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post Apr 18 2010, 02:39 AM
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This subject brought up on the forum but I have lost just where it was, but this is worth hearing: Someone can post a link that knows how: Go to Youtube and in the search type: kenjams, a few down look for a video clip "purpose of chemtrails w AC Griffith 4-14-2010. I am not sure, but think it is an interview with former USAF Captain Joyce Riley who did a lot on Gulf War. It is a MUST hear. Seems credible, but I do not know who AC Griffith is.....well, others of you are probably more up to date. I just Googled AC Griffith, if you have not I invite you to.

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this one?
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EUGENICS.

1. They told us they would do it in REPORT FROM IRON MOUNTAIN,1967.

2. These are the same people who brought us fluoridated water, GMO, vaccines, pesticides, fertilizer, NBC weaponry, depleted uranium, HAARP and who knows what other mean technologies.

3. They are a different species.

4. They are preparing for a new population of workers.

5. They thrive on toxicity.
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[font="Times New Roman"]"The world is facing increasingly difficult challenges today. Population growth resulting in the growing demand for critical resources such as energy, clean water, food and medicine are taxing our fragile planet. To fulfill these needs we need disruptive technologies. We believe genomic advances offer the world viable, sustainable alternatives."[/font]


Very disturbing eugenics.


DISRUPTIVE

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QUOTE (tumetuestumefaisdubien @ Apr 16 2010, 11:38 AM) *
this one?
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Thanks for the video posting.This is fucking crazy.What is wrong with the U.S. military?

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Thanks very much for posting the video!
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Link for the Weather Modification program administered by the Texas Department of Licensing and Regulation.

http://www.license.state.tx.us/weather/weathermod.htm

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HARVESTING THE TEXAS SKIES IN 2009
A Summary of Rain Enhancement (Cloud Seeding) Operations in Texas

Projects in Texas
West Texas Weather Modification Association (WTWMA)
South Texas Weather Modification Association (STWMA)
Southern Ogallala Aquifer Rain (SOAR) Program
Edwards Aquifer Authority (EAA)
Southwest Texas Rain Enhancement Association (SWTREA)
Panhandle Groundwater Conservation District
Trans Pecos Weather Modification Association

Texas has a lengthy history of using cloud seeding to lessen the impact of periodic, often severe, droughts. Numerous “rainmaking” efforts sprouted during the epic drought of the 1950s, and some continued into the 1960s, giving impetus to the Texas Legislature to adopt a law, in 1967, governing the use of weather modification technologies. In ensuing years, both the State and federal governments provided funds for both cloud seeding research and assessing the impact of commercial weather modification projects.

With more substantive evidence that cloud seeding, when performed in timely and appropriate ways, could invigorate convective clouds, promoting their growth and capacity to produce rainwater, a coordinated, State-funded program began in earnest in the latter half of the 1990s. Today, with drought a pending, if not ever present, threat to the economy and well-being of Texans, rain enhancement projects flourish within large areas of Northwest, West, and South Texas. In fact, the seven cloud seeding projects today cover nearly 31 million acres (or about 18 percent of the land area of the state). When drought was a greater threat a few years ago, as many as 51 million acres were included in cloud seeding “target” areas.

Texas’ present-day cloud seeding efforts are much more than well-considered responses to drought, however. They are also concerted efforts, using the latest technological tools and understanding, to replenish fresh-water supplies in aquifers and reservoirs as well as to help meet the growing needs of agriculture, industry, and municipalities for fresh water. Political subdivisions like water conservation districts and county commissions have embraced the technology of rain enhancement as one element of a long-term, water-management strategy designed to ensure a growing population has enough water to meet its future needs.

Each of the cloud seeding projects uses specially-equipped aircraft designed to place seeding materials (in the form of pyrotechnic devices, or flares, containing silver iodide and other compounds) into convective towers (turrets of growing thunderstorms) to induce them to expand and process more atmospheric water. The seeding is achieved by burning flares either mounted on the wings of single and twin-engine aircraft or held in racks, and dropped (ejected), from the underside of the aircraft fuselage. Pilots in the aircraft are directed to convective clouds believed by the meteorologist to be treatable with the seeding agent. Timing and targeting are the two critical factors in successful seeding of young thunderstorms. The concerted efforts of both pilot(s) and meteorologist are designed to give the growing cloud a “nudge” to enable it to be more efficient in the way it uses available cloud droplets to grow raindrops.

Projects in Texas
As each of the rain enhancement projects became established in recent years, State matching funds were allocated to the sponsoring groups to enable them to procure needed hardware such as specially-equipped aircraft and ground-based radar systems. Each project initially constructed its program, either leasing or purchasing aircraft, at a cost of 8 to 9 cents per acre, with the State assuming up to 4.5 cents of that cost. Eventually, the State share of the cost declined, such that today virtually no residual State funds are used to sustain these programs. From the time the State began paying in part for the programs (1997) until State funds were exhausted (2004), the State contributed about $11.7 million. An additional $1.5 million in State funds was spent during that time to assess the projects’ performance.

No State funds are available now, for the remainder of the current biennium (which ends on August 31, 2009) for any cloud seeding operations in Texas.

The following is a description, by project, of rain enhancement operations conducted during 2009 in Texas.

West Texas Weather Modification Association (WTWMA)
This project, based in San Angelo, is now in its thirteenth consecutive year of operation. Its target is the third largest in the state---some 6.4 million acres in west central Texas between Midland and San Angelo. The WTWMA employs a full-time meteorologist and pilots using Doppler weather radar data produced by the National Weather Service. The meteorologist is based at Mathis Field, while aircraft are located at the San Angelo airport as well as several other locations within the target area.

The project is one of two in the state with a dual purpose: Permits are held by the WTWMA for both rain enhancement and hail suppression operations. The way in which the Association obtained its aircraft and radar, and hired its permanent staff, in 1997-98, to become self-contained as a project served as a prototype for other rain enhancement programs that materialized in Texas later on. The staff of the WTWMA can provide more information about this project (325-949-1950; meteorologist@wtwma.com).

South Texas Weather Modification Association (STWMA)
The project with its base of operations in Pleasanton (south of San Antonio) is now in its thirteenth year of operation, having been established in 1997 to seed clouds over a target area extending from the base of the Edwards Plateau to near the coastal bend area of Texas. The STWMA is an alliance of two water districts (Evergreen Underground Water Conservation District and the Live Oak Underground Water Conservation District) and a county commission. Seeding activities are directed by a staff meteorologist working with National Weather Service Doppler weather radar data from the airport in Pleasanton. Because the STWMA has ownership of all of the resources (technical and human) needed to execute rain enhancement operations at any time, the weather modification project runs on a year-round basis.

In 2002 the STWMA expanded its target area to absorb three of the counties previously in the cloud seeding target area of the rain enhancement program of the Edwards Aquifer Authority (EAA). The EAA reduced the size of its target area (now the primary drainage area for the Edwards Aquifer) and enlisted existing rain enhancement projects based in Pleasanton and Carrizo Springs to provide aerial and technical coverage for its newly-redefined target. As a result, the target area of the STWMA expanded by some 2.2 million acres, to the current 7.3 million, making it the state’s largest weather modification target. The EAA contracts with the STWMA for cloud seeding services in Bandera, Bexar, and Medina counties. More information on this project can be obtained by contacting the STWMA staff (830/569-4186; toddrf72@yahoo.com)

Southern Ogallala Aquifer Rain (SOAR) Program
The only rain enhancement project to have direct interface with interests in New Mexico is the SOAR project, based in Plains and operated by the Sandy Land Underground Water Conservation District (SLUWCD). Gaines, Terry, and Yoakum counties make up the Texas portion of the bi-state project, which encompasses some 2 million acres in eastern New Mexico as well as 2.1 million in Texas. Two of the counties (Terry and Yoakum) have had cloud seeding since the establishment of a program, in 1997, by the High Plains Underground Water Conservation District No. 1. Terry and Yoakum counties were a part of the 15-county HPUWCD weather modification project for five years until they formed the nucleus of the SOAR project in 2002.

Seeding activities for both areas of Texas and New Mexico are directed by a SOAR meteorologist based in Plains, where the aircraft are also headquartered. More information about the SOAR Program can be obtained by contacting the SLUWCD staff (806/456-2155; www.just-clouds.com).

Edwards Aquifer Authority (EAA)
The EAA first initiated its own rain enhancement effort in 1998, using an out-of-state contractor for seeding operations based in Hondo. Since its inception, the aim of the project has been to put additional water on the ground, and into the aquifer that is the sole source of water for several million people living in South Central Texas, including the metropolis of San Antonio. After four years of contracted services, the EAA in 2003 assigned portions of its “old” target area to two well-established and independently-run cloud seeding projects nearby. Since then, three of the counties in its redefined target have been served by the South Texas Weather Modification Association, while a fourth county (Uvalde) has been included in the target of the Southwest Texas Rain Enhancement Association (based in Carrizo Springs). The EAA office in San Antonio (800/292-1047; www.edwardsaquifer.org) can supply more information about its rain enhancement effort.

Southwest Texas Rain Enhancement Association (SWTREA)
The project begun in 1999 and run by the Winter Garden Groundwater Conservation District, based in Carrizo Springs, was the first of the seven existing weather modification projects to diversify into the suppression of hail. The SWTREA is an association of counties (Dimmit, LaSalle, Uvalde, Webb) which was expanded in 2002 to absorb Uvalde County, previously in the EAA target area. Today, its target area is the second largest of all of the Texas projects---some 5.8 million acres. It is the first hail suppression project in Texas to use aircraft for seeding thunderstorms since hail suppression activities in the Texas South Plains ended in 1977. The SWTREA maintains a staff operating out of the Pleasanton airport, where its meteorologist directs seeding operations using National Weather Service Doppler radar data and aircraft based out of Carrizo Springs. The SWTREA staff (830/876-3801; wxbliss21@yahoo.com) is the contact for more information on this project.

Panhandle Groundwater Conservation District (PGWCD)
A second large water district in the Panhandle region also conducts cloud seeding operations to enhance rainfall and, thus, augment groundwater recharge over the Ogallala Aquifer in the state’s northern extremity. This project, after being served in its initial year by a contractor, followed the path taken by earlier projects in Texas and in 2001 procured its own aircraft, radar, office facility, and support personnel. The PGWCD project has access to cloud systems moving out of Oklahoma into its target area, which currently consists of nearly 4.0 million acres in the eastern sector of the Texas Panhandle. The staff of the PGWCD (806/883-2501; jwright@pgcd.us) can provide additional information about this project.

Trans Pecos Weather Modification Association (TPWMA)
Texas’ newest rain enhancement project made its inaugural seeding flights in May 2003. The Association consists of the Ward County Irrigation District and other political subdivisions within Culberson, Loving, Reeves, and Ward counties. Its target area in that part of Texas along and west of the Pecos River consists of 5.1 million acres. TPWMA aircraft are based at the airport in Pecos, where a C-band radar is also situated. Seeding missions were directed by a staff meteorologist working from an office at the Yoakum County Airport in Plains. Additional information is available about this project through the Ward County Irrigation District in Barstow (432/445-6834; wcid1@pecos.net).

Contact Information
Individuals, or organizations, representing areas of the state not now engaged in cloud seeding but with an interest in doing so should contact George Bomar (512/936-4313; e-mail: gbomar@license.state.tx.us) of the TDLR about any, and all, weather modification permitting and licensing matters or for general information about cloud seeding technology.

http://www.license.state.tx.us/weather/summary.htm
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post Apr 18 2010, 05:55 PM
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I listened to the unabridged version of this interview, which doesn't add much but all the statements are heard in context. IMHO it doesn't pass the smell test. But then who can say for sure, maybe Israel has planted nukes all over Russia in retaliation for the nukes planted all over the USA , maybe there are mysterious big booms heard in all American cities that go unreported and are the result of Russia's aggression, maybe Israel has come to the rescue of America against Russia on several 'white-knuckle occasions' , and thank God for Israel.. God Bless Israel..yada yada..

Nothing much substantial on chem trails..

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QUOTE (JimMac @ Apr 18 2010, 10:55 PM) *
I listened to the unabridged version of this interview, which doesn't add much but all the statements are heard in context. IMHO it doesn't pass the smell test. But then who can say for sure, maybe Israel has planted nukes all over Russia in retaliation for the nukes planted all over the USA , maybe there are mysterious big booms heard in all American cities that go unreported and are the result of Russia's aggression, maybe Israel has come to the rescue of America against Russia on several 'white-knuckle occasions' , and thank God for Israel.. God Bless Israel..yada yada..

Nothing much substantial on chem trails..


Russia's agression? I imagine genociding 60 million Russians, Ukranians, Latvians and Lithuanians in the Wall Street\Western elite fomented Bolshevik Revolution might upset some. I am starting to wonder if everything we are seeing today regarding agitation with Russia isn't out guilt-fed fear for what the western elites did to Russia then. Russia has every right to be angry but the west still hasn't given up on collectively vilifying all Russians, the majority of which are probably not much diferent than you and me.

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QUOTE (Quest @ Apr 18 2010, 07:48 PM) *
Russia's agression? I imagine genociding 60 million Russians, Ukranians, Latvians and Lithuanians in the Wall Street\Western elite fomented Bolshevik Revolution might upset some. I am starting to wonder if everything we are seeing today regarding agitation with Russia isn't out guilt-fed fear for what the western elites did to Russia then. Russia has every right to be angry but the west still hasn't given up on collectively vilifying all Russians, the majority of which are probably not much diferent than you and me.


So i take it you're not buying that Israel (God bless) has nukes planted all over Russia in their cities either.. (as the interviewed gentleman states).
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post Apr 18 2010, 09:10 PM
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The chemtrails, or whatever you want to call them, seem to be most intense after solar prominences, they seem to align between populated areas and the sun.
We see a solar flare or CME in about 8 minutes.
It can take up to 3 days to get here.
Lots of time to spray filtering or reflective particles into the atmosphere.

The sun, i think is growing in intensity, perhaps it's just my eyes,
but on a sunny day i now have to wince, to see, because of its' brightness.

So, it happens that the chemicals they are spraying,
happen to be poisonous to humans,
they don't care, about us.

But hey, it fits with their depopulation program.

The thing is that they probably noticed, many years ago, that the sun was intensifying in its' radiation. The logical conclusion is that the Earth would heat up, however, there are other factors at work.

Cosmic rays, for instance, can
electrify the lower atmosphere and cause clouds, that shade, and cool the surface of the Earth.
Solar activity seems to be synonymous with geological activity on the Earth, corresponding with earthquakes and volcanoes.

i have a theory, that electrons, in the cosmic wind could cause clear sky's,
while protons in the cosmic wind causes clouds, when they hit the Earths' atmosphere.

Once again, just today, i saw a huge perfect arc of cloud, it looked so man-made, perhaps HAARP.

Shields up.

Of course, they feel it's best,
to put the blame on human activity.

...and they sure are trying to.
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The chemtrails are not regular cloud seeding, but may be used as a cover. Google search AC Griffith, interviews with Joyce Riley and other places. People are only threatened and murdered over something sinister. There should be no secrecy over anything like this with its potential harmful effects. That there is says more than any claim of safety or legitimacy. Couple the available information on chemtrails and other covert operations and lies it should come as no surprise.

"Is the military f-----crazy?" These programs are pulled off by a relative few with no sense or no conscience or both, but nevertheless, intelligent and capable. They are supported by people who are either afraid, or lack the courage to examine this issue-like 9/11- or they are just too comfortable with their view of the world and the US to have it rocked, but it is likely to get upset sooner or later, may as well be sooner-its better.
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QUOTE (michael72 @ Apr 18 2010, 11:37 PM) *
The chemtrails are not regular cloud seeding, but may be used as a cover. Google search AC Griffith, interviews with Joyce Riley and other places. People are only threatened and murdered over something sinister. There should be no secrecy over anything like this with its potential harmful effects. That there is says more than any claim of safety or legitimacy. Couple the available information on chemtrails and other covert operations and lies it should come as no surprise.

"Is the military f-----crazy?" These programs are pulled off by a relative few with no sense or no conscience or both, but nevertheless, intelligent and capable. They are supported by people who are either afraid, or lack the courage to examine this issue-like 9/11- or they are just too comfortable with their view of the world and the US to have it rocked, but it is likely to get upset sooner or later, may as well be sooner-its better.


With all due respect, i don't think you know who 'pulls off' these programs. Right now its 'we' (who know nothing), verses 'them' as Alan Watt says. Here we have a 'witness' who claims insider info, info that people are said to have died over. The tone of secrecy is drummed up by the well scripted channel hostess who reminds us that the speaker's life is endangered merely by his talking, and of course our listening to his rare information. Meanwhile, between the lines of nothingness, we hear Israel has planted nukes in Russia, and God bless them for doing it, because it's a white knuckled balance of terror, and your very next moment alive could depend on it. Thank God for Israel.
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There were persistent trails being made all day and night, here,

i guess they can't use those sprayn' planes in Northern Europe, with
all that Iceland volcano ash floating around.
i wonder if they re-route them to North America,

anyone notice any increase in air traffic, lately?
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QUOTE (michael72 @ Apr 18 2010, 11:37 PM) *
The chemtrails are not regular cloud seeding, but may be used as a cover. Google search AC Griffith, interviews with Joyce Riley and other places. People are only threatened and murdered over something sinister. There should be no secrecy over anything like this with its potential harmful effects. That there is says more than any claim of safety or legitimacy. Couple the available information on chemtrails and other covert operations and lies it should come as no surprise.

"Is the military f-----crazy?" These programs are pulled off by a relative few with no sense or no conscience or both, but nevertheless, intelligent and capable. They are supported by people who are either afraid, or lack the courage to examine this issue-like 9/11- or they are just too comfortable with their view of the world and the US to have it rocked, but it is likely to get upset sooner or later, may as well be sooner-its better.

I'm sure these cloud seeding programs could be used as cover for almost anything. However, these programs are not big secrets, even if the M$M and the government doesn't seem to want to educate the public about them. Probably, because the public reacted so badly when they ran the Medfly Eradication Program in Florida back in the 1990's.

This guy is deliberate disinfo meant to keep the story about what's really going on with weather modification in the 'conspiracy zone' and away from the general public.
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QUOTE (JimMac @ Apr 19 2010, 12:00 AM) *
So i take it you're not buying that Israel (God bless) has nukes planted all over Russia in their cities either.. (as the interviewed gentleman states).


I am saying Israel torpedoed, rocketed and strafed the USS Liberty intentionally. I am saying the are involved in a creeping genocide of the Palestinians. I am saying that the Israeli government, along with the US, GB and it's NATO allies, was involved in 911. I am saying we give Israel billions of dollars every year for "defense" yet US citizens have no say so in middle-eastern policy. I am saying you need to look into the Lavon affair and the King David hotel bombings. If you somehow believe all of this means the Israeli government is our friend, you, my dear sir, are in need a checkup from the neck-up. yes1.gif

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QUOTE (Quest @ Apr 19 2010, 12:39 PM) *
I am saying Israel torpedoed, rocketed and strafed the USS Liberty intentionally. I am saying the are involved in a creeping genocide of the Palestinians. I am saying that the Israeli government, along with the US, GB and it's NATO allies, was involved in 911. I am saying we give Israel billions of dollars every year for "defense" yet US citizens have no say so in middle-eastern policy. I am saying you need to look into the Lavon affair and the King David hotel bombings. If you somehow believe all of this means the Israeli government is our friend, you, my dear sir, are in need a checkup from the neck-up. yes1.gif


To be sure.

Just in case the point i was trying to make was a bit oblique, i think the guest speaker's pretense was the chem trails discussion, camouflage for the info he worked in about Israel, Russia, nukes, America under threat from Russia, and so on.. i think they call it cointell, but maybe that's the wrong label.
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Purposes of chemtrails

Eugenics
Over the horizon radar Torsional Vortex Imaging as Hoagland calls it
Cloud cover to alleviate global warming- Even lamestream media has brought up this geo-engineering effort

Bearden and his scalar weapons theme sounds like disinfo, why, well because Bearden is not dead. Far as Israel being our friend I don't think so.
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QUOTE (JimMac @ Apr 19 2010, 04:58 PM) *
To be sure.

Just in case the point i was trying to make was a bit oblique, i think the guest speaker's pretense was the chem trails discussion, camouflage for the info he worked in about Israel, Russia, nukes, America under threat from Russia, and so on.. i think they call it cointell, but maybe that's the wrong label.



Sorry, JM, I misunderstood your point. Carry on. handsdown.gif
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QUOTE (Quest @ Apr 17 2010, 03:39 PM) *
I am saying Israel torpedoed, rocketed and strafed the USS Liberty intentionally. I am saying the are involved in a creeping genocide of the Palestinians. I am saying that the Israeli government, along with the US, GB and it's NATO allies, was involved in 911. I am saying we give Israel billions of dollars every year for "defense" yet US citizens have no say so in middle-eastern policy. I am saying you need to look into the Lavon affair and the King David hotel bombings. If you somehow believe all of this means the Israeli government is our friend, you, my dear sir, are in need a checkup from the neck-up. yes1.gif



Quest with you there.
Jewish 'freedom fighters' used terrorist /insurgent tactics against the British to get their own homeland -Israel.Now they have their own country established they are going about the very deliberate , peace meal destruction of the idea of an internationally recognized Palestinian state and genocide of the Palestinian people.
For some reason in the U.K. amongst the general public and politicians there is a deluded belief that we have a special relationship with the U.S.!
The only country that the U.S.A. has a unique relationship with is Israel.
It would appear that north american politicians couldn't care less that Israel has been breaking United Nations resolutions since 1967 , yet whenever it suits them and their particular ends they quite happily start crowing about U.N. laws and resolutions that may or may not have been broken by another nation state.
One word -Hipocracy!

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