9/11: Pentagon Aircraft Hijack Impossible, FLIGHT DECK DOOR CLOSED FOR ENTIRE FLIGHT |

Nov 27 2009, 12:55 PM
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9/11: PENTAGON AIRCRAFT HIJACK IMPOSSIBLE
FLIGHT DECK DOOR CLOSED FOR ENTIRE FLIGHT (PilotsFor911Truth.org) - Newly decoded data provided by an independent researcher and computer programmer from Australia exposes alarming evidence that the reported hijacking aboard American Airlines Flight 77 was impossible to have existed. A data parameter labeled "FLT DECK DOOR", cross checks with previously decoded data obtained by Pilots For 9/11 Truth from the National Transportation Safety Board (NTSB) through the Freedom Of Information Act. On the morning of September 11, 2001, American Airlines Flight 77 departed Dulles International Airport bound for Los Angeles at 8:20 am Eastern Time. According to reports and data, a hijacking took place between 08:50:54 and 08:54:11[1] in which the hijackers allegedly crashed the aircraft into the Pentagon at 09:37:45. Reported by CNN, according to Ted Olson, wife Barbara Olson had called him from the reported flight stating, "...all passengers and flight personnel, including the pilots, were herded to the back of the plane by armed hijackers..."[2]. However, according to Flight Data provided by the NTSB, the Flight Deck Door was never opened in flight. How were the hijackers able to gain access to the cockpit, remove the pilots, and navigate the aircraft to the Pentagon if the Flight Deck Door remained closed?[3] Founded in August 2006, Pilots For 9/11 Truth is a growing organization of aviation professionals from around the globe. The organization has analyzed Data provided by the National Transportation Safety Board (NTSB) for the Pentagon Attack, the events in Shanksville, PA and the World Trade Center attack. The data does not support the government story. The NTSB/FBI refuse to comment. Pilots For 9/11 Truth do not offer theory or point blame at this point in time. However, there is a growing mountain of conflicting information and data in which government agencies and officials along with Mainstream Media refuse to acknowledge. Pilots For 9/11 Truth Core member list continues to grow. http://pilotsfor911truth.org/core.html for full member list. http://pilotsfor911truth.org/join to join. [1] Hijacker Timeline - http://pilotsfor911truth.org/forum/index.php?showtopic=17 [2] Common Strategy Prior to 9/11/2001 - http://pilotsfor911truth.org/pentagon.html [3] Right click and save target as here to download csv file with "FLT DECK DOOR" parameter. |
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Nov 28 2009, 08:00 PM
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I can't take any of this new information seriously because I am absolutely convinced that no commercial airliner hit the Pentagon. If the pilots and all other concerned members of this forum are saying that an airliner did in fact hit the Pentagon then you are all in denial. The governments contention is that the so-called airliner disintegrated - a preposterous notion. In fact the governments contention is that all four supposed airliners completely disappeared into the ground and into the rubble of the buildings. If this is so then how can there even be a black box to examine? It sounds very much like a dis-info ploy designed to confuse and divide. Trust none of it OK..............PD
PS....there were NO hijackers and there were NO commercial airliners............period !!! This post has been edited by de_Genova: Nov 28 2009, 08:03 PM |
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Nov 28 2009, 08:07 PM
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I can't take any of this new information seriously because I am absolutely convinced that no commercial airliner hit the Pentagon. If the pilots and all other concerned members of this forum are saying that an airliner did in fact hit the Pentagon then you are all in denial. The governments contention is that the so-called airliner disintegrated - a preposterous notion. In fact the governments contention is that all four supposed airliners completely disappeared into the ground and into the rubble of the buildings. If this is so then how can there even be a black box to examine? It sounds very much like a dis-info ploy designed to confuse and divide. Trust none of it OK..............PD Apparently you haven't been paying attention. You might want to try reading the whole thread before you toss out such baseless accusations. The POINT of the FDR is that it is a DATA set given to the public from an OFFICIAL source. It is damning in that it is a badly wrought FAKE proffered from officialdom. |
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Nov 28 2009, 08:23 PM
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So your agreeing with me then...............there were NO commercial airliners and NO hijackers at the Pentagon or at any other 9/11 location. And you are in agreement with me that the so-called FDR 'data' is nothing more than disinformation. You also agree with me that it is impossible for there to have been any black box at all because there was NO PLANE ? Right? That's all I was trying to affirm. No offence intended and there certainly was not any accusation involved in my post..................sorry for any misunderstanding..............PD
PS..........Several posts that I have read in this thread give tacit value to the governments position on the present piece of well crafted dis-information. The governments statement below should be given NO CREDENCE whatsoever. Regardless of the obvious falsity of the comments made, its designed to further plant into the minds of the ordinary layperson that a hijacking actually took place; that there were actually hijackers; that the Olsen calls were real; that everyone really was herded to the rear of the plane, etc., etc., etc. To even respond is to give the impression that the governments position in the present article is a real one. The government is solidifying their claim here that an actual hijacking took place, and that there really was a commercial airliner involved, and that it really did crash into the Pentagon. All they have to do later on is to acknowledge that they were in error on the 'data' - in other words they will claim a mistaken data translation. But the propaganda deed will have been done much to their satisfaction. Link: http://pilotsfor911truth.org/forum/index.php?showtopic=18405 (extracted): ......."On the morning of September 11, 2001, American Airlines Flight 77 departed Dulles International Airport bound for Los Angeles at 8:20 am Eastern Time. According to reports and data, a hijacking took place between 08:50:54 and 08:54:11[1] in which the hijackers allegedly crashed the aircraft into the Pentagon at 09:37:45. Reported by CNN, according to Ted Olson, wife Barbara Olson had called him from the reported flight stating, "...all passengers and flight personnel, including the pilots, were herded to the back of the plane by armed hijackers..."[2]. However, according to Flight Data provided by the NTSB, the Flight Deck Door was never opened in flight. How were the hijackers able to gain access to the cockpit, remove the pilots, and navigate the aircraft to the Pentagon if the Flight Deck Door remained closed?"......... This post has been edited by de_Genova: Nov 28 2009, 08:55 PM |
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Nov 28 2009, 08:38 PM
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So your agreeing with me then...............there were NO commercial airliners and NO hijackers at the Pentagon or at any other 9/11 location. And you are in agreement with me that the so-called FDR 'data' is nothing more than disinformation. You also agree with me that it is impossible for there to have been any black box at all because there was NO PLANE ? Right? That's all I was trying to affirm. No offence intended and there certainly was not any accusation involved in my post..................sorry for any misunderstanding..............PD Yes. It is obvious. If the Flight Deck Door was never opened, no hijacking and subsequent airliner crash occurred: Therefore this "EVIDENCE" given to the NTSB by the FBI allegedly having been found inside the Pentagon IS A PLANTED FORGERY -- an incriminating piece of evidence of a cover-up of the actual event. |
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Nov 28 2009, 08:55 PM
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Yes. It is obvious. If the Flight Deck Door was never opened, no hijacking and subsequent airliner crash occurred: Therefore this "EVIDENCE" given to the NTSB by the FBI allegedly having been found inside the Pentagon IS A PLANTED FORGERY -- an incriminating piece of evidence of a cover-up of the actual event. To be clear....the evidence presented in this thread has nothing to do with whether or not an airliner crash occurred. The evidence proving no airliner crash occurred is provided via the eyewitnesses presented in National Security Alert. The witnesses prove the physical black box that was allegedly found in the Pentagon had to have been planted there. But to take it a step further....there is no proof the data released by the NTSB really came from the physical black box that was allegedly found in the Pentagon. We can't give them the benefit of the doubt for anything since the INDEPENDENT evidence already proves their entire story a lie. This new discovery regarding the cockpit door parameter proves that their own data does not add up with their own story. It's a simple as that but entirely devastating to the official story. |
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Nov 28 2009, 09:07 PM
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To be clear....the evidence presented in this thread has nothing to do with whether or not an airliner crash occurred. Correct. QUOTE The evidence proving no airliner crash occurred is provided via the eyewitnesses presented in National Security Alert. Correct. QUOTE <snip> But to take it a step further....there is no proof the data released by the NTSB really came from the physical black box that was allegedly found in the Pentagon. We can't give them the benefit of the doubt for anything since the INDEPENDENT evidence already proves their entire story a lie. And to take that a step further still, we have no proof ANY black box was found at all, only "reports" emanating from sources already shown to be dishonest. QUOTE This new discovery regarding the cockpit door parameter proves that their own data does not add up with their own story. It's a simple as that but entirely devastating to the official story. Correct, their OWN data proves their account false (and has for 3 years in regards to the FDR) which leads some to wonder why? Is it simple incompetence, a botched cover-up attempt, or is there a potentially deeper implication? Why produce an FDR (or equally bogus security camera video) at all? |
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rob balsamo 9/11: Pentagon Aircraft Hijack Impossible Nov 27 2009, 12:55 PM
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Jupiter QUOTE The FLT DECK OPEN parameter was not added to... Nov 28 2009, 10:02 PM
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