Life After Death! Options

[GroundPounder]

Please quote the whole paragraph in context, and we can go through it.
or as a shortcut, think about what the poor officer and members of the
firing squad would have to go through, then and for the rest of their lives,
when the obstinate deserter blindfolded is placed in front of the wall!



Cheers

that's one scenario...

[lunk]

If it wasn't for the space, around a point,
there would be,
no point.
Though, we see it as the points defining space.
a point is of infinite curvature.
Yet, science talks of the curvature of space-time,
not the point.
Smaller circles within smaller circles lead, eventually,
down to a point.
But this could go on, in scale forever, each point becoming a circle.
or in reality, a sphere.
So, the smallest thing in our universe is the point, which is really a sphere on a different scale, outside of our universe.
As a point shows position but has no area, or volume.
Because the point is the smallest thing possible in our universe,
anything smaller then a point would not exist, in our universe,
but it must exist, somewhere.
Theoretically, this could go on to infinity,
smaller spheres within spheres, forever.
The opposite should be true too,
the Earth becomes a point when seen afar in space.
The universe could be seen as a point too, from far enough away,
though, it ought to be, pretty dark.

What still exists, outside of time?
potential energy?
gravity?
electrical charge?
pointlessness?

[Tamborine man]

i found the book urantia, a little unbelievable,
(which probably isn't as bad as believable),
certain things did not jive with what i have found to be true.

it appears we all, eventually, pass away from this universe,
...though i'd like to somehow, avoid that...
but really, i think, this universe passes away
from us, and the dream becomes
a lucid reality.

Very nicely put, Lunk,

thanks and

cheers

[Tamborine man]

What still exists, outside of time?
potential energy?
gravity?
electrical charge?
pointlessness?

It will all be explained if you keep reading, Lunk.

I hope you Will!

Cheers

[Tamborine man]

that's one scenario...

What about emigrating or escaping or fleeing then, to another country

that hasn't got compulsory military service!!

Or get oneself some kind of disability or illness by "accident" perhaps?

I've heard that happened a lot!

cheers

This post has been edited by Tamborine man: Apr 26 2010, 11:50 AM

[GroundPounder]

http://www.isil.org/resources/introduction.html

why should i run?

why should i lie?

This post has been edited by GroundPounder: Apr 26 2010, 09:42 PM

[Tamborine man]

http://www.isil.org/resources/introduction.html

why should i run?

why should i lie?

Well, you shouldn't lie, of course.

Einstein wisely went to USA. Whether you would call it 'emigrated' or 'fled',
is neither here nor there.

He probably recalled the old saying: "When in Rome, do as the romans do",
- found that this was not really what he wanted to, and left.

If you stay, then the best you can do is help educate the population so that
they no longer chose unworthy leaders and lawgivers who obviously do not
have the best interest and well-being of the people in mind, but more serve
themselves!

This post has been edited by Tamborine man: Apr 26 2010, 11:29 PM

[lunk]

i am still of of the mind that there is only one consciousness,
at every level of awareness.
Like an intuitive level of thinking,
above the normal, within each of us.

Like rays from the sun,
each is an individualization
of the the same source.

The same center of the universe.
experiencing our universe,
from the individual perspective of all living things.

time for some music

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cPVBf2NywW0

[Tamborine man]

i am still of of the mind that there is only one consciousness,
at every level of awareness.
Like an intuitive level of thinking,
above the normal, within each of us.

Like rays from the sun,
each is an individualization
of the the same source.

The same center of the universe.
experiencing our universe,
from the individual perspective of all living things.

time for some music

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cPVBf2NywW0

I'm definitely of the same Mind too.

Your Love is as Good as my Love.

For how could it ever be otherwise.

Love IS Love.

No if's - no bit's - no but's.



Ahhh ....... the Music!

This post has been edited by Tamborine man: Apr 28 2010, 08:56 PM

[Tamborine man]

Hej Lunk,

you have probably seen this before, but please
pay special attention to the beautiful 'supercircle'
at 00.35 sec. into the video.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zkox6niJ1Wc


More on this subject later.

Cheers

[lunk]

This world seems to be in the process of a changing frequency.

There was some ancient music that was written in patterns like these,
molded into the architecture of a Scottish castle, i think.

[Tamborine man]

This world seems to be in the process of a changing frequency.

There was some ancient music that was written in patterns like these,
molded into the architecture of a Scottish castle, i think.

That sounds interesting.
Would love to have a look at that!

The following images shall just be seen as a little introduction.

After having learned how to draw the Supercircle, and got the measurements
to the Pyramid 'pretty' accurate (many years ago), I one day played around
with these two forms, and without really knowing what i was doing, this sketch
drawing on tracing paper was the result that came out of it.
Some time later, a year or more, i fell into conversation with 2 girls (both
installation artists) about 'sacred design'. One of the girls then introduced me to
a book called 'Sacred geometry' by Robert Lawlor.
I borrowed the book, and at home started to read it. When i came to the last page,
there was the refraction photo shown below.
At the same time, i had cleaned out one of my desk drawers, and my old sketch
was lying on top of some other paperwork on the desktop.
Impulsively and without thinking i took the sketch drawing and overlayed on the
photo and to my utter amazement saw that it was a near perfect match, as you'll
see here.

This became the first serious start to the next 26 years of trials and errors, and
that now has come to a happy end.

I still got the names of the, now, 2 ladies, that i'm sure would gladly confirm their
part in the above account.

I promised a few more drawings, which i will subsequently post.

A comment would be very welcome!


(IMG:http://img534.imageshack.us/img534/2116/atomrefraction.jpg)


PS!
I found the same refraction photo, in colour, in an old copy of 'National Geographic'
from february 1977. (Vol. 151, no. 2).

This post has been edited by Tamborine man: Apr 30 2010, 11:24 PM

[lunk]

Have you heard of Nassim Haramein?
he came up with the geometric shape,
that he calls, the iso-metric vector matrix.

The most important thing is that all vectors must be the same length.
It's sort of like a geometric Mandelbrot set,
that can be repeated, smaller and bigger,
inside and outside of itself.
Shrinking and growing into infinity.

The geodesic sphere, is made from a vector, overlapped, tetrahedron, folded out of itself.

[Tamborine man]

Have you heard of Nassim Haramein?
he came up with the geometric shape,
that he calls, the iso-metric vector matrix.

The most important thing is that all vectors must be the same length.
It's sort of like a geometric Mandelbrot set,
that can be repeated, smaller and bigger,
inside and outside of itself.
Shrinking and growing into infinity.

The geodesic sphere, is made from a vector, overlapped, tetrahedron, folded out of itself.

Hi Lunk,

No i don't think i've heard of this gentleman,Nassim Haramein.

Has it anything to do with 'The Golden Mean'? Would like to see it!

If you keep reading, you'll come to a description of 3 mighty empires that vanished
in the remote past. One of these was the land of Khuum then located in the eastern
part of Central Africa, SSW and SSE below of the Abyssinian Mountains.

One of their must sacred symbols was 'The many-seeing eye of Ra' as shown below.

The 2 middle size triangles have the apex degrees of 75º and 78º respectively.
The larger triangle's apex is 81º and the apex of the smallest triangle is 84º.

As the triangles get bigger and bigger along a 12º sloping route, their apex increases
in turn with 6º toward 174º - as, of course, they'll never reach 180º.
Similarly as the triangles get smaller, they too increase their apex with 6º increments,
toward an opposite 174º.

One can of course only imagine this scenario with the help of abstract thinking as these
triangles tends toward the infinite, but it's nevertheless a good exercise i think!

The triangle drawn with fatter line is The Great Pyramid in Giza.

(IMG:http://img59.imageshack.us/img59/5614/starsun.jpg)

(IMG:http://img46.imageshack.us/img46/7177/starsunexpansion.jpg)

This post has been edited by Tamborine man: May 2 2010, 03:52 AM

[Tamborine man]

Sorry, uploaded the wrong dwg.

This one gives a better picture and understanding!


(IMG:http://img232.imageshack.us/img232/9214/rhasunu.jpg)

This post has been edited by Tamborine man: May 2 2010, 03:59 AM

[Tamborine man]

Now that the talk is about Le Corbusier,

lets go further and have a look at his Modulor.

He wrote on page 235:
"....
But in philosophy (and I have no key to that austere science), I suspect that six thousandths of
a value have an infinitely precious importance: the thing is not open and shut. It is not sealed;
there is a chink to let the air in; Life is there, awakened by the recurrence of a fateful equality
which is not exactly, not strictly equal.......
....And that is what creates movement."


He continues:

"On the 4th of December 1948, Mlle Elisa Maillard brought me the answer of the compass, with
this note added in pencil:
´3 squares,
´4 circumferences,
´...diagonals of compartments, some of which are squares, the others golden rectangles.
´Pentalpha diagonals of two small circumferences, carried on outside the circumferences.

On the 12th of december 1948, I set the Maillard drawing and coloured it.
Into it I set the man-with-the-arm-upraised. I converted the rteading of the circles to
a reading of rectangles and squares.
...."

After that, he uttered the words quoted in the post further back.

Here you see Mlle Elisa Maillards drawing, and Le Corbusier's arm-upraised man drawn
later in same.

Neither Elisa Maillard nor Le Corbusier ever realized that the Modulor, Elisa created,
was in actual fact The Great Pyramid on the Giza plateau.

Look very closely:
The combined diameters of the 2 smallest circles added together, gives the exact baselength
of the pyramid under ground. (To be shown later).
The diameter of the middle size circle gives the height of the same Pyramid. As shown.
The diameter of the largest circle, gives the exact length of the side of the Pyramid.

Check it out very carefully ....... and meditate.

The philosophers stone, and Da Vinci to follow.



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recumbentupright

Bear with me. I'll try to upload a bigger image of the third drawing.
Sorry i'm not good at this!

This post has been edited by Tamborine man: May 2 2010, 08:03 AM

[Tamborine man]

Tried. Failed.

Going to sleep now.

Try again tomorrow.

Not feeling too good -

at the moment.

Cheers

This post has been edited by Tamborine man: May 2 2010, 08:31 AM

[lunk]

Where are we?
...like in our bodies?
Are we behind the eyes?
in the heart?
under the third toenail on the left,
(my left)?

The whole living body is a unit,
with an unknown location of the center of its' consciousness,
one would think is in the brain, but feels it's in the heart.
A center, that only exists in the present moment.

My toenail,
(ouch),
could fall off,
but i may still exist.

In our dreams, we can exist without our body,
though we dream, within our body.

yet, some day,
the body will cease to function,
and that center of consciousness,
no longer has that place of existence.

Seems to me, perhaps,
that without a living body, in the universe,
the universe itself,
becomes your body.
(which is what, i think, it probably is, anyway)

what happens after that,
is beyond the limitations of my present imagination.


Here is a link to a 4 hour lecture by Nassim Haramein
(starts, in earnest, about 8 minutes in)
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=6151699791256390335#

(he really gets into to the geometry)

[Tamborine man]

Look into your heart.
The center of everything.

The memory came back. Saw him long time ago ....... it seems.

Be patient, still.

More will be revealed.

Cheers

This post has been edited by Tamborine man: May 2 2010, 09:25 AM

[Tamborine man]

Damn.

Good night.

This post has been edited by Tamborine man: May 2 2010, 10:14 AM