9/11: World Trade Center Attack - Official Release! Options

[rob balsamo]

"9/11: WORLD TRADE CENTER ATTACK" analyzes the events which took place in New York City on the morning of the 11th of September 2001. Analysis includes Black Box Recovery, Radar and Speed data analysis, Aircraft Control, and "Hijacker" Pilot Skill. Interviews with 757/767 Captains from United and American Airlines.



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[onesliceshort]

Just for once, I'd like to see any alleged pilots who come here offhandedly dismissing claims to actually watch the dam presentations or at least familiarize themselves with what the counterevidence actually is. Not swagger in like John Wayne, insult the owner and the forum and pick through which arguments they can generalize over and waffle about (ie bullshit). Sennaha, your "sim" argument went down the plughole in one post.

You're comparing your joyride sessions in a sim to VMO charts, precedent and pilots with apparently much more savvy than yourself (watch the video, read the links, inform yourself. Please.).

The transcript can be found here if you can't be arsed. What struck me more than anything was the "controlability" section, particularly because I'm a layman.

Even this "sheep" knew what EAS was (you've been repeating the same misinfo over at ATS since January!). And I can't even fly a kite!

[rob balsamo]

Even this "sheep" knew what EAS was (you've been repeating the same misinfo over at ATS since January!). And I can't even fly a kite!

Sennaha is from ATS?

lol...

No wonder he is uninformed.

ATS has banned every single representative of P4T who spent some time to register there. (I also caution those who wish to visit their forum as it is loaded with malware. This is where "duhbunkers" and we agree. You would be wise to clear your cache after each visit on ATS, or dont visit it at all...)

However, I will give Sennaha some credit, at lease he has the backbone to come here and debate the topic with an actual opponent (albeit he clearly doesn't want to publicly put his name to his claims as of yet, i dont blame him), instead of libeling us on another forum in which all those being libeled have been banned and cannot defend themselves.

Now all he needs to do is actually review the topic in full.

He may be a pilot, but he clearly hasn't reviewed the data, our presentation, or the Core member list.

[sennaha]

Sennaha is from ATS?

lol...

No wonder he is uninformed.

ATS has banned every single representative of P4T who spent some time to register there. (I also caution those who wish to visit their forum as it is loaded with malware. This is where "duhbunkers" and we agree. You would be wise to clear your cache after each visit on ATS, or dont visit it at all...)

However, I will give Sennaha some credit, at lease he has the backbone to come here and debate the topic with an actual opponent (albeit he clearly doesn't want to publicly put his name to his claims as of yet, i dont blame him), instead of libeling us on another forum in which all those being libeled have been banned and cannot defend themselves.

Now all he needs to do is actually review the topic in full.

He may be a pilot, but he clearly hasn't reviewed the data, our presentation, or the Core member list.

I am not from ATS. I really don't even know what website that acronym that is for. I might have made one post on the sight after watching your video about the airspeeds, and the 75-76 not being able to physically do what clearly happened in front of thousands of people.

I get mad at some of the information that is posted. I personally know pilots that were friends with these pilots that lost they're lives on that day.
Actual pairing numbers, actual aircraft, actually pushing off the gate with unsuspecting passengers just living they're lives in this short but important world we build for ourselves. Like I said, it is good to question information that our media, government tells us. We should be weary. This is too far gone for your built up theories to pass the any litmus test science has to offer. If anything, you give me motivation to get in contact with many of the sim instructors that simulated this not long after the event took place. So, debate may be good.
I would post my name, but I don't need the brain damage. I have enough on my own plate of life, to be honest. However, if someone would like to pm me and contact me, I would be more than open, as long as the debate would one on one with respect that wouldn't lead to an aggravating future.

This post has been edited by sennaha: Jul 5 2011, 05:02 PM

[rob balsamo]

However, if someone would like to pm me and contact me, I would be more than open, as long as the debate would one on one with respect that wouldn't lead to an aggravating future.

I PMed you. Looking forward to your reply.

As to an "aggravating future". What do you think your future will bring on this forum when you label all the members "sheep"? (many of which have experience in aviation you could only wish to achieve).

The rest of your post i will address if you refuse to reply to my PM.

Anytime you wish to answer my questions, feel free.

[sennaha]

I PMed you. Looking forward to your reply.

As to an "aggravating future". What do you think your future will bring on this forum when you label all the members "sheep"? (many of which have experience in aviation you could only wish to achieve).

The rest of your post i will address if you refuse to reply to my PM.

Anytime you wish to answer my questions, feel free.

I didn't call every member of this forum sheep Rob. I was e-mailed your website by a friend that gets caught up into conspiracy theories.
This one hit a button for obvious reasons. So, I'm sure many your forum members, regardless of what facts are proven, or in fact, facts, can honestly be described in that manner.

[rob balsamo]

I didn't call every member of this forum sheep Rob. I was e-mailed your website by a friend that gets caught up into conspiracy theories.
This one hit a button for obvious reasons. So, I'm sure many your forum members, regardless of what facts are proven, or in fact, facts, can honestly be described in that manner.

Anytime you wish to answer my questions, feel free. Need me to repeat them?