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Aal77 Fdr Decoder Program, Decodes almost 4 more seconds

wstutt
post Oct 21 2009, 07:57 AM
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I have created a new program to decode AAL77's raw FDR file.

I am making it available for download along with it's source code and some output files from the program.

You can read more about it here

It decodes almost 4 more seconds of data than what appears at the end of the NTSB CSV file.

I welcome suggestions for any more parameters you would like decoded or any other features you would like added.

I will also be discussing this on the J.R.E.F. "AA77 FDR Data, Explained" thread as well as here.

Warren.

mod edit: Although Pilots For 9/11 Truth do not have any reason to believe the above program is offered for any nefarious purpose, we felt the responsibility to add this disclaimer. Pilots For 9/11 Truth do not vouch for nor is responsible for any of the data provided above by Warren. Nor can we guarantee his program is free of malicious code. Download at your own risk.

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rob balsamo
post Oct 24 2009, 06:01 PM
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Looks like our good friend Mackey finally decided to look up the definition of supercritical after I had to repeat it twice, although once again, a little knowledge is more dangerous than none.... Perhaps Mackey while sweeping the floors at NASA overheard Whitcomb talking to a friend or something... (RIP Whitcomb! Don't let Mackey upset your slumber)

First from Mackey....

"Boeing aircraft typically cruise above their critical Mach number..... Up at altitude, they cruise around 0.8 Mach or so all day long. This is done using supercritical wing design," - Ryan Mackey


And now reality...

"Several methods exist to reduce wave drag, including the use of swept wings, slender or thin bodies, and supercritical airfoils. These airfoils have critical Mach numbers very close to one (hence the term supercritical) thereby delaying and reducing the large increase in drag due to wave drag. " - aerospaceweb

"With the supercritical wing, a substantial rise in the drag-divergence Mach number is realized and the critical Mach number is delayed even up to 0.99. This delay represents a major increase in commercial airplane performance." - Centennial Of Flight Commission.


(bolding emphasis mine)

Just a quick search I did to help out Mackey. (IMG:http://pilotsfor911truth.org/forum/style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)

For those still confused, a supercritical wing design delays Critical Mach. It doesn't allow more efficient flight above Mcrit as Mackey would have you believe.

Ohhh... so close Mackey, but still wrong. (IMG:http://pilotsfor911truth.org/forum/style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)

IIRC, Mcrit (Critical Mach, or... Mach Critical) on a 757/767 is near .89-.91 Mach. Usually Mmo is structured around Mcrit. I'll double check with our 757/767 Capts.

(by the way Mackey, not all Boeings utilize supercritical wing design. But i'll let you look that up along with your static "probes" on such aircraft...)
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post Oct 24 2009, 10:54 PM
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QUOTE (rob balsamo @ Oct 24 2009, 06:01 PM) *
I'll double check with our 757/767 Capts.



Quick update.

I spoke to Rusty Aimer, 757/767 Capt for United Airlines who has actual time in the aircraft reportedly used on 9/11.

I read Rusty the quote from Mackey in the above post regarding "Boeing aircraft typically cruise above their critical Mach number........ ".

Rusty's immediate reply... "Bullshit!"

Needless to say, we had several good laughs. (IMG:http://pilotsfor911truth.org/forum/style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)

Rusty also verified my recollection of Mcrit for the 757/767... the purpose of the call...

If anyone wants such quotes on tape, let me know.. my "mom's basement" that i live in (according to many J.REF 'skeptics'... lol).. is in shambles after production of our latest presentation "World Trade Center Attack" filling orders... and i couldn't find my recorder while speaking with Rusty. Although he is willing to put it on tape and will do so if needed. Again, many of our pilots aren't forum types.

I can get many more sources, but whats the point. Mackey is already completely discredited.

J.REF "skeptics", you may want to ask yourself why Mackey never sources any of his claims, starting with his "Compressibility" theory, assuming you are a true "skeptic".

Mackey, it's clear why you attempt to 'ignore' us and instead debate NPT sans an opponent. When you are forced to debate us, you lose credibility by the hour. Then again, you don't even need to debate us to lose credibility, you just need to keep posting your absurd claims. Thanks!
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post Oct 26 2009, 05:09 PM
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QUOTE (rob balsamo @ Oct 24 2009, 09:54 PM) *
Quick update.

I spoke to Rusty Aimer, 757/767 Capt for United Airlines who has actual time in the aircraft reportedly used on 9/11.

I read Rusty the quote from Mackey in the above post regarding "Boeing aircraft typically cruise above their critical Mach number........ ".

Rusty's immediate reply... "Bullshit!"


Not that it is needed, but I had a chance to speak with Ralph Kolstad, another 757/767 Captain, but from American Airlines, who also has actual time in the aircraft reportedly used on 9/11, specifically N644AA (American 77), about Mackey's "Critical Mach" claims as well.

Ralph's reply when read the above quote from Mackey...

verbatim - "Ahahahahahaha, clearly the guy doesn't have a clue what he is talking about."

We also spoke about Altimeter lag and the new 4 seconds provided by Warren.

Question I asked - "Would the altimeter be reading 187 MSL if the aircraft impacted the Pentagon? Could the altimeter have been lagging?"

Ralph - "No, absolutely not. The standby altimeter may have been lagging as that is expected, they are like the altimeters you see in a Cessna, but certainly not information coming off the Air data computer. These static systems are very accurate on modern jet aircraft. So no, the altimeter wouldn't be lagging."

Question - "The radar altimeter shows 4 feet.... this would have to be bouncing off something higher than the ground due to FDR altitude?"

Ralph - "Yes, and it would have to be something pretty solid, not just an antenna or pole or sporadic tree or something..."

Ralph - "Clearly they [detractors] know the terminology to make it look like they know what they're talking about, but they just don't know how to apply it correctly."

There was a lot more we talked about exposing more fallacies by those who "never been in a cockpit" (as stated by Ralph), such as the new speeds in Warren's data, but at this point, we're into overkill.

Again, i'll be happy to provide such statements recorded if need be.... i still haven't found my recorder. But i can call Ralph again for an interview when i do, and if needed.
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- wstutt   Aal77 Fdr Decoder Program   Oct 21 2009, 07:57 AM
- - dMole   Thanks Warren. I noticed your post on Randi's...   Oct 21 2009, 08:58 AM
|- - wstutt   QUOTE (dMole @ Oct 26 2009, 01:58 PM) Tha...   Oct 21 2009, 04:16 PM
- - rob balsamo   Warren, At quick glance... Your last 4 seconds do...   Oct 21 2009, 09:56 AM
|- - rob balsamo   QUOTE (rob balsamo @ Oct 21 2009, 09:56 A...   Oct 21 2009, 10:36 AM
||- - wstutt   QUOTE (rob balsamo @ Oct 26 2009, 03:36 P...   Oct 21 2009, 05:30 PM
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- - rob balsamo   Had some time to get this more precise.... For Ra...   Oct 21 2009, 03:42 PM
- - Domenick DiMaggio CIT   im curious to why warren says at other places the ...   Oct 22 2009, 03:40 PM
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|- - rob balsamo   QUOTE (wstutt @ Oct 22 2009, 04:50 PM) I ...   Oct 22 2009, 04:54 PM
|- - wstutt   QUOTE (rob balsamo @ Oct 27 2009, 09:54 P...   Oct 23 2009, 02:43 AM
|- - Omega892R09   QUOTE (rob balsamo @ Oct 20 2009, 07:54 P...   Oct 24 2009, 11:53 AM
|- - wstutt   QUOTE (Omega892R09 @ Oct 29 2009, 04:53 P...   Oct 24 2009, 03:40 PM
- - rob balsamo   So i decided to take a gander over at the romper r...   Oct 22 2009, 07:10 PM
- - Domenick DiMaggio CIT   bird strikes? you mean at some point he claimed a...   Oct 22 2009, 08:20 PM
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- - rob balsamo   This was too good to pass up and gives new meaning...   Oct 22 2009, 10:39 PM
- - rob balsamo   I see Mackey has written a long convoluted post ba...   Oct 23 2009, 02:40 AM
- - rob balsamo   That works Warren... thanks..   Oct 23 2009, 03:41 AM
- - wstutt   As I thanked apathoid on J.R.E.F., I would also li...   Oct 23 2009, 07:59 AM
- - Aldo Marquis CIT   Not to derail the thread here, but I was curious W...   Oct 23 2009, 03:32 PM
- - rob balsamo   I took a stroll through Randiland during my mornin...   Oct 24 2009, 08:37 AM
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|- - Omega892R09   QUOTE (Domenick DiMaggio CIT @ Oct 22 2009, 0...   Oct 24 2009, 11:47 AM
- - rob balsamo   Since the minions at Randiland are confused... i...   Oct 24 2009, 10:54 AM
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- - rob balsamo   Looks like our good friend Mackey finally decided ...   Oct 24 2009, 06:01 PM
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- - rob balsamo   I understand some are attempting to argue Pressure...   Oct 28 2009, 11:15 PM
- - Turbofan   I've finally had a chance to catch up on the l...   Oct 29 2009, 10:56 AM
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|- - rob balsamo   QUOTE (wstutt @ Oct 31 2009, 04:33 PM) Pe...   Oct 31 2009, 04:59 PM
- - painter   Yeah. I'd like to see this data independently ...   Oct 29 2009, 02:29 PM
- - Turbofan   QUOTE I just looked up the long accelerations... A...   Oct 29 2009, 05:28 PM
- - wstutt   I now have version 1.1 of my AAL77 FDR Decoder ava...   Nov 4 2009, 10:29 AM
- - wstutt   I now have version 1.2 of my AAL77 FDR Decoder ava...   Nov 19 2009, 08:04 AM
- - rob balsamo   Hi Warren, Thanks for posting the new csv file of...   Nov 20 2009, 02:37 AM
|- - wstutt   Hi Rob, QUOTE (rob balsamo @ Nov 25 2009, 07...   Nov 20 2009, 06:04 PM
- - wstutt   I now have version 1.3 of my AAL77 FDR Decoder ava...   Nov 23 2009, 06:56 AM
|- - wstutt   I now have version 1.4 of my AAL77 FDR Decoder ava...   Nov 26 2009, 10:09 AM
- - rob balsamo   Thanks Warren... I see that the roll data still d...   Nov 27 2009, 05:46 AM
|- - tezzajw   QUOTE (rob balsamo @ Nov 27 2009, 07:46 P...   Nov 27 2009, 08:10 AM
||- - tnemelckram   QUOTE (tezzajw @ Nov 27 2009, 07:10 AM) O...   Nov 27 2009, 09:03 AM
|- - wstutt   Hi Rob, QUOTE (rob balsamo @ Dec 2 2009, 09...   Nov 28 2009, 08:53 AM
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- - rob balsamo   Hi Warren, Yes, I agree, positive roll means righ...   Nov 28 2009, 10:36 AM
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|- - rob balsamo   QUOTE (wstutt @ Nov 28 2009, 06:45 PM) (1...   Nov 28 2009, 08:14 PM
- - tnemelckram   Hi WStutt! Many thanks for all your work. Yo...   Nov 28 2009, 08:27 PM
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- - tezzajw   How can a plane land and be serviced at airports t...   Nov 29 2009, 02:14 AM
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- - Turbofan   Just to clarify: If the door latch was broken, or...   Nov 29 2009, 09:46 AM
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- - wstutt   I now have version 1.4.1 of my AAL77 FDR Decoder a...   Dec 10 2009, 02:07 AM
- - wstutt   I now have a AAL77 FDR Decompressor program availa...   Dec 12 2009, 09:24 AM
|- - JFK   QUOTE (wstutt @ Dec 12 2009, 08:24 AM) I ...   Dec 12 2009, 10:39 AM
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- - JFK   Warren, is it possible for you to add a few more p...   Dec 15 2009, 12:14 AM
|- - wstutt   QUOTE (JFK @ Dec 20 2009, 04:14 AM) Warre...   Dec 17 2009, 03:39 AM
- - JFK   Thanks for your reply Warren... I have been ...   Dec 28 2009, 03:24 AM
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