Aal77 Fdr Decoder Program, Decodes almost 4 more seconds |

Oct 21 2009, 07:57 AM
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Group: Troll Posts: 255 Joined: 27-December 07 From: Brisbane, Australia Member No.: 2,603 |
I have created a new program to decode AAL77's raw FDR file.
I am making it available for download along with it's source code and some output files from the program. You can read more about it here It decodes almost 4 more seconds of data than what appears at the end of the NTSB CSV file. I welcome suggestions for any more parameters you would like decoded or any other features you would like added. I will also be discussing this on the J.R.E.F. "AA77 FDR Data, Explained" thread as well as here. Warren. mod edit: Although Pilots For 9/11 Truth do not have any reason to believe the above program is offered for any nefarious purpose, we felt the responsibility to add this disclaimer. Pilots For 9/11 Truth do not vouch for nor is responsible for any of the data provided above by Warren. Nor can we guarantee his program is free of malicious code. Download at your own risk. This post has been edited by rob balsamo: Oct 22 2009, 05:38 PM |
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Nov 28 2009, 08:27 PM
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Hi WStutt!
Many thanks for all your work. You have enabled Rob to take a huge leap forward. You seem to take a neutral position as to drawing conclusions. I think I understand why - one cannot see how your decoding program works so it has to be trusted implicitly by everyone regardless of their opinion. You can't appear to have an agenda and enjoy that kind of universal trust as an honest broker at the same time! I looked at your three decode files of what appear to be the plane's historical airport locations (Complete, Complete One Line and Complete One Line With Airport Locations). I was unable to tie them into the csv file for the last flight FDR data (Final Flight complete) by matching the bit or frame or whatever they are numbers. SO I am unsure exactly what the former three files represent, starting with their time frame, and more particularly how they tie in to the Final Flight data. But I did notice the final fourteen locations. Starting at fourteenth from last and going down the list, numbers 14 through 3 are Dulles Airport, which is where the last location would necessarily have to be to fit the Official Story. But then, next to last is "TISX","Henry E Rohlsen Airport","Christiansted, St Croix, U.S.V.I." Then last, intruigingly enough, is ,"KFVE","Northern Aroostook Regional Airport","Frenchville, Maine, USA". WHHHAAATTT!!! I see from the above Posts there are a total of eleven flights for *whatever this plane is* recorded in the FDR data.I gather from your posts that you have decoded them. ANd how the next to last flight ties into the last flight seems to be important. Theortically, the coordinates when the plane is shut down on the enxt to last flight should be at Dulles just as the coordinates for the last flight start at Dullles. So have you decoded the other flights? Could you make available at least the starting and final coordinates for each one of the prior ten flights? It might be interesting to see how they jibe. |
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Nov 28 2009, 08:43 PM
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But I did notice the final fourteen locations. Then last, intruigingly enough, is ,"KFVE","Northern Aroostook Regional Airport","Frenchville, Maine, USA". WHHHAAATTT!!! Whaaaaa is right..... KFVE is not served by American Airlines....not to mention the runway is only 4600 feet, nor can the airport provide services for a 757.... or.. .can it...... (insert twilight zone music here). Where is this "Complete One Line With Airport Locations" file? I cant find it on Warren's site. "Henry E Rohlsen Airport","Christiansted, St Croix, U.S.V.I. is also not served by American according to their website. Where is this data coming from? |
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Nov 28 2009, 09:03 PM
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Hi Rob!
Where is this "Complete One Line With Airport Locations" file? I cant find it on Warren's site. Where is this data coming from? Here's a link to the page with the download links for the three files I referred to in the Post including Complete One Line With Airport Locations. Both that file and the other files also appear to have INS type coordinates from which the location can be determined even without the airport names: http://www.warrenstutt.com/AAL77FDRPartial...iles/index.html EDIT TO ADD: The airport list also shows that the plane flew to American Samoa and Palau on what appears to be a South Pacific Tour and then to Barrow Alaska at some point in its doomed and checkered career. Also note that the St Croix location appears many times earlier on in the list of airports suggesting perhaps some kind of regularity about that location. This post has been edited by tnemelckram: Nov 28 2009, 09:14 PM |
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wstutt Aal77 Fdr Decoder Program Oct 21 2009, 07:57 AM
dMole Thanks Warren.
I noticed your post on Randi's... Oct 21 2009, 08:58 AM
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rob balsamo Warren,
At quick glance... Your last 4 seconds do... Oct 21 2009, 09:56 AM
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rob balsamo QUOTE (wstutt @ Oct 23 2009, 04:57 PM) Do... Oct 23 2009, 05:56 PM
wstutt QUOTE (rob balsamo @ Oct 26 2009, 11:04 P... Oct 26 2009, 02:15 PM
rob balsamo Had some time to get this more precise....
For Ra... Oct 21 2009, 03:42 PM
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rob balsamo QUOTE (wstutt @ Oct 22 2009, 05:15 PM) No... Oct 22 2009, 05:35 PM

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rob balsamo So i decided to take a gander over at the romper r... Oct 22 2009, 07:10 PM
Domenick DiMaggio CIT bird strikes?
you mean at some point he claimed a... Oct 22 2009, 08:20 PM
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rob balsamo This was too good to pass up and gives new meaning... Oct 22 2009, 10:39 PM
rob balsamo I see Mackey has written a long convoluted post ba... Oct 23 2009, 02:40 AM
rob balsamo That works Warren... thanks.. Oct 23 2009, 03:41 AM
wstutt As I thanked apathoid on J.R.E.F., I would also li... Oct 23 2009, 07:59 AM
Aldo Marquis CIT Not to derail the thread here, but I was curious W... Oct 23 2009, 03:32 PM
rob balsamo I took a stroll through Randiland during my mornin... Oct 24 2009, 08:37 AM
Domenick DiMaggio CIT QUOTE (rob balsamo @ Oct 22 2009, 11:37 A... Oct 24 2009, 11:34 AM
Omega892R09 QUOTE (Domenick DiMaggio CIT @ Oct 22 2009, 0... Oct 24 2009, 11:47 AM
rob balsamo Since the minions at Randiland are confused... i... Oct 24 2009, 10:54 AM
Omega892R09 QUOTE (rob balsamo @ Oct 22 2009, 01:54 P... Oct 24 2009, 11:45 AM
rob balsamo QUOTE (Omega892R09 @ Oct 24 2009, 11:45 A... Oct 24 2009, 11:55 AM
rob balsamo Looks like our good friend Mackey finally decided ... Oct 24 2009, 06:01 PM
rob balsamo QUOTE (rob balsamo @ Oct 24 2009, 06:01 P... Oct 24 2009, 10:54 PM
rob balsamo QUOTE (rob balsamo @ Oct 24 2009, 09:54 P... Oct 26 2009, 05:09 PM
rob balsamo DME 1 and 2 Distance is supposed to be updated eve... Oct 26 2009, 03:50 PM
rob balsamo I understand some are attempting to argue Pressure... Oct 28 2009, 11:15 PM
Turbofan I've finally had a chance to catch up on the l... Oct 29 2009, 10:56 AM
rob balsamo QUOTE (Turbofan @ Oct 29 2009, 10:56 AM) ... Oct 29 2009, 01:25 PM
wstutt QUOTE (rob balsamo @ Nov 3 2009, 06:25 PM... Oct 31 2009, 04:33 PM
rob balsamo QUOTE (wstutt @ Oct 31 2009, 04:33 PM) Pe... Oct 31 2009, 04:59 PM
painter Yeah. I'd like to see this data independently ... Oct 29 2009, 02:29 PM
Turbofan QUOTE I just looked up the long accelerations... A... Oct 29 2009, 05:28 PM
wstutt I now have version 1.1 of my AAL77 FDR Decoder ava... Nov 4 2009, 10:29 AM
wstutt I now have version 1.2 of my AAL77 FDR Decoder ava... Nov 19 2009, 08:04 AM
rob balsamo Hi Warren,
Thanks for posting the new csv file of... Nov 20 2009, 02:37 AM
wstutt Hi Rob,
QUOTE (rob balsamo @ Nov 25 2009, 07... Nov 20 2009, 06:04 PM
wstutt I now have version 1.3 of my AAL77 FDR Decoder ava... Nov 23 2009, 06:56 AM
wstutt I now have version 1.4 of my AAL77 FDR Decoder ava... Nov 26 2009, 10:09 AM
rob balsamo Thanks Warren...
I see that the roll data still d... Nov 27 2009, 05:46 AM
tezzajw QUOTE (rob balsamo @ Nov 27 2009, 07:46 P... Nov 27 2009, 08:10 AM

tnemelckram QUOTE (tezzajw @ Nov 27 2009, 07:10 AM) O... Nov 27 2009, 09:03 AM
wstutt Hi Rob,
QUOTE (rob balsamo @ Dec 2 2009, 09... Nov 28 2009, 08:53 AM
Turbofan No, you both have it wrong! Hani used his box... Nov 27 2009, 10:28 AM
rob balsamo Hi Warren,
Yes, I agree, positive roll means righ... Nov 28 2009, 10:36 AM
wstutt Thanks Rob,
QUOTE (rob balsamo @ Dec 3 2009,... Nov 28 2009, 07:45 PM
rob balsamo QUOTE (wstutt @ Nov 28 2009, 06:45 PM) (1... Nov 28 2009, 08:14 PM
wstutt QUOTE (tnemelckram @ Dec 4 2009, 12:27 AM... Nov 29 2009, 07:28 AM
rob balsamo Alright, there is something very strange with thos... Nov 28 2009, 09:18 PM
wstutt QUOTE (rob balsamo @ Dec 4 2009, 01:18 AM... Nov 29 2009, 05:45 AM
tezzajw How can a plane land and be serviced at airports t... Nov 29 2009, 02:14 AM
rob balsamo Thanks for the explanation Warren.
I had a feelin... Nov 29 2009, 06:42 AM
Turbofan Just to clarify:
If the door latch was broken, or... Nov 29 2009, 09:46 AM
tnemelckram Hi All!
After reviewing the Posts after the o... Nov 29 2009, 12:30 PM
tnemelckram Hi All!
Thank you very much Warren! He g... Dec 1 2009, 06:25 AM
Jefferson I just looked at places on google maps where ... Dec 2 2009, 12:45 PM
wstutt QUOTE (Jefferson @ Dec 7 2009, 04:45 PM) ... Dec 2 2009, 05:05 PM
painter Jefferson, you can't just copy and paste trunc... Dec 2 2009, 01:00 PM
rob balsamo Warren, can you please decode these parameters to ... Dec 2 2009, 05:12 PM
wstutt QUOTE (rob balsamo @ Dec 7 2009, 09:12 PM... Dec 3 2009, 08:30 AM
Jefferson QUOTE (wstutt @ Dec 2 2009, 09:05 PM) It ... Dec 2 2009, 05:29 PM
tnemelckram Hi Jefferson and All!
The erratic INS positio... Dec 2 2009, 06:36 PM
Jefferson QUOTE (tnemelckram @ Dec 2 2009, 10:36 PM... Dec 2 2009, 08:40 PM
wstutt I now have version 1.4.1 of my AAL77 FDR Decoder a... Dec 10 2009, 02:07 AM
wstutt I now have a AAL77 FDR Decompressor program availa... Dec 12 2009, 09:24 AM
JFK QUOTE (wstutt @ Dec 12 2009, 08:24 AM) I ... Dec 12 2009, 10:39 AM
wstutt Hi JFK,
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JFK QUOTE (wstutt @ Dec 12 2009, 05:53 PM) Hi... Dec 12 2009, 07:15 PM
wstutt Hi JFK,
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tnemelckram QUOTE I for one DO appreciate the time you have sp... Dec 13 2009, 03:21 AM
JFK Thank you Warren, You show the traits of a real ( ... Dec 13 2009, 08:55 PM
JFK Warren, is it possible for you to add a few more p... Dec 15 2009, 12:14 AM
wstutt QUOTE (JFK @ Dec 20 2009, 04:14 AM) Warre... Dec 17 2009, 03:39 AM
JFK Thanks for your reply Warren... I have been ... Dec 28 2009, 03:24 AM
wstutt Hi JFK,
QUOTE (JFK @ Jan 2 2010, 08:24 A... Dec 29 2009, 02:38 AM
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