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post Apr 12 2012, 07:28 PM
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The major problem when studying the past…is the use of modern words.

We need to stop using the word Egypt or even Africa.

Cham/Kham was more or less the Nile river basin, with Mizraim being Memphis and Kush being Thebes.

Hindu Kush derives from Cyrus who was called Kurus/Koresh

It was the "Kush" of the Nile who built the Kush of Asia beginning with Babylonia and Nineveh.

Sons of Noah/Nch

Note: Serpent is spelled = Nchsh

Shem/Shm = father of Eber/Obr [Hebrew], Aram

Ham/Chm = father of Cush/Kush, Mizraim/Mtzrim, Phut/Phut [Pont], Canaan/Knon. Cush generated Nimrod/Nmrd the builder of Babylon, Ashur and Nineveh. Canaan generated Sidon, Heth

Japheth/Iphth = father of Gomer/Gmr, Magog/Mgug, Media/Mdi, Javan/Iun, Tubal/Thbl, Meshech/Mshk

Fall of Nineveh at the hands of the Babylonians, Medes, Scythians and Cimmerians/Shem in 612 BC. Medes/Persians
Assyria was assisted by Necho II of Mitzraim [610-595 BC] ended about 605 BC
Necho II of Mitzraim was allied with Assyria and fought against the Cimmerians, the Scythians and Judah
Nebuchadnezzar II ruler of Babylon 605-562 BC
Apries ruler of Mizraim/Mitzraim 589-570 BC
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post Apr 19 2012, 05:14 PM
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Atlandis did exist

Atlandis was as big as a continent and it is still there...only it is underwater. We are talking about 13,000 years ago when California was the North Pole and south Africa was the South Pole

Water frozen on land causes the oceans to be lower.

There was no ice on Atlandis to speak of.

It was a green savanna with many large animals. Mankind was functionally Neanderthal, however Cro-Magnon was not far away.

It was not tundra. Keep in mind that the Poles have changed location several times. [Something the Experts do not get]

Very few people realize that the Earth created itself.

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post Apr 25 2012, 08:35 PM
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Negro

The word Negro/Niger does not refer to a people. It refers to a color that is generally accepted as “Black”.

The European word “Nek” could refer to being dark. If true then the city of “Nekhen” in Kush; would refer to a “Fort City of Dark People”.

The good or bad news is that “Dark People” did not exist before 13,000 years ago.

Sirius was called the “Scorcher” because it scorched the Earth and those exposed to its UV radiation.

This radiation damaged the DNA of those exposed.

To this day…we still have white Africans!
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post Aug 15 2012, 02:49 PM
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Czar

In order to understand the evolution of the elite, we should perhaps discuss autocracy.

An autocracy is a system of government in which a supreme political power is concentrated in the hands of one person.

The term autokratōr is employed in antiquity to translate the Latin imperator into Greek.

Imperator = Emperor = Em-per-ra = “In the house of Ra” and thus we get empire

Czar/ tsar and Kaiser /Kaisar are derived from Caesar

Caesar comes from Nazar

In the “Book of Isaiah” 11:1 Nazar [Ntzr] and Natser and Netser are understood as a messianic title.

The Aramaic Targum of Isaiah of the inter testament period substitutes the word "Messiah" for "Nazar".

Within a culture, the descent groups may be considered to lead back to gods or a branch.

Sometimes Nazarene is substituted for Nazar.

An older reading going back to 722 BC we find the form of Sargon. The name Sarru-ukin translates into “God made firm King”.

Another example = Baal-Tsar = King of the City

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post Aug 16 2012, 08:24 PM
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Other examples of Nazar:

Nabu-kudurri-usur = Nebuchadnezzar

Ninurta-kudurri-usur

Mar-biti-apla-usur

Marduk-apla-usur

Nabu-nasir = Nabonassar

Nabu-apla-usur = Nabopolassar

Note 1: Osiris = Au-Sar

Note 2: The Usur/Sar sub-title appears more often to kings of Babylon.
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post Aug 18 2012, 01:25 AM
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Anu-naki

Nazar is a "dragon term" of course, but if you look at the terms for dragon in the various ancient dialects you get a wide variation - but always the "Na" was followed by a hard consonant. Naki or Nagi is, I have read, the Sumerian equivalent. With Anu being a primary god in Sumer, you can read Annunaki as the Naki (Nazar) of Anu.

Now if you allow for a minute for Anu to be an actual person, perhaps an ancestor of the first Sumerian priest-kings, perhaps a Royal Scythian whose close descendents migrated to Sumer, then these notorious "Annunaki" would have been the "Naki" of Anu,

There's another "Naki of Anu" in history, the Tuatha de Danaan. According to Nicholas de Vere, the name of these ancestors of the Pictish elven kings of Ireland and Scotland (and maybe in diluted form England) should be read the Tuatha (tribe) d'Anu.

And it would follow that ALL of these Dan, Danaus, Danaan tribes would also be more correctly referred to as d'Anu (as opposed to the more familiar "Dan")

So, in the Levant you had these 13 immigrant tribes from Egypt, one of which were the Tribe d'Anu (Tribe of Dan), who by the way, are referred to in the Old Testament as being the "serpent by the way", and who apparently flew a snake (later changed to an eagle) on their banner.
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post Aug 18 2012, 04:51 PM
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If you want to consider “Anu” as a person, then look at king Tut’s cartouche.

Amen-Ankh-Tut-southern “Anu” prince

The “Anu” icon is a penis and does not stand for Heliopolis.

The “Min” of Akhmin is always shown with an erect penis and a god of reproduction

Min-Amen = Bull of his mother. [Cow jumped over the moon]

King Tut died in 522 BC from gangrene.
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post Aug 18 2012, 07:14 PM
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Joseph had two sons by the daughter of the priest of Ra.

One was Ephraim and the other was Manasseh.

There is a story of a king of Judah named Manasseh who ruled lived from 709-643 BC.

Manasseh had a son named Amen [Amon] who lived from 664-641 BC.

Both Manasseh and Amen lived and died in Egyptian style.

Why would they do this?

II Kings states that Amon "did that which was evil in the sight of YAWEH, as did Manasseh his father.

And he walked in all the ways that his father walked in, and served the idols that his father served, and worshipped them.

The key is in “600 BC”.
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post Aug 19 2012, 01:47 AM
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I hold (until I am convinced otherwise) to the hypothesis that "Anu" was a Royal Scythian, that the Ubaid priest-kings of Sumer were his descendants, and that this royal lineage flowed to Egypt from there.
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post Aug 19 2012, 03:18 PM
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I kind of like “Anu” being related to Danu.

However, I am still stuck on Greek mythology.

Danaus and Aegyptus being sons of Belus and grandsons of Poseidon and Libya

Libya being the daughter of Memphis and grand-daughter of Nilus

The mother of Perseus being Danae

Nimrod the builder of Babylon and Nineveh was the son of Cush

Cush was located on the upper Nile and Misraim [Memphis] located on the lower Nile. Both are located in Libya.
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post Aug 19 2012, 08:18 PM
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Have you ever thought about the connection between “Anu” and Uranus/Ouranos?

In Sumerian, Hurrian, Assyrian and Babylonian mythology, Anu is the sky god. [Not a planet]

Hurrians were under the control of the Medes.

The longest Hurrian text was written from King Tushratta to Amenhotep III around 586 BC.
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post Aug 20 2012, 03:20 AM
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QUOTE (elreb @ Aug 23 2012, 02:18 PM) *
I kind of like “Anu” being related to Danu.

However, I am still stuck on Greek mythology.

Danaus and Aegyptus being sons of Belus and grandsons of Poseidon and Libya...


Belus was, or was code for, Ba'al! (As was Bilah, the handmaiden mother of the "illegitimate" full brothers Dan and Naphtali).

Ba'al was Lord, or Enki, as opposed to Enlil, his angry storm-god-brother, "god of the mountain", Jehovah, who became our "one true god" after the Jews got tired of being punished for siding with Enlil's brother Enki, ancestor of the Davidic line .... shhh! - don't tell Enlil! I suspect this (untold) narrative has its parallel in the myth of Prometheus, who stole fire from the gods and gave it to man and was thus punished by Zeus (Prometheus was chained to a rock where his liver was eaten by an eagle daily, but he being a god and so could not die it grew back to be eaten again...).

The Rockefellers seem to have had an interest in this Prometheus guy, they took the "fire of Prometheus" for their Standard Oil logo, and placed a bronze statue of Prometheus at the side of the skating rink in Rockefeller Center.

There is more ... the Rockefeller family originates in the nobility of southern (Lanquedoc) France, Cathar country.

Also, the story of Pinocchio, a wooden puppet brought to life by magic, clearly takes up this subject. The Italian name of the puppet's wood-carver father is Geppetto, the equivalent of the Greek Iapetus (Prometheus' Titan father) as well as the Judaic patriarch of the peoples of Europe & Asia, Japheth.

Finally, "Pinocchio" means "pine-nut-boy". The pine cone, pine nut or pine tree were always symbols of the pineal gland, the "third eye", and once you understand the grail ritual and its significance and relation to true kingship, Pinocchio's real significance becomes clear.

I giggle with delight thinking about this ... the story of Pinocchio tells the puppet's journey from a piece of wood to living human, and much of it deals with morality and Pinocchio's failures and ultimate success in becoming "moral".

This, the story of Pinocchio, is a (relatively) modern version of the Grail Romances (Parzival, King Arthur, and all that) !
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post Aug 20 2012, 01:23 PM
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Depending on which story you like the most, Bilhah and Zilpah were half-sisters to Rachel and Leah.

They came from the Pad-dan-Aram portion of Aram-Naharaim and more specifically = Harran.

I have always thought of Naharaim as being the northern Harem [Haram] and the northern kingdom.

Harran was also known as Harranu. [Harr-Anu]

These could very well be your Hurrians and explain why they were writing to Amenhotep.

Now I have myself wondering about “Anshan” and Paddan…if you add the “D” you get Danshan.
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post Aug 20 2012, 09:55 PM
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If you got dizzy before…Oh well!

Functionally, Libya was considered west coast and Arabia was considered east coast. [Nile]

Before “Muhammad”, the chief god of Mecca appears to be “Hu-Baal”

Baal seems to be more of a Moon god.

It is once again the confrontation between sons of Light and sons of darkness.

“Allah has no Sun”
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post Aug 21 2012, 03:48 AM
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OMG!!! What's the name of that giant black cube Abraham and Ishmael supposedly built in Mecca?, the one Muslims pray to and walk around counter-clockwise (7 times) during the Haji ... the Kaaba!!! (Gotta be a connection to the word Kabbalah!?.)

Black cube - that's the cubic stone - the GRAIL! - Melusine had (in some versions of the myth, I am sure) a black cubic stone at the center of her swastika-shaped garden maze (as well as a fountain). She and her noble Vere husband may have actually built this, or maybe it was a construct to communicate a (secret) message in the myth. (For those confused about what I'm talking about, you can find Melusine on your cup of Starbucks coffee, she is the mermaid with dual fish-tails, representing, IMO, the merging of two major branches of the Dragon, those of the Scottish Picts and the royal House of Anjou in the Middle Ages).

First, why 7 times around the Kaaba? - There are 7 (Hindu) Chakras, correlating with the 7 planetary spheres which the ancients were aware of, as well as corresponding hormonal glands in the body.

Back to the "swastika" garden - whether real or mythical, here's the (secret) meaning that was woven into the legend. The swastika is always a symbol for the "vortex" which surrounds the grail. It is also the maze which must be navigated to get to it! (the grail). The "maze" is one and the same as the (Greek) Labyrinth, the danger of screwing it all up by falling prey to human proclivities and releasing unwanted hormones (say, perhaps by getting sexually aroused) during the Grail Ritual.

The fountain at the center of Melusine's maze was of course her own bodily "fountain", melatonin-rich ejaculate, which her partner in this ancient ritual would drink, gaining wisdom, health, higher states of perception & consciousness, possibly even what some have referred to as "nirvana" (Jesus had a grail maiden too, it was Mary of Magdala - which is why the Templars and Cathars worshipped her over her partner/later husband while the Church of Rome called her a whore). This "fountain" is also, of course, the mythical "fountain of youth", because a regular diet of melatonin-rich blood or ejaculate would stave off disease and the aging process. The health-benefits of melatonin are well known to doctors and snake-oil sellers (of useless "dead" melatonin pills) today.

The cubic-stone, the black cube, a giant representation of which was erected in Mecca, represented the grail-maiden's Gräfenberg spot ... the "G-spot".

(Hahah!!!! Sorry, I just have to laugh, these religions, what a sorted history they have, and how well they have covered up the true meaning of the symbols they have appropriated and yet have never understood (Catholics symbolically drinking the blood of Christ at Mass, an artifact of Jesus' drinking the menstrual blood of Mary, Muslims marching around a giant symbol of the G-spot???), while employing their eager and power-hungry knights to kill anyone and everyone who still understood any of this, in any one of the several brutal and bloody inquisitions of the Middle Ages.)

Nicholas de Vere is very specific about these details (though he has never talked about the cubic stone of Mecca, the Kaaba, and until 5 minutes ago I had never even thought about it).

But I'm sure all of the above is in fact true. BTW, our words 'secret' and 'secretion' derive from a common root - for a very good reason ... Just as 'flower', a common symbol of the Grail, always a rose (red) or a lily (white), shares its etymological root with 'flow', i.e. menstrual blood or ejaculate.

Hey, you can't make this stuff up.
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Mecca

It appears that during the time of Hu-Baal the Quraysh/Kurash tribe controlled Mecca.

Coincidentally, Cyrus is spelled “Kursh” in Hebrew.

Apparently, Muhammad was of the “Banu” clan. [B-Anu]

G-spot

Adds new meaning to being a G-man!

Interesting thing about your story is it pretty much takes god out of the picture.

Sex to Nirvana…bread and blooder.
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Sure, I can believe that Mohammed was of similar status to Jesus - by virtue of being a descendent of Royal Scythians (albeit distant and via a different branch) and, possibly, being a practicer of the grail ritual, which went hand in hand btw with the somewhat differently evolved brains of people of this extended bloodline. I wouldn't have entertained that notion but for the giant black cube, the Kaaba, in Mecca. There's no misunderstanding or coincidence at work here, the black cube or cubic stone IS a symbol of the Grail, and specifically, the G-spot.

Funny you mention bread. Look into monatomic gold, which is a white powder which promotes pineal gland activity and is confused, in the bible at points, with flour used to make bread.
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QUOTE (elreb @ Aug 24 2012, 08:55 PM) *
Baal seems to be more of a Moon god.


Melatonin extraction (harvesting? - how shoud I word it?!?) only worked at night.

Then there are the numerous connections between the female, the chalice, the horns (of Taurus), the "U" or "V" ... hey, look at any representation of Isis - Cow Horns on her head!

It's the womb, the chalice, the receptacle, and yet giver. Both the receptacle and the giver are this - "U" - and that's the mystery of the grail.

And the cow jumped over the moon.
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The city of Kish was said to be located east of Babylon in the land of Sumer.

Sumer was dated around 3100 BC.

First problem is that Kish is actually Kush and more specifically named after Kush the father of Nimrod.

Therefore the second problem would be the date.

To some extent, Sumer was cross-dated to Egypt. Only problem is that artifacts only Radiocarbon date to 2000 BC.

I have Noah and his flood pegged about 1591 BC. There were many flood…caused by many reasons.

It is most likely that the Noahian flood was caused by a volcano or earthquake and subsequent tsunami.

You could possibly put “Thera” on the suspect list.

Minoans were builders of both boats and buildings.

A chief god in Egypt was Min.
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Amen, Amin, Amun, Amon

The first character is a feather = Ah

Second character is a checkerboard = M [Men]

Third character is water = N

On the Abydos kings list, the first king of Memphis was Mena

The exact three characters that spell Mena are the same exact as those that spell Amen.

Mena and Amen is the same person.

Amen is Zeus

Zeus was born on Crete

Zeus, Min, Amen was a Minoan [Phoenician]

The Pho-enicians used the galley [Gaul], a man-powered sailing vessel, and the hippos [Horse]
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