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Aal77 Fdr Decoder Program, Decodes almost 4 more seconds

wstutt
post Oct 21 2009, 07:57 AM
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I have created a new program to decode AAL77's raw FDR file.

I am making it available for download along with it's source code and some output files from the program.

You can read more about it here

It decodes almost 4 more seconds of data than what appears at the end of the NTSB CSV file.

I welcome suggestions for any more parameters you would like decoded or any other features you would like added.

I will also be discussing this on the J.R.E.F. "AA77 FDR Data, Explained" thread as well as here.

Warren.

mod edit: Although Pilots For 9/11 Truth do not have any reason to believe the above program is offered for any nefarious purpose, we felt the responsibility to add this disclaimer. Pilots For 9/11 Truth do not vouch for nor is responsible for any of the data provided above by Warren. Nor can we guarantee his program is free of malicious code. Download at your own risk.

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post Oct 29 2009, 10:56 AM
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I've finally had a chance to catch up on the latest GL rant and FDR decode after being away on vacation.
I'm not surprised to see all the drama and hype from the GL camp! (IMG:http://pilotsfor911truth.org/forum/style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif)

The four additional seconds seem to have stirred a few feathers with our GL friends and they now claim
the final RAD Alt. proves "AA77" hit the Pentagon! (IMG:http://pilotsfor911truth.org/forum/style_emoticons/default/laughing1.gif)

Well, if all their excuses in the past about "missing seconds, delays, DME error, bird strikes" wasn't enough
to make comedy of film of the year, this one just might!

From the analysis done on page one and my quick glance at the data, it seems that RAD Alt. does not share
any sort of relation to Pressure Altitude, Angle of Attack, or changes in accelerometer data.

Futhermore, if the GL's claim the final change in accelerometer data implies a smack into the Pentagon wall?

Where are the indications of hitting five light poles in the data prior to this "impact"? Surely and aircraft
hitting five light poles at 462 knots would show some tid-bit of info "eh"? (IMG:http://pilotsfor911truth.org/forum/style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif)

I mean all that smoke in the DOD video, but nothing registered in the FDR?! (IMG:http://pilotsfor911truth.org/forum/style_emoticons/default/blink.gif)

We can thank RearTreat for this funny one!
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rob balsamo
post Oct 29 2009, 01:25 PM
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QUOTE (Turbofan @ Oct 29 2009, 10:56 AM) *
Futhermore, if the GL's claim the final change in accelerometer data implies a smack into the Pentagon wall?


Whaaaa?

I just looked up the long accelerations... Are they claiming -1 G in long accel is the "impact"? Really?

... too funny... Remember when they thought the "impact" was so severe that it caused corrupt data? Now the impact is only 1 G?

Reducing thrust to flight idle quickly and deploying speed brakes would produce more of a deceleration. This would also be consistent with the initial data for a High G high performance turn reducing speed to Corner Velocity rapidly to vacate the area if in fact there was a flyover. Heck, a high performance stop on a short field would produce more. Full reverse, standing on the brakes. .etc.

I know CIT doesn't like to use the FDR or any govt provided data, but Warrens new decode, if accurate, is looking more and more consistent with a flyover than before.

Although technically this new data is not "govt provided" as only Warren has done the decode, has anyone verified the code yet?

No offense Warren, but the years it took you to design your claimed program, one could have just input numbers into a csv file based on trends, for 4 more seconds... I'm not surprised the "skeptics" are taking your information at face value. I'm sure if your data showed 100 feet RadAlt at last data point, the self-proclaimed skeptics would be much more skeptical, and perhaps even attacking you personally consistent with their observed behavior.

Wouldnt it be funny if Warren put this all together to once again prove how the "skeptics" aren't really skeptical at all when it comes to anything which may support the govt story? They are holding onto that RadAlt for dear life. Again, no offense Warren, but I don't know you, and i certainly do not have the computer expertise to verify your code, although i can work my way around computers pretty well.. i learned how to fly airplanes. All the analysis being done here is with the assumption your decode/data is valid. If its not, this is all moot.

Welcome back Tino! I'm sure the GL's missed you considering most of their life is spent behind their screens arguing with people who they think are nuts... they probably thought you were evading them, they have no concept of a real life...lol
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post Oct 31 2009, 04:33 PM
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QUOTE (rob balsamo @ Nov 3 2009, 06:25 PM) *
Whaaaa?

I just looked up the long accelerations... Are they claiming -1 G in long accel is the "impact"? Really?

... too funny... Remember when they thought the "impact" was so severe that it caused corrupt data? Now the impact is only 1 G?
The FDR is not capable of recording a higher deceleration. The range of accelerations the FDR can record is -1.0833G to 1.000G. Perhaps the deceleration the aircraft experienced was greater than what the FDR can record. It has also been suggested that the FDR recording the maximum deceleration is a sign that the accelerometer failed.

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Although technically this new data is not "govt provided" as only Warren has done the decode, has anyone verified the code yet?

No offense Warren, but the years it took you to design your claimed program, one could have just input numbers into a csv file based on trends, for 4 more seconds... I'm not surprised the "skeptics" are taking your information at face value. I'm sure if your data showed 100 feet RadAlt at last data point, the self-proclaimed skeptics would be much more skeptical, and perhaps even attacking you personally consistent with their observed behavior.

Wouldnt it be funny if Warren put this all together to once again prove how the "skeptics" aren't really skeptical at all when it comes to anything which may support the govt story? They are holding onto that RadAlt for dear life. Again, no offense Warren, but I don't know you, and i certainly do not have the computer expertise to verify your code, although i can work my way around computers pretty well.. i learned how to fly airplanes. All the analysis being done here is with the assumption your decode/data is valid. If its not, this is all moot.
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Again, no offense taken. It's exactly because I could have just created a csv file showing whatever I liked, that I provided the source code. I welcome verification and would like to help anyone who wants to verify my code.

Warren.
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- wstutt   Aal77 Fdr Decoder Program   Oct 21 2009, 07:57 AM
- - dMole   Thanks Warren. I noticed your post on Randi's...   Oct 21 2009, 08:58 AM
|- - wstutt   QUOTE (dMole @ Oct 26 2009, 01:58 PM) Tha...   Oct 21 2009, 04:16 PM
- - rob balsamo   Warren, At quick glance... Your last 4 seconds do...   Oct 21 2009, 09:56 AM
|- - rob balsamo   QUOTE (rob balsamo @ Oct 21 2009, 09:56 A...   Oct 21 2009, 10:36 AM
||- - wstutt   QUOTE (rob balsamo @ Oct 26 2009, 03:36 P...   Oct 21 2009, 05:30 PM
|- - wstutt   QUOTE (rob balsamo @ Oct 26 2009, 02:56 P...   Oct 21 2009, 05:25 PM
|- - rob balsamo   QUOTE (wstutt @ Oct 21 2009, 05:25 PM) It...   Oct 21 2009, 06:04 PM
|- - wstutt   QUOTE (rob balsamo @ Oct 26 2009, 11:04 P...   Oct 22 2009, 09:27 AM
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||- - wstutt   QUOTE (rob balsamo @ Oct 28 2009, 05:13 P...   Oct 23 2009, 04:57 PM
||- - rob balsamo   QUOTE (wstutt @ Oct 23 2009, 04:57 PM) Do...   Oct 23 2009, 05:56 PM
|- - wstutt   QUOTE (rob balsamo @ Oct 26 2009, 11:04 P...   Oct 26 2009, 02:15 PM
- - rob balsamo   Had some time to get this more precise.... For Ra...   Oct 21 2009, 03:42 PM
- - Domenick DiMaggio CIT   im curious to why warren says at other places the ...   Oct 22 2009, 03:40 PM
|- - rob balsamo   QUOTE (Domenick DiMaggio CIT @ Oct 22 2009, 0...   Oct 22 2009, 04:29 PM
||- - wstutt   QUOTE (rob balsamo @ Oct 27 2009, 09:29 P...   Oct 22 2009, 05:15 PM
|||- - rob balsamo   QUOTE (wstutt @ Oct 22 2009, 05:15 PM) No...   Oct 22 2009, 05:35 PM
||- - Domenick DiMaggio CIT   QUOTE (rob balsamo @ Oct 20 2009, 07:29 P...   Oct 22 2009, 05:38 PM
|- - wstutt   QUOTE (Domenick DiMaggio CIT @ Oct 27 2009, 0...   Oct 22 2009, 04:50 PM
|- - rob balsamo   QUOTE (wstutt @ Oct 22 2009, 04:50 PM) I ...   Oct 22 2009, 04:54 PM
|- - wstutt   QUOTE (rob balsamo @ Oct 27 2009, 09:54 P...   Oct 23 2009, 02:43 AM
|- - Omega892R09   QUOTE (rob balsamo @ Oct 20 2009, 07:54 P...   Oct 24 2009, 11:53 AM
|- - wstutt   QUOTE (Omega892R09 @ Oct 29 2009, 04:53 P...   Oct 24 2009, 03:40 PM
- - rob balsamo   So i decided to take a gander over at the romper r...   Oct 22 2009, 07:10 PM
- - Domenick DiMaggio CIT   bird strikes? you mean at some point he claimed a...   Oct 22 2009, 08:20 PM
|- - rob balsamo   QUOTE (Domenick DiMaggio CIT @ Oct 22 2009, 0...   Oct 22 2009, 08:37 PM
|- - Domenick DiMaggio CIT   QUOTE (rob balsamo @ Oct 20 2009, 11:37 P...   Oct 22 2009, 08:47 PM
|- - rob balsamo   QUOTE (Domenick DiMaggio CIT @ Oct 22 2009, 0...   Oct 22 2009, 08:53 PM
- - rob balsamo   This was too good to pass up and gives new meaning...   Oct 22 2009, 10:39 PM
- - rob balsamo   I see Mackey has written a long convoluted post ba...   Oct 23 2009, 02:40 AM
- - rob balsamo   That works Warren... thanks..   Oct 23 2009, 03:41 AM
- - wstutt   As I thanked apathoid on J.R.E.F., I would also li...   Oct 23 2009, 07:59 AM
- - Aldo Marquis CIT   Not to derail the thread here, but I was curious W...   Oct 23 2009, 03:32 PM
- - rob balsamo   I took a stroll through Randiland during my mornin...   Oct 24 2009, 08:37 AM
|- - Domenick DiMaggio CIT   QUOTE (rob balsamo @ Oct 22 2009, 11:37 A...   Oct 24 2009, 11:34 AM
|- - Omega892R09   QUOTE (Domenick DiMaggio CIT @ Oct 22 2009, 0...   Oct 24 2009, 11:47 AM
- - rob balsamo   Since the minions at Randiland are confused... i...   Oct 24 2009, 10:54 AM
|- - Omega892R09   QUOTE (rob balsamo @ Oct 22 2009, 01:54 P...   Oct 24 2009, 11:45 AM
- - rob balsamo   QUOTE (Omega892R09 @ Oct 24 2009, 11:45 A...   Oct 24 2009, 11:55 AM
- - rob balsamo   Looks like our good friend Mackey finally decided ...   Oct 24 2009, 06:01 PM
|- - rob balsamo   QUOTE (rob balsamo @ Oct 24 2009, 06:01 P...   Oct 24 2009, 10:54 PM
|- - rob balsamo   QUOTE (rob balsamo @ Oct 24 2009, 09:54 P...   Oct 26 2009, 05:09 PM
- - rob balsamo   DME 1 and 2 Distance is supposed to be updated eve...   Oct 26 2009, 03:50 PM
- - rob balsamo   I understand some are attempting to argue Pressure...   Oct 28 2009, 11:15 PM
- - Turbofan   I've finally had a chance to catch up on the l...   Oct 29 2009, 10:56 AM
|- - rob balsamo   QUOTE (Turbofan @ Oct 29 2009, 10:56 AM) ...   Oct 29 2009, 01:25 PM
|- - wstutt   QUOTE (rob balsamo @ Nov 3 2009, 06:25 PM...   Oct 31 2009, 04:33 PM
|- - rob balsamo   QUOTE (wstutt @ Oct 31 2009, 04:33 PM) Pe...   Oct 31 2009, 04:59 PM
- - painter   Yeah. I'd like to see this data independently ...   Oct 29 2009, 02:29 PM
- - Turbofan   QUOTE I just looked up the long accelerations... A...   Oct 29 2009, 05:28 PM
- - wstutt   I now have version 1.1 of my AAL77 FDR Decoder ava...   Nov 4 2009, 10:29 AM
- - wstutt   I now have version 1.2 of my AAL77 FDR Decoder ava...   Nov 19 2009, 08:04 AM
- - rob balsamo   Hi Warren, Thanks for posting the new csv file of...   Nov 20 2009, 02:37 AM
|- - wstutt   Hi Rob, QUOTE (rob balsamo @ Nov 25 2009, 07...   Nov 20 2009, 06:04 PM
- - wstutt   I now have version 1.3 of my AAL77 FDR Decoder ava...   Nov 23 2009, 06:56 AM
|- - wstutt   I now have version 1.4 of my AAL77 FDR Decoder ava...   Nov 26 2009, 10:09 AM
- - rob balsamo   Thanks Warren... I see that the roll data still d...   Nov 27 2009, 05:46 AM
|- - tezzajw   QUOTE (rob balsamo @ Nov 27 2009, 07:46 P...   Nov 27 2009, 08:10 AM
||- - tnemelckram   QUOTE (tezzajw @ Nov 27 2009, 07:10 AM) O...   Nov 27 2009, 09:03 AM
|- - wstutt   Hi Rob, QUOTE (rob balsamo @ Dec 2 2009, 09...   Nov 28 2009, 08:53 AM
- - Turbofan   No, you both have it wrong! Hani used his box...   Nov 27 2009, 10:28 AM
- - rob balsamo   Hi Warren, Yes, I agree, positive roll means righ...   Nov 28 2009, 10:36 AM
|- - wstutt   Thanks Rob, QUOTE (rob balsamo @ Dec 3 2009,...   Nov 28 2009, 07:45 PM
|- - rob balsamo   QUOTE (wstutt @ Nov 28 2009, 06:45 PM) (1...   Nov 28 2009, 08:14 PM
- - tnemelckram   Hi WStutt! Many thanks for all your work. Yo...   Nov 28 2009, 08:27 PM
|- - rob balsamo   QUOTE (tnemelckram @ Nov 28 2009, 07:27 P...   Nov 28 2009, 08:43 PM
||- - tnemelckram   Hi Rob! QUOTE (rob balsamo @ Nov 28 2009...   Nov 28 2009, 09:03 PM
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- - rob balsamo   Alright, there is something very strange with thos...   Nov 28 2009, 09:18 PM
|- - wstutt   QUOTE (rob balsamo @ Dec 4 2009, 01:18 AM...   Nov 29 2009, 05:45 AM
- - tezzajw   How can a plane land and be serviced at airports t...   Nov 29 2009, 02:14 AM
- - rob balsamo   Thanks for the explanation Warren. I had a feelin...   Nov 29 2009, 06:42 AM
- - Turbofan   Just to clarify: If the door latch was broken, or...   Nov 29 2009, 09:46 AM
- - tnemelckram   Hi All! After reviewing the Posts after the o...   Nov 29 2009, 12:30 PM
- - tnemelckram   Hi All! Thank you very much Warren! He g...   Dec 1 2009, 06:25 AM
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- - painter   Jefferson, you can't just copy and paste trunc...   Dec 2 2009, 01:00 PM
- - rob balsamo   Warren, can you please decode these parameters to ...   Dec 2 2009, 05:12 PM
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- - Jefferson   QUOTE (wstutt @ Dec 2 2009, 09:05 PM) It ...   Dec 2 2009, 05:29 PM
- - tnemelckram   Hi Jefferson and All! The erratic INS positio...   Dec 2 2009, 06:36 PM
- - Jefferson   QUOTE (tnemelckram @ Dec 2 2009, 10:36 PM...   Dec 2 2009, 08:40 PM
- - wstutt   I now have version 1.4.1 of my AAL77 FDR Decoder a...   Dec 10 2009, 02:07 AM
- - wstutt   I now have a AAL77 FDR Decompressor program availa...   Dec 12 2009, 09:24 AM
|- - JFK   QUOTE (wstutt @ Dec 12 2009, 08:24 AM) I ...   Dec 12 2009, 10:39 AM
|- - wstutt   Hi JFK, QUOTE (JFK @ Dec 17 2009, 03:39 ...   Dec 12 2009, 06:53 PM
|- - JFK   QUOTE (wstutt @ Dec 12 2009, 05:53 PM) Hi...   Dec 12 2009, 07:15 PM
|- - wstutt   Hi JFK, QUOTE (JFK @ Dec 17 2009, 11:15 ...   Dec 13 2009, 07:29 PM
- - tnemelckram   QUOTE I for one DO appreciate the time you have sp...   Dec 13 2009, 03:21 AM
- - JFK   Thank you Warren, You show the traits of a real ( ...   Dec 13 2009, 08:55 PM
- - JFK   Warren, is it possible for you to add a few more p...   Dec 15 2009, 12:14 AM
|- - wstutt   QUOTE (JFK @ Dec 20 2009, 04:14 AM) Warre...   Dec 17 2009, 03:39 AM
- - JFK   Thanks for your reply Warren... I have been ...   Dec 28 2009, 03:24 AM
- - wstutt   Hi JFK, QUOTE (JFK @ Jan 2 2010, 08:24 A...   Dec 29 2009, 02:38 AM
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