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United Airliners Tracked A Different Flight 93 Than The Faa, according to ACARS messages

woody
post Sep 24 2009, 04:13 PM
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The ACARS messages between United and Flight 93 have been released, with astonishing insights. Here's the flight path according to ACARS:

9:22 PIT (Pittsburgh)

9:32 CAK (Canton/Akron)

9:36 CLE (Cleveland)

9:47 TOL (Toledo)

9:51 FWY (Fort Wayne, IN)

10:10 CMI (Champaign, IL)

IMO, the strongest case for plane duplication until now.

More here:

http://911woodybox.blogspot.com/2009/09/un...-different.html
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post Sep 27 2009, 11:05 AM
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Interesting information, supporting what most of us already know--the OCT is a damn lie.
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post Oct 24 2009, 06:33 AM
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http://911woodybox.blogspot.com/2009/09/un...-different.html

I'm transitioning from VB 5 to VB.net. I can see you went to a lot of work. Very nice. Thanks for all the well laid out info.
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post Feb 26 2010, 04:50 AM
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From Bambooboy, "Case Study Acars Ual Ua93 Rev 3.0b En":

http://www.scribd.com/doc/27408068/Case-St...a93-Rev-3-0b-En

See the discussion about on loose change forum:

http://s1.zetaboards.com/LooseChangeForums.../2319930/1/#new
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post Feb 27 2010, 09:32 AM
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Woody, do you think this comment from Marr about UAL 93 is

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Marr told Commission staff that his focus was on UAL 93, which was circling
over Chicago. Marr thought VAL 93 was waiting for word over what had been happening
across the country to begin its attack.
-source: 9/11 Memo

a. A blip insert.

b. Your second "swap" plane.

c. The official plane


As the story goes, the official plane doesn't leave Cleveland airspace so we can rule out C. We can't confirm or deny A.

Could this be the plane that flew from Chicago airspace and then s/sw through Champagne causing the ACARS to be sent to Champagne? There is no purpose for this route in the event of a swap or within the context of the official story. So I think we can scrap this scenario.

Or perhaps Chicago airspace was the launch point for the swap plane? Marr is 'seeing' the swap plane before the swap as described in the memo. The official plane is lost on radar, the swap from Chicago takes place near Cleveland in the radar hole, and the official plane continues to fly s/sw resulting in the ACARS to Ft. Wayne, IN, Champagne,IL and then who knows where?
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post Mar 1 2010, 09:11 PM
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QUOTE (SwingDangler @ Feb 27 2010, 09:32 AM) *
Woody, do you think this comment from Marr about UAL 93 is

-source: 9/11 Memo

a. A blip insert.

b. Your second "swap" plane.

c. The official plane


As the story goes, the official plane doesn't leave Cleveland airspace so we can rule out C. We can't confirm or deny A.

Could this be the plane that flew from Chicago airspace and then s/sw through Champagne causing the ACARS to be sent to Champagne? There is no purpose for this route in the event of a swap or within the context of the official story. So I think we can scrap this scenario.

Or perhaps Chicago airspace was the launch point for the swap plane? Marr is 'seeing' the swap plane before the swap as described in the memo. The official plane is lost on radar, the swap from Chicago takes place near Cleveland in the radar hole, and the official plane continues to fly s/sw resulting in the ACARS to Ft. Wayne, IN, Champagne,IL and then who knows where?



Hi,
look, this memo is absolutely not in contrast with what the ACARS say.

Marr has info on UA93 from some radar, not from RGS.
but some acars messages, show that the aircraft was in contact with the RGS of TOLEDO and the with the one of FORT WAYNE.
Both of them, are really near by Chicago, and their 200 miles VHF range, also cover Chicago ( this does not mean that Chicago does not have a its own RGS, but "circling over" can easily mean: near by Chicago, and this fits well with the RGS of Toledo, for example ).

thx for the link to the memo.

plz, read the CASE STUDY ( sorry for my poor english )
and also follow the discussion here:
http://www.911blogger.com/node/22732#comment-227911
and here:
http://s1.zetaboards.com/LooseChangeForums.../2319930/1/#new

all my articles are here:
http://info911insidejob.blogspot.com/

Bambooboy

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