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Inside The Whole Black Sparkly Universe., implications of the black hole universe theory.

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post Dec 26 2009, 01:15 PM
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What is a black hole?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Black_hole

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a black hole is a region of space from which nothing, including light, can escape.


Why?

The mass is greater than the volume of space can hold. It therefore, collapses in on itself, shrinking but maintaining its' original mass.

There is a new theory by Nassim Haramein, that everything has a black hole within its center, from atoms to galaxies, and the entire universe is within a giant black hole.

The big question, is if there is a huge amount of mass, in every atom, how can we even move matter?

The answer, i think, is in incredible smallness,
we know, by definition that a black hole must shrink in diameter.
We also know that massive things,
very far away, have little gravitational effect on us,
Perhaps, massive weights, if they are infinitesimally small,
have the same tiny effect as the gravitational force effecting us from gargantuan distant galaxies.

One can begin to see the entire universe down to the atom as just
a change in a logarithmic scale.
And indeed, it has been graphically shown to be such a scale, in
frequency vs diameter.
Atoms have a high frequency;
galaxies have a low frequency,
but the ratio remains the same, at all scales!

This confirms the theory of everything, having a black hole, of scale,
in the center of all things.

Even if one ignores frequency,
and just looks at mass vs diameter
a clear line can be shown for most "things" in our universe.

http://www.bigear.org/CSMO/Images/CS04/cs04p28l.gif

The thing about all of this,
is that we should look at black holes as mass, shrinking over time.
So there is no such thing, really, as a big or small black hole,
as they all are the same weight, in different stages of collapse, at any particular time.

So, if this avenue of thought,
has anything to it,
atoms would be older than stars,
because the diameter of the black hole inside (in the atom), has collapsed to the point where it no longer has a significant gravitational influence in our universe.

...much, much, more to come.

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post Dec 30 2009, 07:38 PM
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Nassim Haramein isn't the only one
with a black hole universe theory.

There is another too,
its called, the comedy recycling theory*.
(no, it's not a joke, it's a very real theory)

(edit) *it's actually called
The Completely-Recycling Theory (of the Entire Known Universe)
Sorry, i got confused by the author.

http://www.cr-theory.org/default.aspx#intro

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Back in late 1978-early 1979, I was wondering how gravity still emanated from a black hole. In my quest to uncover a reasonable answer, I stumbled over an idea from Einstein, which had been "hidden in plain sight" for many years. He said that matter bent or curved spacetime, and warped spacetime told matter how to move.


There are some very entertaining explanations,
of this theory,
in pdf format:

http://www.cr-theory.org/pdf/completely/co...y_cr_theory.pdf

Much on the inner workings of black holes.
very interesting reading!

Perhaps Einstein was right,
and the aether does not exist.
(the "fudge factor", was just an excuse,
for not considering torsion factors
in his equations)


...enough for now
next, laser light

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What is light?

Light is an electromagnetic wave (should be vortex),
that is visible only to the human eye through about 1 octave of
the huge electromagnetic spectrum. There are spectrum's of light, that we can't see, like infra-red and ultra-violet.
Incoherent light is natural light. Its' wave length (vortex length?) are of different spectrum's, radiating out at different intensities.
Coherent light is a minimal, usually specific, frequency of light,
made from a laser.

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if photons of light were fish,
incoherent light is like, lots of different sizes and types of fish, swimming everywhere.
Coherent light is like, a school of same size fish swimming together,
in the same direction.


next, the atom .

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speaking of light -- what interests me is the fact that no light enters the brain. we do not 'see' light of any frequency (to be precise). what we 'see' is the neurophenomonological consequences of receptors being stimulated by light frequencies to which they are sensitive, this stimulation translated into electromagnetic signals PERCEIVED as 'light' in the brain. this is true of all our senses of course.

but what is REALLY interesting is the question WHAT 'sees' (or 'senses')?
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QUOTE (painter @ Dec 31 2009, 08:17 PM) *
speaking of light -- what interests me is the fact that no light enters the brain. we do not 'see' light of any frequency (to be precise). what we 'see' is the neurophenomonological consequences of receptors being stimulated by light frequencies to which they are sensitive, this stimulation translated into electromagnetic signals PERCEIVED as 'light' in the brain. this is true of all our senses of course.

but what is REALLY interesting is the question WHAT 'sees' (or 'senses')?


I've been thinking about that a lot lately,
When we see, we are absorbing information.(photons)
these are changed into electricity,
which is basically absorbed by the brain,
which functions on electricity.

If we just had electrical receptors for eyes,
we wouldn't be able to see very far
(except at very high voltages).
So we have photon receptors that biologically
change certain frequencies of focused photons,
into electricity for the brain,
because photons travel further and straighter than electrons,
photons are more suitable for "seeing."

Now, the part of our brain that tries to make some sort of sense,
about what it "sees" is a completely different thing.
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i wonder if it is a 'part'

suspect not
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QUOTE (painter @ Dec 31 2009, 09:31 PM) *
i wonder if it is a 'part'

suspect not


The part of the brain, the visual cortex.

The "whole" that comprehends it,
is you, or me, or any individual, with at least one,
working eyeball and visual cortex.

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The atom.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zGMnC7B6qUQ

Atoms are very tiny and
99.9999+ of an atom is empty space.

All we know an atom by is its' electron shell,
which obscures the tiny inner proton of an atom in normal light,
without magnification.

So is the electron a particle going around a proton in a vortex?
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post Jan 1 2010, 09:29 AM
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I have found two, new, recent independent, theories,
that suggest that we live in a black hole universe,
everything has a black hole in its' center.

All well and good,
but how does a black hole, with so much mass,
weigh so little in an atom, or, so much in a star?
Sort of hard, when we can't even see them,
hidden in an electron cloud, around the proton or
the luminous plasma, above the surface of a star.

Keeping in mind, that the escape velocity of light,
is less than the gravity near a black hole,
means that, light in the vicinity of a black hole,
(no matter what size) will be pulled toward it.
...and the greater the concentrated of photons, the brighter.

So...
if a laser, in the visable light spectrum,
was shone on a piece of solid matter,
most of the coherent photons, would go right past the electron,
as the electron can only be in one place, at one time.
And, once they were past the electron, those photons, would be drawn to the intense gravity of the black hole within, concentrating towards it.

When a low intensity laser,
like a laser pointer, shines on a surface,
that light goes right past the surface electrons,
as photons that are not effected much by electro-magnetism.
But, those lasered photons, are attracted towards
the gravity of the black hole in the centers of the atoms,
concentrating, as they travel off into the huge
elongated distance caused by the intense gravity,
from the black holes, under the electron shell.

Since more photons are being "pulled" toward the black hole inside,
than are bouncing off the surface electron fields,
the atom is essentially "back lit" by the photons
traveling toward the brighter nucleolus
than the foreground material surface!

As well,
the intense gravity from the infinitesimally small black hole within,
stretches the space, between the electron fields, and the black hole.
So the laser photons have a very long way to go,
once they pass by the electron.
In this sense, the smaller something is,
the greater the area of space toward it.
The result of which, is gravitational lensing.

So, not only do we see the photons
going towards the black holes,
but they are intensely magnified at the surface of matter!

If one sets a fixed laser light on a surface,
all that light is bent toward the singularities,
like looking through the surface of water.
As you move your head the points of light, in that laser light,
traveling towards the black holes appear to move.
like moving your point of view above a magnifying glass.

****WOW****

This, confirms to me,
that within every atom,
is, at least, one, black hole!

And this confirms, also,
that we live in a black hole universe.

So Painter, in answer to your question,
what is it in us that sees?

Each one of us is the event horizon of our own personal black hole
drawing in all the information of this universe, that all exists,
within a black hole.

This also means that there is as much, within us,
as outside of us,
and each one of us, is just as important
as this universe,
is to each of us!

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Just to screw up all the black hole theories - now we've got the 'cold spot'.

Is the "Great Void" One-Billion Light Years Across the Imprint of Another Universe or a Statistical Error?
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post Jan 1 2010, 03:53 PM
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QUOTE (DoYouEverWonder @ Jan 1 2010, 06:10 AM) *
Just to screw up all the black hole theories - now we've got the 'cold spot'.

Is the "Great Void" One-Billion Light Years Across the Imprint of Another Universe or a Statistical Error?


Interesting article.

There are only two things happening in the universe,
infinite energy radiating spherically out,
into infinite absorbing tetrahedron space.
completely recycling.
In order for there to be more things,
there needs to be more space.

If the entire universe is on the inside of a giant black hole,
then the entire universe would have the properties of the inside of a black hole. Which means that it is self contained.
little can get out, little can get in.
Since, things going through space, experience time,
and the faster they go the more time slows for them,
could this mean that the speed of light has a variability, in our universe?

Then blue shifted things would be seeing a truer speed of light, there, than fast moving red shifted things, would "see" in their part of the universe,
and the universe is really more static in size,
and we have been misinterpreting the data.

Think about this,
if time slows down, distances would appear further.
like riding a bicycle, down a long hill into town,
and getting a flat,
and having to walk the rest of the way.

The time it should take has been stretched,
but the distance has stayed the same.

Another thought is that if we are in a black hole universe,
and black holes are spinning,
then there should be a north and south pole to the universe,
where, get this, outside our universe,
at its' poles are vortex(s),
where energy is being radiated, away.
(this may show up as a "cold" spot in the universal background microwave radiation.)

Another thought, due to the positive feedback loop
of a self replicating fractal geometry of the universe,
there would be areas of space, where there would be huge starless voids.

Just as there are parts of a "Spirograph" design where there will be no ink,
in that design.

cheers

(edit) added pictures of the very big and small.

and very small.



Clusters of galaxies are shaped like theorized shapes of the subatomic particles, that they are made from.

Looking inside the atom is
like looking into our universe.
an infinite pattern in divisibility, of finite space.

...and it's all black holes, up and down.

We exist in the center of the scale,
between the infinitely big
and infinitesimally small.
Time is the experience of travel
within the geometry of our scale.

so, there is a little infinity in all of us,
and that is what we each, are.
...taking it all in.

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Fascinating subject!
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Now that we have determined that we live in a black hole universe, say
is every black hole different within?
I think the answer to that must be yes, as this would give us
an infinite number of universes, all different, like snowflakes.
This would mean that another universe exists,
exactly the same as this one, but, with 1 atom out of place,
as, in the same way as, no 2 snowflakes are exactly alike.

This means that everyone of us,
is the center of our own universe,
somewhere, i guess,
...hmmm, that might be here,
in this one.

It's interesting, looking back how a small decision,
in the past, has changed the present, completely.
If that decision was different,
everything in the whole world
could be totally different today!

But if there are an infinite number of other different universes,
the other possibility, happened as well, somewhere else!

So, in a way, nothing actually happens,
and there is no such thing as time.
All possible occurrences must follow the structure of the geometric shape of the universe, so all possibilities must be occurring simultaneously,
in another universe, within another, finite but infinity dividable geometric fractal structure.

Where does that leave us?

That sort of gives us all, our freewill.
allowing everybody to follow any path they wish, through life,
but remember that at every decision, your universe,
will be changed in the future,
so it would be wise to have some sort of,
for lack of a better term, "moral" compass.
...or to just do the right thing.
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These ideas of this thread,
Inside The Whole Black Sparkly Universe,
is my spin on the combination, of the ideas,
and of the works of:

Neal Adams
paper:
http://www.nealadams.com/challenge.html
video:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oJfBSc6e7QQ

Nissam Haramein
Paper:
http://www.scribd.com/doc/19066321/Nassim-...ld-Proton-paper
video:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3VkuqDABTMo

Jerry Reynard
(*it is called the Comedy Recycling Theory!)
Paper:
http://blog.cr-theory.org/default,month,2009-12.aspx
video:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qRfKxm5JAMo

...just curving, lunk
(BTW. laser light shows the black holes in solid matter)
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Life inside a black-hole c-r

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YMsSu_rMtDg

"your inside is out, and your outside is in,
your outside is in, and your inside is out"
Everybody's got something to hide,
except for me and my monkey.
(Beatles)
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I've been thinking more on the idea of multi-universes,
an infinite number of slightly different universes, occurring simultaneously.
Consider this;
what if every possible scenario exists,
in the fractal nature of multiple universes,
so that every decisions that you made,
brought you into a different part of the fractal.

Where we all travel through the rigid, solid, geometric, structure
but the new universe that you constantly move into, changes, constantly, depending entirely on your decisions, through life.

So the choices you make, bring you through the fractal,
into a future universe, that will be different from all others,
but must follow sequentially, the geometric shapes that define space and matter.

In other word, there is only one of us, following all possible paths, going through multiple universes, simultaneously.

...am i making any sense?

I feel,sometimes, that there is only me,
and the universe.

Perhaps, you, are just me,
going through an infinite number of universes,
in my (your) own way, every way i (you) can.

...Now, i know, i'm not making sense.


Sunspot activity is down, below predicted estimates:



Earthquakes are inexplicably suddenly dropping in number:



Weird weather is hitting the planet:



I have to thank George Ure from urban survival, for keeping an eye out for these things.

I think that these, are some of the things Patrick Geryl predicted
would happen prior to his pole shift.
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QUOTE (lunk @ Jan 2 2010, 03:09 AM) *
(BTW. laser light shows the black holes in solid matter)


I have been looking more into the sparkles seen in laser light:
This has been a problem, found with most if not all visible laser light.
I think it is a property that distinguishes laser light from incoherent light,
but, some see it as a problem, with laser light:

Laser Speckle from Laser Pointer and Candle?
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Many common and inexpensive laser pointers now use laser diodes with excellent coherence properties so that laser speckle and other interference effects can be quite dramatic.

"I noticed an interesting animation effect when a laser pointer was pressed against the bottom of a red candle. While viewing through good reading glasses, the side surface of the candle was literally swimming with sharp grainy dots like a bad motion picture show. I've since observed these micro animations when illuminating other translucent objects, i.e., a white candle and white glass."


http://repairfaq.ece.drexel.edu/sam/laserioi.htm#ioilspc

This seems like the current explanation:

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This is most likely (theory) a form of laser speckle due to interference from the coherent light source. In the case of a translucent object (all solid objects) like a candle, the wax as well as unavoidable motion of the pointer, candle, glasses, and observer, (these motions can be avoided) results in varying path lengths and refractive effects which produce constructive and destructive interference at the retina of the eye - thus the constantly changing pattern of bright and dark spots(what dark spots?). A camera would also record the effect though the specific pattern and size of the dots would not be the same due to the different optics involved. (and there is more than one lensing devise, in a telescope)

Bolding and bracketed commentary, mine

The thing is, that nobody has thought that this effect could be explained better, as black holes, under the electron shell, pulling the coherent light,
through intensifying space curvature, causing the photons, relative light speed, to be lost, and the distance to the black hole(s) in the center of the surface atoms, under their electron shell, the light is shining toward, to become an incredible distance. (because the speed of light must slow down, the denser the space curvature becomes)

The effect of greater space time curvature,
is what we call, gravity.

At a certain point the space time curvature, becomes so great, that the speed of light becomes 0, for anything there.

This means time there, stops.

The distance, to anything, at this point,
becomes infinite,
because to travel any distance,
takes time.

So, greater gravity, means slower relative time, to areas of weightlessness.
(i wonder if this is another inverse square law)

The maximum speed of light would be at the center of the universe, the speed of light would be slower closer to the inside edge. This means that the red and blue shifted Doppler effect, seen in galaxies, may really be caused by the speed of light going slower or faster in different regions of the universe.
(i now wonder if the doppler effect,
has more to do, with sound, than light)

Anyhow, i think, that the more intense space curvature, near a black hole, has the effect of gravitational lensing, making everything under the surface, the laser is shining upon, act like a super powerful, fish eye lens.

Like a pinhole camera, everything in the picture has the same focal length.

(which appears further away, within,
the surface the laser is shining on)

As you move your perspective, the points of light shift a lot, like looking through a very powerful lens.

i really like the comedy-recycling theory.
it really explains much of what we see and experience, very well.

...just a speckle in the light
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Matter always wants to fall toward an area of space, where time moves slower.
It takes energy to move matter, into an area, where time moves faster.
Time will continue to move slower to the point where it stops. At this point, there will be no radiation or movement possible,
because these things take time.

The depth under the surface of the Earth, where space curves, to the point where time stops, is calculated (by Jerry Reynard) to be at about 2886 kilometers, straight down.
Below this depth, the space time curve becomes inverted, and it takes energy
to continue down towards the center. (which would now seem like up)

...if there is someone in the Andromeda galaxy was watching us, we would appear to be moving very slowly, and slightly shifted into the red spectrum.
Andromeda is blue shifted, because it is closer to the center of the universe than our Milky-way is, and light would travel faster in that galaxy, making it appear bluer, to us.

So, we don't have to worry about Andromeda crashing into our galaxy.

You see,
it's not the bright flash of light, that makes the tungsten glow, that sends electricity along the wire, which flips on the wall switch,

we got it all, on the hasp backwards.

LOL, i see why Jerry calls it the Comedy-Recycling theory.
It makes contemporary theories look absolutely hilarious.
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http://www.berkeleycitycollege.edu/faculty...in/ptpptnts.htm

Notice how the curve of each layer increases towards the center,
of this cutaway view of the Earth.

Down, is going toward the greater curvatures,
towards the maximum curvature.
As the curvature increases, time slows down.
It is experienced the same, at every level,
but time moves faster at less curvature,
and slower at greater curvature.
Even the speed of light, would be slower or faster,
depending on this amount of curvature.

Light coming from an area of space
where there is greater curvature,
should appear shifted into the red,
because it isn't moving as quickly,
as in our part of the universe.

Light shifted into the blue,
would mean that there is less curvature of space there,
and light travels faster there, than it does here!

Since most of the most distant galaxies are shifted into the red,
but there is an area of the sky that is shifted into the blue,
the Great Attractor, this would mean that our universe
has a light-speed gradient within it,
that slows, with the increased curvature of space.
Probably, to the point where it stops, and nothing can happen,
because there is no time left, at that amount of curvature.

Things there, have become, empty of time,
and nothing can ever happen there,
unless the curve of space changes.

It requires energy to move up, to a lesser curvature of space,
If it takes takes energy to move into lesser curvature,
where light moves faster, then that means,
that energy is being put into making the speed of light move faster.

...guess it takes energy to accelerate anything,
even the speed of light...

Doesn't this seem to make more sense
than galaxies moving away from us at near light speed?

(They are just in an area of space in our universe,
where the gravity curvature is greater and light travels slower.)

A long way away, mind you.
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QUOTE (painter @ Dec 30 2009, 02:17 AM) *
but what is REALLY interesting is the question WHAT 'sees' (or 'senses')?

Good question.

I here include two images of the same scene taken a few evenings ago at 23:52 local (UK) time.

The orange one, upper, is the as shot JPEG of snow with much sodium light on it, the orange is there in spite of the extreme white balance correction applied. Images under Sodium lighting can not be fully corrected in the camera because of the limited light wavelength available, i.e. most of the visible spectrum is missing.

The 'normal' looking one, lower, is the same picture (the camera was set to record RAW + JPEG) but applying colour correction in Adobe Lightroom on the RAW image so as to make it approximate to the scene as seen, and remembered. The corrected RAW image was then exported as a TIFF and converted to JPEG for web use. It is not a monochrome image as the small areas of tungsten lighting visible in the background shows.




For an excellent description of how we see I point you to 'Unweaving the Rainbow' by Richard Dawkins.

This will also help you to understand how other creatures can construct such a similar virtual model of the world around them using sound or heat.
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