public consumption. We have always been close allies to the Russians.
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QUOTE (johnlear @ May 19 2010, 06:05 PM) *
Hello Pan,

There are good aliens and bad aliens just like there are good earthlings and bad earthlings. The bad aliens gave us some real nasty offensive weapons one of which was the weapon that destroyed the WTC.

It used molecular disassociation to reduce matter to it barest component which is why there was only 1 story left instead of 13 stories as in a controlled demolition. All of the dust particles none of which was more than 80 microns in size was what molecular disassociation does to matter: steel, concrete etc. We have 36 offensive weapons orbiting platforms plus 2 Naval command posts about the same size as the ISS.

If you ever wondered why it takes the shuttle 3 days (instead of the Russians who make it there in 30 minutes including docking) to get to the ISS its because they are stopping at those platforms with food and supplies. And if your wondering why it takes the shuttle 2 days to get back which should only take 54 minutes to deorbit and land its because they are distributing more food and supplies that were brought up by the Russians a couple of days before the shuttle arrives at the ISS.

Its a real nice cozy arrangement they have there and is the reason that, unknown by the public there are currently about 5000 astronauts current and qualified which include the Army, Navy, Air Force, NASA and a few other secret teams. They all operate under US Space Command which was taken over by the Navy in, I think, 1992.

Cold war? There never was any such thing in reality. All the threats and hoopla was for public consumption. We have always been close allies to the Russians.


Dear Mr. John Lear,

Thank you very much for your comments its a great Honor for me to be associated with this forum in particular with you too, Mr. Lear I am just overwhelmed by comments to this posting as well. I also agree with you one hundred percent that, No air planes crashed on 911. If it were there would be record of of takeoffs from both of the two air planes American 11 and American 77. Also from the info that I have been able to obtain to the best of my knowledge there is no information of tower release,no Bureau of statistics records, no photos. The whole thing to me is very suspicious and I wonder why the previous president and now the current President Obama does not wish to have this matter investigated.

Sir If I can take a minute of your time I like to talk on another topic here, it has to do with the pictures taken by the Lunar Orbiter which no one in the mainstream media talks about not even that stooge, Alex Jones. I would like to ask you what you make about Missing Lunar Orbiter Tapes Found In an Abandoned McDonald's.
Mr. Lear do you have any idea how those tapes could had possible had made their way in a take away food store? and why? You know sir I have read a number of posts even in here stating that UFO Is being made up by those in the NWO. To me this is just complete nonsense being said by idiots such as that Zionist Alex Jones and their Sheep's just to misinform the public so we are not aware what is really going on.

I have also included the video from the Lunar Orbiter with the pictures that mikesingh of the Abovetopsecret.com discovered
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=88_li5XJimk

Written by mikesingh October 09, 2008.
Edited by Pan.
Here are the uncensored Moon Images taken by the Lunar Orbiter!
According to Arizona State University, the Lunar Orbiter images were all digitally scanned at 400 dpi at the Lunar and Planetary Institute in Houston. Whole images were too large to be scanned at once and were broken up into four sections.
From the data and resources about each lunar orbiter image found in Anderson and Miller (1971), they obtained information about the side length, altitude and emission angle of the images they scanned. To calculate the resolution of each image they followed several steps. They first calculated the resolution of images with an emission angle of less than 10° by dividing the side length of each image by the number of pixels, and then calculated the distance to the surface by dividing the altitude by the cosine of the emission angle. The resolution of low-emission angle images was plotted against their distance to the surface. From this was obtained the best-fit equation: Corrected Resolution = -0.0023272 + 0.014376 * Distance to Surface and applied it to the remaining images to get the corrected resolution.

Photo Credit: Steve Jurvetson from the, Above Top Secret



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post May 19 2010, 11:01 PM
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QUOTE (pan @ May 18 2010, 01:02 AM) *
Dear Mr. John Lear,



Sir If I can take a minute of your time I like to talk on another topic here, it has to do with the pictures taken by the Lunar Orbiter which no one in the mainstream media talks about not even that stooge, Alex Jones. I would like to ask you what you make about Missing Lunar Orbiter Tapes Found In an Abandoned McDonald's.
Mr. Lear do you have any idea how those tapes could had possible had made their way in a take away food store? and why? You know sir I have read a number of posts even in here stating that UFO Is being made up by those in the NWO. To me this is just complete nonsense being said by idiots such as that Zionist Alex Jones and their Sheep's just to misinform the public so we are not aware what is really going on.


I have no idea whats behind the McDonalds Lunar Orbiter scam. It may be an attempt to link them with the 700 missing tapes from the Apollo missions. There were no tapes because there was no Apollo mission that landed or even orbited the moon and I could give you several hundred reasons why that would not have been possible.

As far as Lunar Orbiter tapes I have the best collection of LO photos including one that, although airbrushed, contains so much information that they dare not release it. It was a photo of a city 125 miles north west of Copernicus looking north near Tobias Meyer LO-3-123H3. I have a 2 foot by 3 foot enlargement in my den. For those who have any photo interpretation background it knocks them for a loop. I have other LO photos that clearly (to me and others with photo interpretation experience) shows very large cities.

All photos in the Lunar Orbiter series taken between 1965 and 1967 where not as carefully airbrushed as those we see from Clementine and other recent photo expeditions. Now it is all done digitally and automatically. The way they hide cities on the near side of the moon from telescopes are camouflaged with holograms or other similar devices. My best 2 examples are of Endymion and Petavius B.

So in answer to your question I believe the McDonalds missing photos are to confuse the public with the missing 700 reels of the faked Apollo mission. Through the resources of thelivingmoon.com team we asked for a first look at one and were denied. The first released photo from McDonalds had already been airbrushed so it was no big find.

To quote one of Hoaglands friends, "NASA didn't lie abut a few things; they lied about everything."
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- rob balsamo   9/11: John Lear - Disinformation? Cia Operative?   Aug 19 2009, 10:07 PM
- - painter   Thanks for doing this and putting it up, Rob. Lear...   Aug 20 2009, 01:07 AM
- - albertchampion   thank you, rob. for that interview. and for puttin...   Aug 20 2009, 01:15 AM
- - Trapster   Be very weary of Lear. He is a dis-info specialis...   Aug 20 2009, 10:40 PM
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