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Life After Death!

23investigator
post Dec 28 2011, 10:43 PM
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QUOTE (elreb @ Dec 29 2011, 11:32 AM) *
Just to keep the record in alignment…I have no religious affiliations…

CONCLUSION:

None of the right wing, “War” mongering, hateful Christian bastards is listening to their “Lord & master”.

Our mission is to set the record straight and bring peace, tranquility and happiness to all man-kind and not to the corrupt few.

elreb

PSS: This is why Cyrus was the original Hay-Zeus...


Dear 'elreb'.

Thank you very much, for your prompt, courteous, answer to my question.

It is very much, as expected.

Plus, it is very powerfully and accurately expressed.

Lets hope, that those that need to, get the chance to read it.

Hopefully, taking some of it aboard.

But with 'respect', it should be pointed out, that before that can happen, we have got to stop all the noise in our heads, most of it "self generated", so we can learn to listen.

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post Dec 28 2011, 11:50 PM
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QUOTE (23investigator @ Dec 28 2011, 04:43 PM) *
But with 'respect', it should be pointed out, that before that can happen, we have got to stop all the noise in our heads, most of it "self generated", so we can learn to listen.

Precisely and as I expressed to brother Berry:

“It would be helpful to clear you mind of everything you were told in school, church and in the Media. Stand up, stand out and on some occasions…stand alone.”

The “Real” question is…who is listening? Or better yet…who wants to learn?

I find it puzzling that Tamborine Man opened my eyes to the gift of Light, yet questions the hidden meaning.

The enigma is in its simplicity.

Our “Passions” should remain “Immobile” and become nothing more than a footprint of our passing thru life.

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post Dec 29 2011, 09:31 AM
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i think, it is reality vs illusion.
People are born into the illusion of reality.
Enlightenment is the bright flash of reality, overwhelming the illusion.
And enlightenment, is a real flash of light, a "rush" of all visible light in the universe, into you.
Suddenly the universe becomes one, to you, and you are one, to the universe.
All illusion goes out the window, and it is all just the 2 of you.
Your creation, telling you, that it is your creation, not that you, are its creation.
...and then it disconnects, leaving itself (you) alone to figure out the right thing to do, in its (your) own creation.


...and you are back to chopping wood and carting water.

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post Dec 29 2011, 11:15 PM
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Could this be a under simplification…

A blind man does not need light to discover “Enlightenment”.

It is true that most Earthlings allow their brains to distort their senses…however “Wisdom” controls reality.

Illusion is beyond the normal 5 senses because you allow deception to overcome common sense.

Cognition provides its own awareness and is somewhat quantitative.

In Hawaii a common mesquite tree is call a “Kiawe” and the seeds can be used to make beer.

Everything is relative to knowledge!
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post Dec 30 2011, 12:42 AM
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Me questioning the hidden meaning of The Light??

- and here i thought i was given a little hand in revealing it for all to see!! wink.gif






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post Dec 30 2011, 01:19 PM
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QUOTE (Tamborine man @ Dec 29 2011, 06:42 PM) *
Me questioning the hidden meaning of The Light?? and here i thought i was given a little hand in revealing it for all to see!!

Let’s test the waters of Enlightenment

The War of the Messiah

Isaiah the prophet: [The thickets of the forest] will be cut down with an axe and Lebanon by a majestic one will fall. And there shall come forth a shoot from the stump of Jesse [the Branch of David and they will enter into judgment with [and the Prince of the Congregation, the Branch of David] will kill him by strokes and by wounds. And a Priest [of renown] will command [the slain] of the Kittim.

NOTE:

The Kittim were basically Mycenaean Greeks…

Quite unlike the Minoans, whose society benefited from trade, the Mycenaeans advanced through conquest


The story is an apocalyptic prophecy of a war between the Sons of Light and the Sons of Darkness.

The war is first described as an attack by the Sons of Light, consisting of the sons of Levi, the sons of Judah, and the sons of Benjamin, and the exiled of the desert, against Edom, Moab, the sons of Ammon, the Amalekites, Philistia, and the Kittim of Asshur, and [those who assist them from among the wicked] who "violate the covenant."

In the end, all of Darkness is to be destroyed and the sons of Light will live in peace for all eternity.

The war is described again as a conflict between the congregation of God and the congregation of men.

CONCLUSION

The War of the Messiah aka the “Majestic One” was none other than “Cyrus the Great”.

Cyrus the Great was also the “Perseus” of Greek mythology who defeated the Lydians, Medes and Babylonians to become King of kings. Perseus was born of a Virgin mother and was the son of Zeus. [Hay-Zeus]

Cyrus the Great was also Akhenaten…the founder of the “School of Light” [Aten-Ra].

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post Dec 30 2011, 02:51 PM
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QUOTE (lunk @ Dec 27 2011, 12:31 PM) *
Your creation, telling you, that it is your creation, not that you, are its creation.


Wow - existence beautifully and simply portrayed.
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post Dec 30 2011, 03:06 PM
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QUOTE (elreb @ Dec 27 2011, 02:50 AM) *
"It would be helpful to clear you mind of everything you were told in school, church and in the Media. Stand up, stand out and on some occasions…stand alone."

It took me while but after test driving many religious faiths including scientology I was finally able to wash my brain in the river, river.

Now I'm slip sliding through the 'how come my mind sparkles more than yours?' mud-bath stage.

Soon as I get over that my hat will be hanging in the 6th to 10th dimensions.

Unless that's another religion, too. rolleyes.gif
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post Dec 30 2011, 04:26 PM
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QUOTE (BarryWilliamsmb @ Dec 30 2011, 09:06 AM) *
Unless that's another religion, too. rolleyes.gif

A good philosopher encourages both scholars and the common citizen...to turn their attention from the outside world to the condition of humankind… concepts such as good and evil, right and wrong, virtue and vice, justice and crime, etc.

In this view, knowledge has a bearing on human life and should be placed highest with all other knowledge being secondary.

Organized Religion is a bad thing!
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post Jan 19 2012, 11:25 PM
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If there were no aggressor, there would be peace on Earth.

If all nations would limit themselves but to take care of their own,
first and foremost, there would be peace on Earth.

Aggression is alone caused by lust for power, with fear as its loyal
companion.

USA's excuse and justification for their wars of aggression toward
other countries, is done by trying to turn 'lust for power' into a
'virtue' by calling themselves 'liberators' instead of 'aggressors'.

This is as preposterous and idiotic as if Hans Christian Andersen
and Søren Kierkegaard would aggressively invade Norway and
Sweden in order to 'liberate' Henrik Ibsen and August Strindberg!

Insanity reigns the world. Death and destruction is the order of
the day.

Let me therefore in post to come, deal with the concept of "death"
and in simple terms try to bring some Light and clarity unto this
rather 'dark' and 'touchy' subject.






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post Jan 20 2012, 03:10 AM
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QUOTE (elreb @ Dec 28 2011, 07:26 PM) *
Organized Religion is a bad thing!

I agree and understand religion exists due to our need to project ourselves. Transference of major proportions.
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QUOTE (BarryWilliamsmb @ Jan 19 2012, 09:10 PM) *
I agree and understand religion exists due to our need to project ourselves. Transference of major proportions.

Belief and understanding are not exactly the same.

We all understand what earthquakes, volcanoes, hurricanes, tsunamis, floods, thunder and lightning are and require nothing more than preparation.

Organized religion, on the other hand is a tool to control the weak minded and rob them of their money.

“God” should be considers as all the good things in life…like…Sunshine and family.

When we are poor and must work constantly to keep the “Wolf” from the door…we live, learn and play with unexpected happiness.

We make do with whatever we have and the older children help the youngest ones.

Though bad times may befall us, we bear it as best they are able and make the most of the good.

Seriously…Ladies and Lad…”Wake up”
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post Jan 26 2012, 03:52 PM
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On belief and faith;
i think it all has to do with confidence, or self-confidence, you have to put your trust in yourself, and it is always tempting to give that responsibility to someone else.
And then if one loses their self confidence, what can they do?
Even talking to someone, takes confidence.
To regain ones' confidence takes time, work and personal achievements.

To actually find something, or someone, that is true, and worthy of putting ones faith into, is a very rare, but very helpful, for ones personal advancement.

But to put ones' faith in someone or something that is false, can destroy trust, faith and ones' personal confidence in their own judgment.

i still think, that creation keeps reminding each of us,
that we are, each, in essence, the lone living creator.
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post Jan 26 2012, 06:19 PM
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QUOTE (lunk @ Jan 26 2012, 09:52 AM) *
i think it all has to do with confidence, or self-confidence, you have to put your trust in yourself, and it is always tempting to give that responsibility to someone else.

I totally agree and would like to add self-worth.

I could care less about someone’s belief or faith.

Wisdom and knowledge come from your “Inside”…Listening, Feeling, Smelling, Tasting and Seeing the “Outside”.

What and who you are…is the identity you “Know” that you are.

I suggest that you like who you are
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post Jan 30 2012, 12:01 AM
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Are any of you acquainted with Julian Jaynes and his theory of bicameralism?
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post Jan 30 2012, 01:13 PM
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Let me give you an example: The Greek letter Psi and sometimes Psy is the basis of the word Psychology.

In early times, it was the “Trident” of Poseidon, the god of the Sea or master of water.

In Minoan Crete [Knossos] Poseidon is called “Enesi-daone”…which compares to Pho-enician which compares to Venetian.

Therefore, psychology refers to the application of knowledge once the mind reaches a high state of cognition.

The right brain and the left brain can communicate and I do not consider this to be schizophrenia. "Thoughts" should not be defined as “Voices”.

When you ask yourself, “How will my actions affect others”…is the mind of a rational thinker.

What if the mind were a Parliament? [Multiple mannerisms, attitudes and beliefs]
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post Feb 1 2012, 08:00 PM
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In multiple personality syndrome, the conscious is divided into separate personalities, who do not necessarily know of each others existence.
People who have separated their two half's of their brain, become two individuals in one, but the right eye can see what the left hand is doing.

That makes me think that we are all one divided consciousness.

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QUOTE (lunk @ Feb 1 2012, 02:00 PM) *
the right eye can see what the left hand is doing.

A rational brain can wear many Hats…this is not magic

Superintendent [Leader]
Parent
Spouse
Teacher
Student
Citizen
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Also actors sometimes need a little time to "get out of character" from the personality they are playing.
We are all parts of an over-mind, i think, or perhaps everyone is the overmind,
complete, but only aware of its individual, mortal experiences.
That, i think is the purpose, to gather experiences from this asymmetrical negative electron field universe.
In the "garden" of symmetry, we are one, with everything. Cast outside of perfection, each is one, in everything.

Everybody is a book in the writing, but they are really, unknowingly, the original authors and the librarian, for every other story, as well.

This post has been edited by lunk: Feb 2 2012, 06:21 AM
Reason for edit: punctuation.
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QUOTE (lunk @ Feb 2 2012, 12:01 AM) *
Everybody is a book in the writing...

In Hawaii we have the very rich, the very poor, the very smart and the very stupid.

Fortunately, religion holds a back seat…however…there is no collective “We”.

Speaking only for myself…I am so extremely complex…I have to pretend to be normal!

To speak and understand Hawaiian “Pidgin” is a giant step backwards, yet the native Hawaiian language [Ōlelo Hawaiʻi] is an endangered language that is a wonder and very expressive.

The right eye is in the hand of the beholder…
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