Strong Evidence Of Explosived Used Inside Wtc 7 Elevator Blown Out Of It's Shaft Options

[Paul]

I don't know why this account of Richard Rotanz who on 9/11 went through wtc 7 to asses the damage
to the interior of the building has been overlooked and whilst he was in there saw an elevator car that
had been blown of it shaft and was down the hall, what else besides a powerful explosive charge could
blow an elevator shaft sideways out of it shaft an toss it down a hall I mean elevators are not exactly
light as i understand it an elevator can weight up to a tonne or maybe more I am guess that a powerful
explosive charge was planted on the elevator as to blow it out of it's shaft when it exploded or a powerful
explosive shaft was planted at the back of the elevator shaft as to blow it out of the shaft, I am guessing
that this might have been done to stop people entering the building and finding out what is really going to
happen to the building, or to stop people from entering the building and finding and getting hold of certain
documents that the perps wanted destroyed, when you watch the video it shows a diagram of wtc 7
and the elevators are right in the center of wtc 7 and i doubt debris from the falling tower
would be able to penetrate deep enough into the building hit the elevator and throw it out
it's shaft.

WTC7 in 7 Minutes - 9/11 Explosions not Fire

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jKtU01qcZBM

Remember he uses the words "blown" to describe what happened to elevator so obviously
whilst he was inside assesing the damage to wtc 7 and when he come accross the elevator
shaft his first impression was that the elavator was blown out of it's shaft.
If this account does not prove that explosives must have been used inside wtc 7
in the time it caught fire to the time it collapsed then it must surely lend a huge
amount of credibility to the theory that explosives where detonated inside wtc 7

What I would like to know is he describes the elevator that was blown out of it's
shaft as an elevator car what type of an elevator is that is it a elevator used to
transport heavy cargo up an down the building can anyone show me what the
elevator he is talking about would look like, and also is there any information
available on the elevators that where inside wtc 7 i want to know how much the
elevator he is describing weighs so we can figure out how much force would be
required to blown it out of it's shaft thank you cheers.

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[onesliceshort]

Hi,
I don't know if this is any good to you but there were reports of 2000lb (1 US ton) elevators being "lifted" by the force of the "blast" at the Pentagon

http://www.fire.nist.gov/bfrlpubs/build03/PDF/b03017.pdf

In a nutshell this report describes ´2000 lb Elevators driven upward´ - inside the Pentagon (of course) - and ´ceilings collapsed onto escaping tenants´ (from which they say they derived a psi of between 0.2 and 1)

That an elevator was said to have been "blown out of its shaft" depicts a much stronger or more confined/concentrated explosion.
I remember seeing a thread devoted to elevators in the WTC buildings (discussing how the fuel could possibly have reached the lower basements, etc) but I can't remember WHERE.
If I do remember , I'll drop you a link.

Peace.

Edit:typo

This post has been edited by onesliceshort: May 5 2010, 11:08 AM

[Paul]

Hi,
I don't know if this is any good to you but there were reports of 2000lb (1 US ton) elevators being "lifted" by the force of the "blast" at the Pentagon

http://www.fire.nist.gov/bfrlpubs/build03/PDF/b03017.pdf

In a nutshell this report describes ´2000 lb Elevators driven upward´ - inside the Pentagon (of course) - and ´ceilings collapsed onto escaping tenants´ (from which they say they derived a psi of between 0.2 and 1)

That an elevator was said to have been "blown out of its shaft" depicts a much stronger or more confined/concentrated explosion.
I remember seeing a thread devoted to elevators in the WTC buildings (discussing how the fuel could possibly have reached the lower basements, etc) but I can't remember WHERE.
If I do remember , I'll drop you a link.

Peace.

Edit:typo

Yes thanks for the reply but a source also confirms that two elevator car where ejected from their shaft on the 8th or 9th
floor of wtc 7.

http://www.studyof911.com/articles/winstonwtc701/

"from inside the building at the 8th or 9th Floor elevator lobby, where two elevator cars were ejected from their shafts and landed in the hallway north of the elevator shaft, the visible portion of the south wall was gone with more light visible from the west side possibly indicating damage extending to the west"

Well we know that powerful explosives can eject heavy objects do we not? Gee lets see what could eject two elevators
that probably weighed over a tonne out of their shafts and into a hall of course the only the most plausible answer
would have to be powerful explosive charges, what else could eject heavy elevators out of their shafts and into a nearby
hall I cant think of anything that could do it can you, can anyone else provide another plausible explanation and de bunk
my claim, I just want to see if anyone can do it but my common sense and logic tells me there are no other plausible
explanations for this event and simple deductive reasoning and logic wins.

"The elevators where literally blown out of their shafts" as so to speak and sum it up.

Also the source confirms that the elevators where on either the 8th or 9th floors and this got me thinking
because as we all know Mr Hess And Mr Jennings where trapped on the 8th floors by a powerful explosion
that they both witnessed and had to wait quiet a while to be rescued, what if this same explosion that they
both witnessed also was the explosion that blew the elevators out of their shaft, now I am very anxious to
find out what time Richard Rotanz was sent into wtc 7 to asses the damage to the interior of wtc 7 and I
hope it is after the time Mr Hess And Mr Jennings witnessed the explosion on the eight floor of wtc 7
where they where trapped.

So what do we have here Mr Hess & Barry Jennings trapped on the eight floor of the wtc 7
and two elevators blown out of their shafts on the same floor or the floor right above Barry
Jennings & Mr Hess If I remember Barry Jennings in his testimony described the explosion
on the eight floor as a "Big Explosion" and he also said that the explosion knocked them back onto the
eight floor so it seems the explosion that trapped them on the eight floor was pretty powerful
so it might have also been powerful enough to blow to elevators out of their shafts and into a hall.
What do you think are the chance's that the explosion that they witnessed and felt was responsible for blowing
the elevators out of the shaft?


I am still unsure as to whether we have a solid case yet, maybe someone else will have to make that judgement,
I really like what we have so far.

But i still need more information on those elevators i still want to know what type of
elevators they where what they looked like and how heavy they where because the
heavier the elevators the more compelling the case, would the wtc blue prints have
much detail on the elevators inside the buildings.


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