The So-called Greenhouse Effect Has Long Been Known To Be Devoid Of Physical Reality — Temp Variations Cause Co2 Changes — Not The Reverse’, U.S. Navy Meteorologist Claims: |

The So-called Greenhouse Effect Has Long Been Known To Be Devoid Of Physical Reality — Temp Variations Cause Co2 Changes — Not The Reverse’, U.S. Navy Meteorologist Claims: |
Apr 23 2010, 01:56 PM
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U.S. Navy Meteorologist Claims: ‘The so-called greenhouse effect has long been known to be devoid of physical reality — Temp variations cause CO2 changes — not the reverse’
http://www.prisonplanet.com/u-s-navy-meteo...he-reverse.html Dr. Martin Hertzberg Climate Realists Friday, April 23, 2010 Hockey Sticks and “Climategate”: a Death of Scientific Integrity Dr. Martin Hertzberg of Copper Mountain, a retired research scientist and consultant in the causes and prevention of accidental fires and explosions, will present the above titled talk at this month’s meeting of the Café Scientifique. The meeting will be held at 7:00 PM on Tuesday, April 27th at the Summit County Senior and Community Center, 151 Peak One Blvd, Frisco, Colorado. Dr. Hertzberg also served as a forecasting and research meteorologist while on active duty with the U. S. Navy. He has been studying the “global warming/climate change” issue for over twenty years and has published papers and articles on the subject. The presentation will be in two parts: the first will discuss the theory that human emission of CO2 is causing dangerous global warming or climate change and that drastic measures of “carbon control” are needed. That discussion will be prefaced by a showing of a condensed version of the documentary “Not Evil, Just Wrong”, followed by a summation of the available data that shows that the theory is false. The evolution of two fraudulently concocted “hockey sticks” is revealed: one for the average temperature of the earth’s atmosphere, and the other for the atmospheric CO2 concentration. They are discussed in the context of the recent disclosures of the e-mail correspondence among the various global warming advocates: the so-called “climategate” scandal. The e-mails reveal an appalling lack of scientific integrity on the part of those advocates. (ARTICLE CONTINUES BELOW) The second part of the presentation will be prefaced by a showing of a brief film entitled “Unstoppable Solar Cycles”, which will be followed by a summation of much of the available data that elaborates on the real causes of global warmings, global coolings and climate change. Those cycles are controlled by solar activity on the time scale of decades to hundreds of years, and by variations in the properties of the earth’s orbit around the sun on the longer time scale of tens to hundreds of thousands of years. Variations in solar activity modulate the intensity of cosmic rays impacting the earth’s atmosphere. Cosmic ray ionization provides nucleating agents for cloud formation. The cosmic ray flux measured at our own Climax mine correlates precisely with the earth’s total low level cloud coverage, as measured from satellites. Dr. Hertzberg’s analysis of the radiative equilibrium between the sun, the earth, and free space, confirms that all the temperature variations of the last century are readily explained in terms of those modest changes in cloudiness that are observed to correlate with solar activity. Global warmings result in an increase in atmospheric CO2 as warmed oceans emit their dissolved CO2. Global coolings result in a decrease in atmospheric CO2 as cooling oceans absorb atmospheric CO2. Temperature variations precede those CO2 variations by several hundred to a thousand years, thus indicating that it is the temperature variations that cause atmospheric CO2 changes and not the reverse. The human contribution to the cycle is trivial and furthermore the so-called “greenhouse effect”, touted as the mechanism by which atmospheric CO2 controls weather, has long been known to be devoid of physical reality. Accordingly, proposed measures of “carbon control” will have no effect on the weather but instead will seriously damage the Nation’s economy and the reliability of its electric generating capacity: a system that is currently working quite satisfactorily and is entirely independent of foreign sources of energy. Clearly, that system for supplying the Nation with its essential need for reliable electricity “ain’t broke”…and “if it ain’t broke, don’t fix it!” |
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Apr 24 2010, 11:40 AM
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Still not studied the science yet then Quest or the debunking of both Climategate and the attempts at discrediting Mann's Hockey Stick graph.
Two of the many problems with the McIntyre hokey on the hockey stick is that one, corrections made because of the small error McIntyre stomped about made little difference the the graph and second, there were numerous other graphs produced from alternative data sets and they all agreed in trends with Mann's hockey stick. Still I guess I will just have to keep at this ground-hog day scenario and keeping whacking these moles as they pop up again and again and again. Monckton is a snake-oil salesman who's tours are paid for by the many 'Institututes' of corruption. It should be becoming clear to you by now, should you at least read stuff from reliable sources, that measures to combat the very real dangers of climate change would be beneficial to the US economy and national security. Otherwise let the likes of Blankenship keep blowing tops off mountains and killing people directly and indirectly through poisoned water so that coal and power companies can keep raking in profits as they role out a fleet of dirty, old tech, coal burners. Your cheap electricity comes at a dreadful real cost to people all over. Perhaps you should think about such things. If you persist in belittling the science of climate change and how it is proven that humans are causing the current warming trend (study that science) I shall have little choice but to classify you with the FOX blowhards, Limbaugh, Beck, Hannity, O'Reilly and their kin mostly in Murdoch(the Wizard of Oz)land who go on promoting the messages of the fossils in the fossil fuel and related industries. For the likes of you to go on supporting the opinions of the likes of they is a clear example of cognitive dissonance. |
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