John Lear, In His Own Words: An Opportunity To Ask, Mr. Lear questions about some of his more extraordinary views. Options

[painter]

Most of you are aware that a (mostly 'manufactured', IMO) controversy has arisen regarding some of John Lear's views on a variety of topics -- from UFO's, aliens, Moon Bases -- to exactly what happened at the WTC on 9/11. Many of these topics were brought to my attention via a four hour interview conducted by the Camelot Project and put up on youtube over a year ago: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pj-HzHi3dF0 I was quite fascinated by this interview finding Mr. Lear a congenial and interesting person with views so unconventional I barely knew what to think. My world view isn't conventional, either, but Mr. Lear speaks of things from the point of view of someone who has been down a different branch of the "rabbit hole" than I have.

Earlier today I sent a private message to John asking if he would be willing to discuss some of these views in the context of our "Alternative Theories" forum and he has agreed to do so. The "Alternative Theories" forum can not be viewed by "guests" but only people who have joined the P4T forum. Although it is in all caps at the top of every page here, I'll underscore that views expressed in the forum in general, and especially here in "Alternative Theories," ARE NOT NECESSARILY THE OPINIONS OF PILOTS FOR 911 TRUTH.

So to begin, I want to thank you, John for agreeing to participate in this forum and this discussion. I hope we can all keep it civil and learn something from one another.

I'd like to begin by asking you two questions and my first is about the interview conducted by the Camelot Project. This was a very lengthy and detailed interview. So I'm curious, how did you feel about this interview, the way it was conducted and the way it expresses your views? Do you feel that, in the main, it has presented your views accurately? Are there any qualifications or corrections you would like to air about this interview?

My second question has to do with the subject of UFOs. I'm not a UFO enthusiast although I have paid a bit of attention to this phenomenon, including reading Jacques Valee's book, "Invisible College," when it was originally published in the mid 1970s and, more recently, volume 1 of Richard Dolan's, "UFOs and the National Security State." I found both these books, and especially Dolan's quite interesting. Still, the fact is, although I half humorously say "I'm from another planet," to help explain my over-riding consternation at the way human beings conduct their affairs on this planet, I have no (conscious) personal experience with the UFO phenomena, aliens and so forth.

So, with this introduction, my second question is a two part one: A) what is your personal experience with the UFO phenomena and B) what can you tell us in brief about the relationship between the US military (and/or "national security state") and their on-going investigations into and associations with this phenomena?

I hope other people will take the opportunity to ask questions as we go forward.

[painter]

Thanks, John, for taking the time to join us and share some of your views. I see there are already many questions being asked which could keep you busy for hours.

Those who know me through this forum know that one of my mottos is, "Whoever controls your perception of reality controls you." We base our decisions upon what we believe to be true, whether it is true or not. For this reason I'm careful of adopting claims made by others that I can't 'reasonably' establish as factual for myself in some way. I haven't the skills, for example, to either calculate or evaluate the veracity of other's calculations regarding the gravity of the moon. Still, I'm quite willing to entertain the possibility that the 'commonly accepted truth of the matter' may not in fact be the truth. Anyone who has looked down the 9/11 rabbit hole and realizes it for what it is, has to also cope with the rather astounding revelation that our perception and understanding of even the most obvious things (such as the physical impossibility of steel structures falling through themselves at near free-fall while displaying all the characteristics of controlled demolition without being demolitions) can be influenced and controlled. If one takes this a few steps further it is easy to come to the conclusion that being lied to and deceived is far more common than we like to think, indeed, not the exception but the rule.

It's interesting that you bring up the subject of reincarnation. Although I joke about it to keep people from thinking I may be completely bonkers, the fact is, although it may also be 'metaphorical' in some sense of the word, I do believe I'm "from another planet." This is based on my earliest memories, growing up on a farm in rural Indiana in the 1950s, having 'on the natch' 'mystical' experiences (especially in 'communing' with nature and its forces) and the previously mentioned 'consternation' about people around me. As a young man as a result of all this and many other experiences I came to the conclusion that 1) social reality is a construct (and, therefore, could conceivably be reconstructed in some other way) and 2) there was 'something amiss' in our general understanding of ourselves as human beings -- who we are, where we are, how we came to be here and what it all means, if anything. Much of my life has been dedicated to exploring these observations and questions through various means -- and this brings me back to the subject of reincarnation.

For me the fundamental question is WHAT might 'reincarnate' (pass from one carnal body to another). You employ the term "soul" which is commonly used but I question what this term actually means, or must have to mean in this context. What is there in me, if anything, that can survive the decomposition of the physical body? If we're going to take this question of reincarnation seriously, we also have to turn that around and ask, what is there in me that existed prior to the formation of this body and its personality? In other words, I can't equate 'personality' with 'soul' because 'personality' is the result of (mostly social) external influences. It is shaped by the influences of life: A very specific life lived in very specific spatial and temporal conditions, including that of the physical body. 'Soul' (I prefer the term 'essence'), on the other hand, is not constrained by the same space/time coordinates. Thus, if it exists, it has to be composed of a 'quality of matter' that is not only finer than what we ordinarily think of as 'matter' (such as our Earth bodies), but even finer than that of our psychic functioning such as perception via the sense mechanisms and even thought itself (which is, after all, mostly conditioned brain activity).

You also put forward the idea that reincarnation of the 'soul' is an 'evolutionary' process in the sense that it can, "learn to live with integrity and without envy, hate or greed." For me this brings up the question of 'how' -- how and in what sense does the 'soul' 'learn'?

I could go on but I think I'll stop here and see whether or how you respond to what I've said so far and the question I've ended with.