Roosevelt Roberts Interview, Is this turn possible? |

Nov 4 2009, 10:24 AM
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Group: Private Forum Pilot Posts: 203 Joined: 11-November 06 Member No.: 223 |
It's easier to put the disjointed pieces together by reading the transcript. Leaving out all the um's and searching for the right words, it breaks down like this:
Roosevelt: coming from the 27 side heading east towards DC . . . it looked like it went over on the mall entrance side and turned around . . . . the plane . . . was facing west, so it went. . . southwest away from the Pentagon. . . around the lane one area, and it was like banking just above the light poles like. It was heading . . .back across 27. . . and it looks like . . . that plane was heading . . . southwest. http://www.atsadgrab.com/forum/thread382628/pg1 The purple-ish path is what Roosevelt surmised from what he saw - the plane flying away to the south-west. The red path combines what the north path witnesses saw and what Roosevelt saw. The radius is about 330 feet. (?) It's unlikely that Hani chickened out at the last second so let's assume somebody in the E4B was "flying" the 757 [or 737]. Assuming no pilot, can a 757 or 737 handle the g-forces to make that turn at a speed sufficient to stay in the air while making that turn? (IMG:http://img690.imageshack.us/img690/8973/rrflightpaths80.jpg) This post has been edited by chris sarns: Nov 4 2009, 10:30 AM |
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Nov 6 2009, 04:18 PM
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Group: Private Forum Pilot Posts: 203 Joined: 11-November 06 Member No.: 223 |
Subject shift noted.
How can you use government evidence of 757 parts to discredit my theory without discrediting your own? All 3 witnesses at the Citgo station said the plane flew into the Pentagon. Two saw it completely and one not totally. Sean Boger saw the plane hit the Pentagon. You did not mention that in 'National Security Alert' because you think someone deceived them into just thinking they saw what they saw. Your only first hand witness did not see the north path plane fly over the Pentagon. The plane he saw fly away to the south-west, could not have been the north path plane. |
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Nov 6 2009, 04:26 PM
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Subject shift noted. How can you use government evidence of 757 parts to discredit my theory without discrediting your own? Easily. You claim the plane hit and we provide scientific proof that it did not. Witnesses believing an impact at the Pentagon do not refute their placement of the plane on the north side proving it did not hit any more than witnesses of the WTC collapse who were deceived into believing the buildings fell due to the planes and subsequent fire refute the evidence for controlled demo. It is physically impossible for a plane on the north side to cause ANY of the physical damage. This is a scientific fact that you can not change Sarns. This is why I have a team of pilots and ALL of our published detractors unanimously supporting me on this fact. You have proven yourself irrational and deceptive and NOBODY supports you on this issue. Obviously logic, reason, facts, and science can not get through that cantaloupe over your skull due to your admitted personal grudge against us. You are intellectually bankrupt and this thread will go nowhere just like your ridiculous disintegrating 737 theory. |
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chris sarns Roosevelt Roberts Interview Nov 4 2009, 10:24 AM
Craig Ranke CIT Your interpretation is not what he is describing. ... Nov 4 2009, 02:08 PM
rob balsamo QUOTE (Craig Ranke CIT @ Nov 4 2009, 01:0... Nov 4 2009, 02:35 PM
chris sarns Rob,
Thank you for your reply. You answered my qu... Nov 4 2009, 04:02 PM
Craig Ranke CIT You see we have no problem acknowledging that ALL ... Nov 4 2009, 02:31 PM
Craig Ranke CIT You are wrong Sarns.
He said it flew to the Mall ... Nov 4 2009, 04:29 PM
chris sarns There was a problem with communication. When Aldo ... Nov 4 2009, 05:45 PM
Craig Ranke CIT QUOTE (chris sarns @ Nov 4 2009, 09:45 PM... Nov 4 2009, 06:02 PM
chris sarns QUOTE (Craig Ranke CIT @ Nov 2 2009, 09:0... Nov 4 2009, 06:27 PM
Craig Ranke CIT QUOTE (chris sarns @ Nov 4 2009, 10:27 PM... Nov 4 2009, 06:32 PM
Craig Ranke CIT QUOTE (chris sarns @ Nov 4 2009, 10:27 PM... Nov 4 2009, 06:59 PM
rob balsamo Landmarks trump cardinal direction every time when... Nov 4 2009, 04:40 PM
chris sarns QUOTE (rob balsamo @ Nov 2 2009, 07:40 PM... Nov 4 2009, 08:07 PM
Aldo Marquis CIT QUOTE (chris sarns @ Nov 5 2009, 12:07 AM... Nov 4 2009, 08:39 PM
Craig Ranke CIT Furthermore route 27 runs north alongside north pa... Nov 4 2009, 06:05 PM
Aldo Marquis CIT Flying into south parking it would have been going... Nov 4 2009, 06:31 PM
Craig Ranke CIT QUOTE (Aldo Marquis CIT @ Nov 4 2009, 10... Nov 4 2009, 06:46 PM
chris sarns QUOTE (Aldo Marquis CIT @ Nov 2 2009, 09... Nov 4 2009, 07:03 PM
Aldo Marquis CIT QUOTE (chris sarns @ Nov 5 2009, 12:03 AM... Nov 4 2009, 07:28 PM
chris sarns QUOTE (Aldo Marquis CIT @ Nov 2 2009, 10... Nov 4 2009, 10:12 PM
Craig Ranke CIT QUOTE (chris sarns @ Nov 5 2009, 03:12 AM... Nov 4 2009, 10:35 PM
Aldo Marquis CIT No no no, I get it.
CIT comes up with hard eviden... Nov 4 2009, 06:40 PM
chris sarns QUOTE (Aldo Marquis CIT @ Nov 2 2009, 09... Nov 4 2009, 07:14 PM
Craig Ranke CIT QUOTE (chris sarns @ Nov 4 2009, 11:14 PM... Nov 4 2009, 07:17 PM
Aldo Marquis CIT QUOTE (chris sarns @ Nov 5 2009, 12:14 AM... Nov 4 2009, 07:29 PM
Craig Ranke CIT QUOTE (Aldo Marquis CIT @ Nov 4 2009, 11... Nov 4 2009, 07:50 PM
rob balsamo QUOTE (Craig Ranke CIT @ Nov 4 2009, 06:5... Nov 4 2009, 10:41 PM
Craig Ranke CIT QUOTE (rob balsamo @ Nov 5 2009, 03:41 AM... Nov 4 2009, 10:50 PM
chris sarns This is yesterdays news. I scrapped that idea. I r... Nov 5 2009, 03:46 AM
Ligon QUOTE (chris sarns @ Nov 5 2009, 02:46 AM... Nov 5 2009, 01:33 PM
Craig Ranke CIT QUOTE (chris sarns @ Nov 5 2009, 08:46 AM... Nov 5 2009, 01:40 PM
painter QUOTE (chris sarns @ Nov 4 2009, 11:46 PM... Nov 5 2009, 02:30 PM
chris sarns QUOTE (painter @ Nov 3 2009, 04:30 PM) Th... Nov 5 2009, 06:03 PM
Craig Ranke CIT QUOTE (chris sarns @ Nov 5 2009, 10:03 PM... Nov 5 2009, 06:47 PM
chris sarns QUOTE There may be nothing about the north path th... Nov 5 2009, 08:17 PM
Craig Ranke CIT QUOTE (chris sarns @ Nov 6 2009, 12:17 AM... Nov 5 2009, 11:15 PM
Craig Ranke CIT Sarns you've got nothing.
You've got ZERO... Nov 4 2009, 07:14 PM
chris sarns QUOTE (Craig Ranke CIT @ Nov 2 2009, 10:1... Nov 4 2009, 07:28 PM
Craig Ranke CIT QUOTE (chris sarns @ Nov 4 2009, 11:28 PM... Nov 4 2009, 07:43 PM
chris sarns QUOTE (Craig Ranke CIT @ Nov 2 2009, 09:4... Nov 4 2009, 08:32 PM
Aldo Marquis CIT QUOTE (chris sarns @ Nov 5 2009, 12:32 AM... Nov 4 2009, 08:44 PM
Craig Ranke CIT QUOTE (chris sarns @ Nov 5 2009, 01:32 AM... Nov 4 2009, 09:35 PM
Craig Ranke CIT QUOTE (Craig Ranke CIT @ Nov 5 2009, 02:3... Nov 4 2009, 09:50 PM
Craig Ranke CIT Chris,
Eyewitnesses are fallible.
Not only that ... Nov 4 2009, 10:21 PM
chris sarns QUOTE (Craig Ranke CIT @ Nov 3 2009, 12:2... Nov 5 2009, 03:27 AM
Craig Ranke CIT QUOTE (chris sarns @ Nov 5 2009, 08:27 AM... Nov 5 2009, 01:30 PM
Aldo Marquis CIT And there you have it, Chris. Thank you so much pa... Nov 5 2009, 03:27 PM
Craig Ranke CIT Only researchers and truly objective scientists re... Nov 5 2009, 05:35 PM
Aldo Marquis CIT QUOTE You do misrepresent the facts about the Erik... Nov 5 2009, 08:44 PM
chris sarns QUOTE (Aldo Marquis CIT @ Nov 3 2009, 11... Nov 5 2009, 10:30 PM
rob balsamo QUOTE (chris sarns @ Nov 5 2009, 09:30 PM... Nov 5 2009, 10:58 PM

chris sarns QUOTE You did not ask them what the plane did afte... Nov 6 2009, 02:30 AM

Craig Ranke CIT QUOTE (chris sarns @ Nov 6 2009, 06:30 AM... Nov 6 2009, 03:00 AM


chris sarns QUOTE (Craig Ranke CIT @ Nov 4 2009, 06:0... Nov 6 2009, 03:46 AM

rob balsamo QUOTE (chris sarns @ Nov 6 2009, 01:30 AM... Nov 6 2009, 03:23 AM


Craig Ranke CIT QUOTE (rob balsamo @ Nov 6 2009, 07:23 AM... Nov 6 2009, 03:30 AM


chris sarns QUOTE (rob balsamo @ Nov 4 2009, 06:23 AM... Nov 6 2009, 03:42 AM

Craig Ranke CIT QUOTE (chris sarns @ Nov 6 2009, 06:30 AM... Nov 6 2009, 03:35 AM
Craig Ranke CIT QUOTE (chris sarns @ Nov 6 2009, 02:30 AM... Nov 5 2009, 11:22 PM
albertchampion CIT....would you please reveal this chris sams... Nov 6 2009, 12:29 AM
Craig Ranke CIT QUOTE (albertchampion @ Nov 6 2009, 05:29... Nov 6 2009, 01:43 AM

painter QUOTE (Craig Ranke CIT @ Nov 5 2009, 09:4... Nov 6 2009, 02:04 AM
chris sarns QUOTE (albertchampion @ Nov 4 2009, 03:29... Nov 6 2009, 05:24 AM
Craig Ranke CIT QUOTE (chris sarns @ Nov 6 2009, 10:24 AM... Nov 6 2009, 10:54 AM
painter I'm of the opinion that this board should not ... Nov 6 2009, 02:00 AM
albertchampion thnx for your response. Nov 6 2009, 02:28 AM
Craig Ranke CIT Psssst....Sarns.....ALL of the north side witnesse... Nov 6 2009, 02:40 AM
chris sarns QUOTE (Craig Ranke CIT @ Nov 4 2009, 05:4... Nov 6 2009, 03:34 AM
Craig Ranke CIT QUOTE (chris sarns @ Nov 6 2009, 07:34 AM... Nov 6 2009, 03:40 AM
chris sarns QUOTE (Craig Ranke CIT @ Nov 4 2009, 06:4... Nov 6 2009, 04:00 AM
Craig Ranke CIT Isn't it amazing how this Sarns guy has been p... Nov 6 2009, 02:48 AM
Skeptik [quote name='chris sarns' date='Nov 5 ... Nov 6 2009, 07:34 AM
chris sarns QUOTE (Skeptik @ Nov 4 2009, 09:34 AM) ... Nov 6 2009, 09:28 AM
Craig Ranke CIT It is physically impossible for a plane on the nor... Nov 6 2009, 10:48 AM
chris sarns QUOTE (Craig Ranke CIT @ Nov 4 2009, 01:4... Nov 6 2009, 11:47 AM
Craig Ranke CIT QUOTE (chris sarns @ Nov 6 2009, 03:47 PM... Nov 6 2009, 01:40 PM
Craig Ranke CIT For the record.....immediately after Sarns' th... Nov 6 2009, 11:15 AM
Sanders Isn't the official account very specific, from... Nov 6 2009, 12:22 PM
Craig Ranke CIT QUOTE (Sanders @ Nov 6 2009, 04:22 PM) Is... Nov 6 2009, 01:02 PM
chris sarns QUOTE (Sanders @ Nov 4 2009, 03:22 PM) Is... Nov 6 2009, 01:19 PM
Aldo Marquis CIT And so, this 757 landing gear...
And this 757 w... Nov 6 2009, 03:13 PM
Craig Ranke CIT Aldo since he agrees with the witnesses regarding ... Nov 6 2009, 03:32 PM
Aldo Marquis CIT Well the problem he runs into is why would you pla... Nov 6 2009, 03:41 PM
Craig Ranke CIT QUOTE (Aldo Marquis CIT @ Nov 6 2009, 07... Nov 6 2009, 03:53 PM
chris sarns QUOTE (Craig Ranke CIT @ Nov 4 2009, 07:2... Nov 6 2009, 09:59 PM
Craig Ranke CIT QUOTE (chris sarns @ Nov 7 2009, 02:59 AM... Nov 7 2009, 01:58 AM
chris sarns QUOTE (Craig Ranke CIT @ Nov 5 2009, 03:5... Nov 7 2009, 03:43 AM
Craig Ranke CIT QUOTE (chris sarns @ Nov 7 2009, 08:43 AM... Nov 7 2009, 02:16 PM
chris sarns You did not address the point which is: The plane ... Nov 7 2009, 10:08 PM
Craig Ranke CIT QUOTE (chris sarns @ Nov 8 2009, 03:08 AM... Nov 7 2009, 10:51 PM
chris sarns From the OpEd article:
"The eyewitnesses in ... Nov 7 2009, 10:54 PM
Craig Ranke CIT QUOTE (chris sarns @ Nov 8 2009, 02:54 AM... Nov 8 2009, 02:21 AM
chris sarns QUOTE (Craig Ranke CIT @ Nov 6 2009, 04:2... Nov 8 2009, 02:56 AM
painter QUOTE (chris sarns @ Nov 7 2009, 10:56 PM... Nov 8 2009, 01:14 PM
chris sarns You seem to think it's up to me to prove the p... Nov 8 2009, 09:20 PM
painter QUOTE (painter @ Nov 8 2009, 09:14 AM) Wh... Nov 8 2009, 10:48 PM
chris sarns ETC:
You keep asking me for evidence that the plan... Nov 9 2009, 01:29 AM
StefanS This conversation is a little comedic.
You seem t... Nov 9 2009, 01:39 PM
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