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[rob balsamo]

NASA Flight Director Confirms 9/11 Aircraft Speed As The "Elephant In The Room"


06/22/2010 - (PilotsFor911Truth.org) Recently Pilots For 9/11 Truth have analyzed the speeds reported for the aircraft utilized on 9/11. Numerous aviation experts have voiced their concerns regarding the extremely excessive speeds reported above Maximum Operating for the 757 and 767, particularly, United and American Airlines 757/767 Captains who have actual flight time in all 4 aircraft reportedly used on 9/11. These experts state the speeds are impossible to achieve near sea level in thick air if the aircraft were a standard 757/767 as reported. Combined with the fact the airplane which was reported to strike the south tower of the World Trade Center was also producing high G Loading while turning and pulling out from a dive, the whole issue becomes incomprehensible to fathom a standard 767 can perform such maneuvers at such intense speeds exceeding Maximum Operating limits of the aircraft. Especially for those who research the topic thoroughly and have expertise in aviation.

Co-Founder of Pilots For 9/11 Truth Rob Balsamo recently interviewed a former NASA Flight Director in charge of flight control systems at the NASA Dryden Flight Research facility who is also speaking out after viewing the latest presentation by Pilots For 9/11 Truth - "9/11: World Trade Center Attack".

Retired NASA Senior Executive Dwain Deets published his concerns on the matter at the American Institute of Aeronautics and Astronautics (AIAA) as follows:

A Responsibility to Explain an Aeronautical Improbability
Dwain Deets
NASA Dryden Flight Research Center (Senior Executive Service - retired)
AIAA Associate Fellow

The airplane was UA175, a Boeing 767-200, shortly before crashing into World Trade Center Tower 2. Based on analysis of radar data, the National Transportation and Safety Board reported the groundspeed just before impact as 510 knots. This is well beyond the maximum operating velocity of 360 knots, and maximum dive velocity of 410 knots. The possibilities as I see them are: (1) this wasn’t a standard 767-200; (2) the radar data was compromised in some manner; (3) the NTSB analysis was erroneous; or (4) the 767 flew well beyond its flight envelope, was controllable, and managed to hit a relatively small target. Which organization has the greater responsibility for acknowledging the elephant in the room? The NTSB, NASA, Boeing, or the AIAA? Have engineers authored papers, but the AIAA or NASA won’t publish them? Or, does the ethical responsibility lie not with organizations, but with individual aeronautical engineers? Have engineers just looked the other way?

The above entry remained at the moderated AIAA Aerospace America Forum for approximately two weeks before being removed without explanation. Click "Who is Ethically Responsible" submitted by Dwain Deets at the Pilots For 9/11 Truth Forum for discussion on this entry at AIAA.

Dwain Deets credentials and experience are as follows:

Dwain Deets
MS Physics, MS Eng
Former Director, Aerospace Projects, NASA Dryden Flight Research Center
Served as Director, Research Engineering Division at Dryden
Recipient of the NASA Exceptional Service Award
Presidential Meritorious Rank Award in the Senior Executive Service (1988)
Selected presenter of the Wright Brothers Lectureship in Aeronautics
Associate Fellow - American Institute of Aeronautics and Astronautics (AIAA)
Included in "Who's Who in Science and Engineering" 1993 - 2000
Former Chairman of the Aerospace Control and Guidance Systems
- Committee of the Society of Automotive Engineers
Former Member, AIAA Committee on Society and Aerospace Technology
37 year NASA career

It is established based on corroborated expert statements, raw data, and precedent, that the extremely excessive speed reported for the 9/11 aircraft is truly the "Elephant In The Room" and needs to be thoroughly investigated.

For summary of speed analysis, please see article 9/11: Speeds Reported For World Trade Center Attack Aircraft Analyzed.

To view the scene from "9/11: World Trade Center Attack" analyzing the reported speeds in more detail, please click here.

For full detailed analysis covering the events which took place in New York City on September 11, 2001, interviews with experts, including analysis of "Hijacker" pilot skill, Black Box recovery and more... please view the latest presentation from Pilots For 9/11 Truth, "9/11: World Trade Center Attack".

Founded in August 2006, Pilots For 9/11 Truth is a growing organization of aviation professionals from around the globe. The organization has also analyzed Flight Data provided by the National Transportation Safety Board (NTSB) for the Pentagon Attack and the events in Shanksville, PA. The data does not support the government story. The NTSB/FBI refuse to comment. Pilots For 9/11 Truth do not offer theory or point blame at this point in time. However, there is a growing mountain of conflicting information and data in which government agencies and officials refuse to acknowledge. Pilots For 9/11 Truth Core member list continues to grow.

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[Dennis Cimino]

Re 'the flight crew deciding to carry out the attacks themselves' idea :)

if you remember in 'Catch-22' how Milo Minderbinder got the contract from the German's to bomb and strafe the airfield for them, so, in right wing apologist land, this is possible!!! I can hear it now; "listen, here is da deal, if you carry out these suicide attacks..I mean....high speed runs for us...ahem...we'll give you a piece of the ackshun...say, a million bucks, paid out after you flutter down in near pristine fashion to the ground.."

we're digressing way off the path here, and I apologize to the forum for it, but shit, guys....if we listed every one of the not only nonsensical things about the official story and then add the 'absolutely impossible' things to that list, then clearly by the time you get the whole thing compiled, it starts to look like a bunch of amateurs did this, certainly not top echelon mossad zionists who with assurances from our F.B.I. and our DoD, that nobody would ever in a million years ever be allowed to ever see the recovered parts for examination for SERIAL NUMBERS that would be TRACEABLE TO the N-Numbers of the planes that are alleged to have been destroyed that day.

The 'impossible speeds' thing is one more thing to toss on the pile of; "sorry, we can't buy this" list of things they have thrown at us.

It's almost so amateurish and so blatantly bogus, it's like; "catch us, catch us if you can!!" taunting us, and taunting the dead from that day, making a mockery of the very tenets of what this nation says it was founded upon.

We're now almost a decade later and with all the evidence that supports the MOSSAD involvement, and NORAD complicity, and F.B.I. assistance in COVER UP, with Congressional NON OVERSIGHT and PURPOSEFUL OBFUSCATION OF FACT by Philip Zelikow, you'd think that by now, we'd have gallows built to hang the perpetrators from, and grand juries convened to indict them. Not so.

If a dead American Airlines crew can get indicted by the N.T.S.B. for 'rudderdance' as I call it, in an airplane several knots below the designed maneuvering speed of that Airbus they died in that day, then they cannot have it both ways. They cannot assert here that speed doesn't create issues down low, with structural integrity and over-stressing of airframes, unless they're going to exonerate that AA crew from the 'oops, you danced on the rudders too hard' schlock job the N.T.S.B. handed down in their ruling on that fandango.

Why bother having a 'Va' speed for any airplane if you can drive them as fast as you want to, with no consequences??

clearly there are indeed consequences, not because Airbus builds cheap crap that should never get certificated to fly in U.S. airspace, with no structural spar from the vertical stabilizer into the empennage as Boeing always has had (until maybe recently), and then that airplane falls apart when the pilots use moderate force on rudders to correct for yaw encountered in a wake turbulence episode, you have to ask yourself; "gentlemen, what made you think you could float the 510 and 440 knot HELL BENT FOR LEATHER final approaches to the WTC buildings as 'not a problem' then??

They can't. because that assertion is crap. Just like their bogus recreations they cranked for FLT-77 into the Pentagon that day, is CRAP!

and it's also TREASON. HIGH TREASON. Capital T, capital R, capital E, capital A, capital S, capital O, capital N..that kind of TREASON.