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Aal77 Fdr Decoder Program, Decodes almost 4 more seconds

wstutt
post Oct 21 2009, 07:57 AM
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I have created a new program to decode AAL77's raw FDR file.

I am making it available for download along with it's source code and some output files from the program.

You can read more about it here

It decodes almost 4 more seconds of data than what appears at the end of the NTSB CSV file.

I welcome suggestions for any more parameters you would like decoded or any other features you would like added.

I will also be discussing this on the J.R.E.F. "AA77 FDR Data, Explained" thread as well as here.

Warren.

mod edit: Although Pilots For 9/11 Truth do not have any reason to believe the above program is offered for any nefarious purpose, we felt the responsibility to add this disclaimer. Pilots For 9/11 Truth do not vouch for nor is responsible for any of the data provided above by Warren. Nor can we guarantee his program is free of malicious code. Download at your own risk.

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rob balsamo
post Nov 28 2009, 10:36 AM
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Hi Warren,

Yes, I agree, positive roll means right bank (right wing down). You can also cross-check this with heading change. The data conflicts with the ASCE damage report requiring a left bank of roughly 5 deg IIRC.

Unfortunately, I have no way to verify the other 11 flights in your data. However, the last flight does verify with our data.

I spoke with Ralph Kolstad (American 757 Capt) and Rusty (United 757 Capt), they verified and confirmed my article before i published it.

Also, it is not unusual to keep the cockpit door closed during flight. I have gone on many 4-5 hour flights never leaving the cockpit. I've even done many trips single and twin engine prop from NY to Florida, Memphis... etc, 8-10 hours of flying, with one pee break at midway point when stopping for gas. I know many pilots who go hours without leaving their seat.

Many pilots dont like to leave the flight deck. Its called "The Walk Of Shame" for a reason...lol

more on this here...
http://pilotsfor911truth.org/forum/index.p...&p=10779386

Also keep in mind, some of the previous flight locations if i recall were LA-ORD-MIA-IAD, These are relatively short legs. 2-3 hours. Hit the bathroom before boarding, bring your lunch (which most pilots do to save some cash and eat more healthy than airline food), and you never need to leave your seat. There is also plenty of room to stretch on a 757 Flight Deck.
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post Nov 28 2009, 07:45 PM
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Thanks Rob,

QUOTE (rob balsamo @ Dec 3 2009, 02:36 PM) *
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Also, it is not unusual to keep the cockpit door closed during flight. I have gone on many 4-5 hour flights never leaving the cockpit. I've even done many trips single and twin engine prop from NY to Florida, Memphis... etc, 8-10 hours of flying, with one pee break at midway point when stopping for gas. I know many pilots who go hours without leaving their seat.

Many pilots dont like to leave the flight deck. Its called "The Walk Of Shame" for a reason...lol

more on this here...
http://pilotsfor911truth.org/forum/index.p...&p=10779386

Also keep in mind, some of the previous flight locations if i recall were LA-ORD-MIA-IAD, These are relatively short legs. 2-3 hours. Hit the bathroom before boarding, bring your lunch (which most pilots do to save some cash and eat more healthy than airline food), and you never need to leave your seat. There is also plenty of room to stretch on a 757 Flight Deck.
You are correct about the short flights. The longest section of FDR data for all flights (engines on to engines off) is only 4 hours and 34 minutes. If the pilots never left the flight deck during the previous 11 flights, then it would appear to me that either:
(1) The flight deck door was never opened while the engines were running.
(2) The flight deck door open/closed state was not sensed and recorded correctly. e.g. The door sensor reports closed when the door is actually open.
(3) The flight deck door was opened, but for less than 4 seconds each time.

I am open to suggestions.

I have only just started reading through the thread you included a link to.

Warren.
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- wstutt   Aal77 Fdr Decoder Program   Oct 21 2009, 07:57 AM
- - dMole   Thanks Warren. I noticed your post on Randi's...   Oct 21 2009, 08:58 AM
|- - wstutt   QUOTE (dMole @ Oct 26 2009, 01:58 PM) Tha...   Oct 21 2009, 04:16 PM
- - rob balsamo   Warren, At quick glance... Your last 4 seconds do...   Oct 21 2009, 09:56 AM
|- - rob balsamo   QUOTE (rob balsamo @ Oct 21 2009, 09:56 A...   Oct 21 2009, 10:36 AM
||- - wstutt   QUOTE (rob balsamo @ Oct 26 2009, 03:36 P...   Oct 21 2009, 05:30 PM
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|- - wstutt   QUOTE (rob balsamo @ Oct 26 2009, 11:04 P...   Oct 26 2009, 02:15 PM
- - rob balsamo   Had some time to get this more precise.... For Ra...   Oct 21 2009, 03:42 PM
- - Domenick DiMaggio CIT   im curious to why warren says at other places the ...   Oct 22 2009, 03:40 PM
|- - rob balsamo   QUOTE (Domenick DiMaggio CIT @ Oct 22 2009, 0...   Oct 22 2009, 04:29 PM
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||- - Domenick DiMaggio CIT   QUOTE (rob balsamo @ Oct 20 2009, 07:29 P...   Oct 22 2009, 05:38 PM
|- - wstutt   QUOTE (Domenick DiMaggio CIT @ Oct 27 2009, 0...   Oct 22 2009, 04:50 PM
|- - rob balsamo   QUOTE (wstutt @ Oct 22 2009, 04:50 PM) I ...   Oct 22 2009, 04:54 PM
|- - wstutt   QUOTE (rob balsamo @ Oct 27 2009, 09:54 P...   Oct 23 2009, 02:43 AM
|- - Omega892R09   QUOTE (rob balsamo @ Oct 20 2009, 07:54 P...   Oct 24 2009, 11:53 AM
|- - wstutt   QUOTE (Omega892R09 @ Oct 29 2009, 04:53 P...   Oct 24 2009, 03:40 PM
- - rob balsamo   So i decided to take a gander over at the romper r...   Oct 22 2009, 07:10 PM
- - Domenick DiMaggio CIT   bird strikes? you mean at some point he claimed a...   Oct 22 2009, 08:20 PM
|- - rob balsamo   QUOTE (Domenick DiMaggio CIT @ Oct 22 2009, 0...   Oct 22 2009, 08:37 PM
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- - rob balsamo   This was too good to pass up and gives new meaning...   Oct 22 2009, 10:39 PM
- - rob balsamo   I see Mackey has written a long convoluted post ba...   Oct 23 2009, 02:40 AM
- - rob balsamo   That works Warren... thanks..   Oct 23 2009, 03:41 AM
- - wstutt   As I thanked apathoid on J.R.E.F., I would also li...   Oct 23 2009, 07:59 AM
- - Aldo Marquis CIT   Not to derail the thread here, but I was curious W...   Oct 23 2009, 03:32 PM
- - rob balsamo   I took a stroll through Randiland during my mornin...   Oct 24 2009, 08:37 AM
|- - Domenick DiMaggio CIT   QUOTE (rob balsamo @ Oct 22 2009, 11:37 A...   Oct 24 2009, 11:34 AM
|- - Omega892R09   QUOTE (Domenick DiMaggio CIT @ Oct 22 2009, 0...   Oct 24 2009, 11:47 AM
- - rob balsamo   Since the minions at Randiland are confused... i...   Oct 24 2009, 10:54 AM
|- - Omega892R09   QUOTE (rob balsamo @ Oct 22 2009, 01:54 P...   Oct 24 2009, 11:45 AM
- - rob balsamo   QUOTE (Omega892R09 @ Oct 24 2009, 11:45 A...   Oct 24 2009, 11:55 AM
- - rob balsamo   Looks like our good friend Mackey finally decided ...   Oct 24 2009, 06:01 PM
|- - rob balsamo   QUOTE (rob balsamo @ Oct 24 2009, 06:01 P...   Oct 24 2009, 10:54 PM
|- - rob balsamo   QUOTE (rob balsamo @ Oct 24 2009, 09:54 P...   Oct 26 2009, 05:09 PM
- - rob balsamo   DME 1 and 2 Distance is supposed to be updated eve...   Oct 26 2009, 03:50 PM
- - rob balsamo   I understand some are attempting to argue Pressure...   Oct 28 2009, 11:15 PM
- - Turbofan   I've finally had a chance to catch up on the l...   Oct 29 2009, 10:56 AM
|- - rob balsamo   QUOTE (Turbofan @ Oct 29 2009, 10:56 AM) ...   Oct 29 2009, 01:25 PM
|- - wstutt   QUOTE (rob balsamo @ Nov 3 2009, 06:25 PM...   Oct 31 2009, 04:33 PM
|- - rob balsamo   QUOTE (wstutt @ Oct 31 2009, 04:33 PM) Pe...   Oct 31 2009, 04:59 PM
- - painter   Yeah. I'd like to see this data independently ...   Oct 29 2009, 02:29 PM
- - Turbofan   QUOTE I just looked up the long accelerations... A...   Oct 29 2009, 05:28 PM
- - wstutt   I now have version 1.1 of my AAL77 FDR Decoder ava...   Nov 4 2009, 10:29 AM
- - wstutt   I now have version 1.2 of my AAL77 FDR Decoder ava...   Nov 19 2009, 08:04 AM
- - rob balsamo   Hi Warren, Thanks for posting the new csv file of...   Nov 20 2009, 02:37 AM
|- - wstutt   Hi Rob, QUOTE (rob balsamo @ Nov 25 2009, 07...   Nov 20 2009, 06:04 PM
- - wstutt   I now have version 1.3 of my AAL77 FDR Decoder ava...   Nov 23 2009, 06:56 AM
|- - wstutt   I now have version 1.4 of my AAL77 FDR Decoder ava...   Nov 26 2009, 10:09 AM
- - rob balsamo   Thanks Warren... I see that the roll data still d...   Nov 27 2009, 05:46 AM
|- - tezzajw   QUOTE (rob balsamo @ Nov 27 2009, 07:46 P...   Nov 27 2009, 08:10 AM
||- - tnemelckram   QUOTE (tezzajw @ Nov 27 2009, 07:10 AM) O...   Nov 27 2009, 09:03 AM
|- - wstutt   Hi Rob, QUOTE (rob balsamo @ Dec 2 2009, 09...   Nov 28 2009, 08:53 AM
- - Turbofan   No, you both have it wrong! Hani used his box...   Nov 27 2009, 10:28 AM
- - rob balsamo   Hi Warren, Yes, I agree, positive roll means righ...   Nov 28 2009, 10:36 AM
|- - wstutt   Thanks Rob, QUOTE (rob balsamo @ Dec 3 2009,...   Nov 28 2009, 07:45 PM
|- - rob balsamo   QUOTE (wstutt @ Nov 28 2009, 06:45 PM) (1...   Nov 28 2009, 08:14 PM
- - tnemelckram   Hi WStutt! Many thanks for all your work. Yo...   Nov 28 2009, 08:27 PM
|- - rob balsamo   QUOTE (tnemelckram @ Nov 28 2009, 07:27 P...   Nov 28 2009, 08:43 PM
||- - tnemelckram   Hi Rob! QUOTE (rob balsamo @ Nov 28 2009...   Nov 28 2009, 09:03 PM
|- - wstutt   QUOTE (tnemelckram @ Dec 4 2009, 12:27 AM...   Nov 29 2009, 07:28 AM
- - rob balsamo   Alright, there is something very strange with thos...   Nov 28 2009, 09:18 PM
|- - wstutt   QUOTE (rob balsamo @ Dec 4 2009, 01:18 AM...   Nov 29 2009, 05:45 AM
- - tezzajw   How can a plane land and be serviced at airports t...   Nov 29 2009, 02:14 AM
- - rob balsamo   Thanks for the explanation Warren. I had a feelin...   Nov 29 2009, 06:42 AM
- - Turbofan   Just to clarify: If the door latch was broken, or...   Nov 29 2009, 09:46 AM
- - tnemelckram   Hi All! After reviewing the Posts after the o...   Nov 29 2009, 12:30 PM
- - tnemelckram   Hi All! Thank you very much Warren! He g...   Dec 1 2009, 06:25 AM
- - Jefferson   I just looked at places on google maps where ...   Dec 2 2009, 12:45 PM
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- - painter   Jefferson, you can't just copy and paste trunc...   Dec 2 2009, 01:00 PM
- - rob balsamo   Warren, can you please decode these parameters to ...   Dec 2 2009, 05:12 PM
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- - Jefferson   QUOTE (wstutt @ Dec 2 2009, 09:05 PM) It ...   Dec 2 2009, 05:29 PM
- - tnemelckram   Hi Jefferson and All! The erratic INS positio...   Dec 2 2009, 06:36 PM
- - Jefferson   QUOTE (tnemelckram @ Dec 2 2009, 10:36 PM...   Dec 2 2009, 08:40 PM
- - wstutt   I now have version 1.4.1 of my AAL77 FDR Decoder a...   Dec 10 2009, 02:07 AM
- - wstutt   I now have a AAL77 FDR Decompressor program availa...   Dec 12 2009, 09:24 AM
|- - JFK   QUOTE (wstutt @ Dec 12 2009, 08:24 AM) I ...   Dec 12 2009, 10:39 AM
|- - wstutt   Hi JFK, QUOTE (JFK @ Dec 17 2009, 03:39 ...   Dec 12 2009, 06:53 PM
|- - JFK   QUOTE (wstutt @ Dec 12 2009, 05:53 PM) Hi...   Dec 12 2009, 07:15 PM
|- - wstutt   Hi JFK, QUOTE (JFK @ Dec 17 2009, 11:15 ...   Dec 13 2009, 07:29 PM
- - tnemelckram   QUOTE I for one DO appreciate the time you have sp...   Dec 13 2009, 03:21 AM
- - JFK   Thank you Warren, You show the traits of a real ( ...   Dec 13 2009, 08:55 PM
- - JFK   Warren, is it possible for you to add a few more p...   Dec 15 2009, 12:14 AM
|- - wstutt   QUOTE (JFK @ Dec 20 2009, 04:14 AM) Warre...   Dec 17 2009, 03:39 AM
- - JFK   Thanks for your reply Warren... I have been ...   Dec 28 2009, 03:24 AM
- - wstutt   Hi JFK, QUOTE (JFK @ Jan 2 2010, 08:24 A...   Dec 29 2009, 02:38 AM
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