The Government Has Your Baby's Dna, -= Baby's genetic blueprint to be in the government's possessi Options

[datars]

The government has your baby's DNA

February 4, 2010, CNN
http://www.cnn.com/2010/HEALTH/02/04/baby....ment/index.html

When Annie Brown's daughter, Isabel, was a month old, her pediatrician asked Brown and her husband to sit down because he had some bad news to tell them: Isabel carried a gene that put her at risk for cystic fibrosis. While grateful to have the information -- Isabel received further testing and she doesn't have the disease -- the Mankato, Minnesota, couple wondered how the doctor knew about Isabel's genes in the first place. After all, they'd never consented to genetic testing. It's simple, the pediatrician answered: Newborn babies in the United States are routinely screened for a panel of genetic diseases. Since the testing is mandated by the government, it's often done without the parents' consent, according to Brad Therrell, director of the National Newborn Screening & Genetics Resource Center. In many states, such as Florida, where Isabel was born, babies' DNA is stored indefinitely, according to the resource center. Many parents don't realize their baby's DNA is being stored in a government lab, but sometimes when they find out, as the Browns did, they take action. Parents in Texas, and Minnesota have filed lawsuits, and these parents' concerns are sparking a new debate about whether it's appropriate for a baby's genetic blueprint to be in the government's possession.

[nitatutt]

I more or less assumed this when I asked why the hospital was taking so much blood from my newborns.
Found out my state keeps the records for 27 years, nice.

Here's an abstract from The Journal of Medical Systems, Netherlands

Donor Research and Matching System Based on Data Mining in Organ Transplantation
Ali Serhan Koyuncugil1, Nermin Ozgulbas2

link: http://www.springerlink.com/content/v6u154p231w27321/

Anyone see what I see (just one of several implications) ?

Abstract

It is very important to identify the appropriate donor in organ transplantation under the time constraint. Clearly, adequate time must be spent in appropriate donor research in that kind of vital operation. On the other hand, time is very important to search for other alternatives in case of inappropriate donor. However, the possibility for determining the most probable donors as fast as possible has an great importance in using time efficiently. From this point view, the main objective of this paper is developing a system which provides probabilistic prior information in donor transplantation via data mining. While the sytem development process, the basic element is the data of successful organ transplantations. Then, the hidden information and patterns will be discovered from this data. Therefore, this process requires the data mining methods from its definition. In this study, an appropriate donor detection system design based on data mining is suggested.

[greenrayriver]

The Business of Being Born

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4DgLf8hHMgo


Another...good reason to have a home birth.

[Maha Mantra]

There was the story a few years back of DNA scientists dying mysteriously around the world. They had been working on gene specific bioweapons and their anedotes. I suppose if there is someone who has developed such weapons, then a database of who all has particular DNA and gene types might be useful.
I think it was along the lines of being able to target certain groups of peoples with similar DNA or genetic similarities, perhaps a particular race.
Maybe the developing scientists posed a threat of disclosure or knew a bit too much.
Isn't also that when we are born there is a form that classifies us as being legally bound to pay the national debt or something like that ? Kind of a way to give the fiat money system some backing I guess.
So I suppose there may someday be a global database with everyone's DNA and everything else and how we may be legally bound taxpaying serfs to what may be the global control dynasty.
Or maybe that was accomplished some time back.

So maybe with time, bioweapons could be refined in targeting, to an individual, who is totally known to the bioweapon handlers.

And we have heard about the need for a huge decrease in global population as well and the laws being forwarded that require us to submit to bioweapon anedotes or go to quaranteen camps and have our properties seized under martial law in advent of a bioweapon attack.

If an elite were to desire the preservation of the Earth for themselves, then one would think that areas of the globe that were using the most resources and causing the most pollution etc. would be prime targets for bioextermination.

So, ideally the better the control and targeting of bioweaponry, the more flexible the usage could be in various areas so as to be hard to detect, and against very specific profiles of peoples. Computerized and tailor-made biotoxins to control the savages at the frontiers of the empire.

[GroundPounder]

There was the story a few years back of DNA scientists dying mysteriously around the world. They had been working on gene specific bioweapons and their anedotes.

Robert Heinlein (the sci-fi writer) featured that theme in one of his books in the '60s

[Maha Mantra]

Robert Heinlein (the sci-fi writer) featured that theme in one of his books in the '60s

I think PNAC wrote the theme for 9-11 in their American Century document.

[nitatutt]

UC Berkeley Asking Incoming Students For DNA

http://www.ktvu.com/news/23592937/detail.html

[nitatutt]

from faux ... fair use, for education and discussion:

link: http://news.cnet.com/8301-13578_3-20005458-38.html


May 19, 2010 5:36 PM PDT

House votes to expand national DNA arrest database

by Declan McCullagh

Millions of Americans arrested for but not convicted of crimes will likely have their DNA forcibly extracted and added to a national database, according to a bill approved by the U.S. House of Representatives on Tuesday.

By a 357 to 32 vote, the House approved legislation that will pay state governments to require DNA samples, which could mean drawing blood with a needle, from adults "arrested for" certain serious crimes. Not one Democrat voted against the database measure, which would hand out about $75 million to states that agree to make such testing mandatory.

"We should allow law enforcement to use all the technology available to them...to reduce expensive and unjust false convictions, bring closure to victims by solving cold cases, better identify criminals, and keep those who commit violent crime from walking the streets," said Rep. Harry Teague, the New Mexico Democrat who sponsored the bill.

But civil libertarians say DNA samples should be required only from people who have been convicted of crimes, and argue that if there is probable cause to believe that someone is involved in a crime, a judge can sign a warrant allowing a blood sample or cheek swab to be forcibly extracted.

"It's wrong to treat someone as guilty before they're convicted," says Jim Harper, director of information policy studies at the Cato Institute. "It inverts the concept of innocent until proven guilty."

House Speaker Nancy Pelosi and the Democratic leadership scheduled Tuesday's debate on the bill--called the Katie Sepich Enhanced DNA Collection Act of 2010--using a procedure known as the "suspension calendar" intended to be reserved for non-controversial legislation.

"Suspension of the rules is supposed to be for praising the winner of the NCAA championship or renaming Post Offices," Harper says. "Things like collecting Americans' DNA are supposed to be fully debated in Congress."

In a surprise move, as the U.S. Congress was expanding the FBI's DNA database, the U.K.'s new coalition government was pledging sharp curbs on its own databases.

Created in the mid-1990s, the UK National DNA Database originally was supposed to store data on convicted criminals, but grew to include records on more than 5 million Britons, including many who were only arrested on suspicion of a crime.

U.K. Deputy Prime Minister Nick Clegg promised once-in-a-century privacy reforms in a speech on Wednesday: "We won't hold your Internet and e-mail records when there is just no reason to do so. CCTV will be properly regulated, as will the DNA database, with restrictions on the storage of innocent people's DNA. Britain must not be a country where our children grow up so used to their liberty being infringed that they accept it without question."

Background

The United States has followed a similar pattern: first, DNA was collected from convicted criminals, and then the practice was expanded to sweep in Americans arrested on suspicion of a crime.

A 2000 federal law called the DNA Analysis Backlog Elimination Act required that DNA samples be taken from anyone convicted of or on probation for certain serious crimes. This was challenged in court on Fourth and Fifth Amendment grounds, but a federal appeals court upheld (PDF) the DNA collection requirement as constitutional.

A second bill that President Bush signed in January 2006 said any federal police agency could "collect DNA samples from individuals who are arrested." Anyone who fails to cooperate is, under federal law, guilty of an additional crime.

In addition, federal law and subsequent regulations from the Department of Justice authorize any means "reasonably necessary to detain, restrain, and collect a DNA sample from an individual who refuses to cooperate in the collection of the sample." The cheek swab or blood tests can be outsourced to "private entities."

A May 2009 ruling from a federal judge in California was the first decision to say that police can forcibly take DNA samples from Americans who have been arrested but not convicted of a crime. U.S. Magistrate Judge Gregory Hollows said the requirement of DNA-sampling felony arrestees did not violate the Fourth Amendment's prohibition of "unreasonable searches and seizures"--but noted that he took no position on whether or not DNA sampling for misdemeanor offenses was reasonable and constitutional.

But that law applied only to federal agencies, and the bill approved this week would provide a strong incentive for state and local governments to follow suit.

If states do follow suit, it's difficult to overstate how many more DNA samples would flood into the FBI's Convicted Offender DNA Index System (CODIS) database. Federal agencies arrested about 133,000 people in 2004, according to data compiled by the Urban Institute under a Justice Department grant.

But local and state governments arrested nearly 14 million Americans that year, not counting traffic offenses, according to FBI data.

Rep. Teague's proposal would extend DNA sampling and testing to anyone arrested on suspicion of burglary or attempted burglary; aggravated assault; murder or attempted murder; manslaughter; sex acts that can be punished by imprisonment for more than one year; and sex offenses against minors. The attorney general would be required to report to Congress which states have and have not signed up for the DNA database.

Rep. Dave Reichert (R-Wash.), a former sheriff who spoke on the House floor in favor of the bill, said the measure is supported by the National Sheriffs' Association, the National District Attorney's Association, and the Rape, Abuse, and Incest National Network (RAINN).

The legislation would allow states to receive 15 percent "bonuses" from the Edward Byrne Memorial Justice Assistance Grant Program. The program gave out $165 million in local funding and $318 million in state funding for fiscal year 2009, not counting stimulus grants.

"We're strongly opposed to expanding collection," says Marc Rotenberg, executive director of the Electronic Privacy Information Center in Washington, D.C. He suggested the U.S. should follow the lead of the European Court of Human Rights, which ruled two years ago that holding DNA samples from people arrested but not convicted of a crime violates their privacy rights.

This post has been edited by nitatutt: May 21 2010, 01:59 AM