History and the "Elite", Sanders, elreb, Quest Options

[elreb]

Sanders should really like the Anu connection to Azu-pir-Anu home town of Sargon.

I can assure everyone that Sargon 1 and Sargon 2 were not separated by thousands of years.

Sargon has something to do with “Moses”…of the 18th dymasty

[Sanders]

...Azu-pir-Anu home town of Sargon...

Really? Interesting.

[elreb]

Really? Interesting.

(IMG:http://www.suneagle1.com/images/anu.jpg) South, Anu, Ruler

Remember…both Tut and Akhenaten had "Anu" in their titles…

[elreb]

People in the old days could not see Uranus but the planet was named after “Anu”.

“Anu” was thought of as the supreme sky god but I still wonder what the people were looking at?

Was “Anu” a planet outside our system? {A new or born again planet}

[elreb]

Sargon has something to do with “Moses”…

If Solomon is Ramses II/Ramose II…then he is also Amasis II or Ahmose II…which would be a twist in the story where king Ramses was also Moses…

In reality, it was Cyrus who said “Let my people go” and Babylon complied…

Suddenly the 12 tribes are reduced to one group generically called “Jews” after Judah…now under the control of the “House of Zeus”.

Under Jewish rules…Cyrus had to have come from the “House of David”…thus a tribe of Judah.

No wonder the Messiah was called Hay Zeus…

[elreb]

(IMG:http://www.backcarebootcamp.com/files/images/8_cartoon_back_future01a.preview.jpg) The first real “BIG” issue is getting people to accept that we are somewhere from 800 to 600 BC.


The clock of time will resolve most issues…

[elreb]

To be contemporary with Solomon/Ramses II…I would guess that Amnon was Amenhotep III

Bible lists Amnon’s mother as Ahinoam who was possibly married to both Saul and David. If so making her the daughter of Ahimaaz/Ahmose 1

Records list Amenhotep III’s mother as Mutemwiya [Mother in/of the divine boat] If so making her the daughter of Artatama 1 of Mitanni.

Mutemwiya is claimed to be the sister of Yuya who married Tuya…who fits perfectly with Tuya being the mother of Solomon/Ramese II.

Remember…Bathsheba [Tuya] was the first wife of Uriah the Heth [Uriyah ha Chiti]

How does Uriyah or Uriah compare to “Yuya”?

[elreb]

Yuya is described as an “Upper Egypt” noble person of foreign origin [Asiatic] with a son named Anen.

It may be a stretch to collate “Uriyah” to “Yuya” but it is interesting that Mitanni was next door to Hatti…[Home of Abraham]

It is just as interesting comparing names like “Anen” to “Amnon” making me think we are in the same era…

(IMG:http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/0/0c/Near_East_1400_BCE.png) Kassite is also Kushite...

[Sanders]

This is the first time I've heard of Abraham's birthplace being in the lands of the Hatti.

I always heard 'Ur' - wherever that was. (I suspected Ugarit or somewhere close to Haran... not Sumer.)

BTW, the Veres (or, Nicholas De Vere at least) claims descendency from the Mittani.

[elreb]

This is the first time I've heard of Abraham's birthplace being in the lands of the Hatti.

Perhaps I wrote that too fast…should have said:

Next door to Hatti…and that Abraham is believed to come from Edessa/Urfa or the “Ur of Kasdim” which is about 25 mile north of Haran or 50 miles north-East of Carchemish…

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Edessa,_Mesopotamia

[elreb]

Only because it is current news…the earthquake in Japan…shows…that the “Kraken” water monster cannot be dated.

I would gather that …it was some event like this…that Perseus was chasing…

First wave…sorry Charley…

This is so Moses…w/o the Volcano…

[Omega892R09]

This is the first time I've heard of Abraham's birthplace being in the lands of the Hatti.

I always heard 'Ur' - wherever that was.

Ur, of the Chaldes in Southern Iraq? If so this puts it close to the modern Basra.

One time part of the empire of Sargon.

I find it less than curious that so many names found in Tolkien have a ring of these ancient civilizations. Sargon - Saron, Nazgul, Mines of Moria. But then Tolkien was a great studier of ancient languages and had first hand experience, like his friend C S Lewis (Narnia), of that bloodbath which was WW1 hence the dark themes running through his books.

[elreb]

Urfa/Urha/Edessa is in the most logical location due to its proximity to Haran [Ḫarrānu] the chief home of the Mesopotamian moon god Sin.

The word “Ur” is equal to the Greek “Polis”…as in an urban area or city

Abram was apparently switching sides when he added "Ra" to his name...Raham" is not a word in Hebrew

(IMG:http://www.tourism-research.org/images/greysmallheiroglyph.JPG) Hieroglyph for city = An-t

[elreb]

One time part of the empire of Sargon...

Did anyone notice that the Egyptian symbol for town…could be some type of a cross?

Apparently, “Harr-Anu” was the Northern Anu or “Harem” of/for women

Jacob went to "Haran" to get a woman and “Dah”…Leah's womb = she gave birth to Levi and Judah…

Rachel's womb of "Haran" became the mother of Joseph and Benja-min. [Min]

Haran is Mitanni…Aram-Naharaim…

This is really simple…

The relationship between Jacob and Esau [Red} is so Roman.

[elreb]

After the death of Solomon we see the divide between the Kingdom of Israel and the Kingdom of Judah.

In effect...we are seeing the separation of the “House of Joseph” and the “House of David”.

Basically, “Leah’s” children [Levi & Judah] going nose to nose with “Rachel’s” children [Joseph & Benjamin]

Soon after, Benjamin sided with Judah. I have a funny feeling that Benjamin has something to do with Akhmin.

To recap: Foundation point # 1 is the dates are all “Out to Lunch” and Foundation point #2 is that Jerusalem was located in the land of Kush of the Upper Nile.

[Not to be confused with the land of Kush of the Aram-Naharaim]

[Meedio]

This is the first time I've heard of Abraham's birthplace being in the lands of the Hatti.

I always heard 'Ur' - wherever that was. (I suspected Ugarit or somewhere close to Haran... not Sumer.)

Word Ur in swedish produces the sound of origin, urgammal means very old, like from the beginning of times. I have written more on swedish and finnish languages containing many original meanings for words or names around the world under the "Dragon blondline" topic.

[elreb]

Word Ur in swedish produces the sound of origin, urgammal means very old, like from the beginning of times. I have written more on swedish and finnish languages containing many original meanings for words or names around the world under the "Dragon blondline" topic.

Thanks Meedio,

Sometimes we need to read both Dragon-blood and History of Elite to get the full “Pan-O-vision”

Many words are very old…you should write a book about it?

[Meedio]

Thanks Meedio,

Sometimes we need to read both Dragon-blood and History of Elite to get the full “Pan-O-vision”

Many words are very old…you should write a book about it?

Working on it, meanwhile The Master Plan on page Bocksaga.com will do the job for you englishspeakers (äng land, means land of meadows or moors, written with 'A' with two dots on top, if you can't see it). In finnish there is several books about this.

[elreb]

Working on it, meanwhile...

Where I take a personal thankful recognition of words is that both the Hebrew & Christian bibles are not using the correct writing and definitions of words.
Your contributions are always helpful…

PSS: Americans do not speak English…yet Canadians do speak American…

[elreb]

At the time of Akhenaten [550 BC], Tushratta the king of Mitanni offered his daughter Tadukhipa/TaduHeba to Amenhotep III…


Now if we back up a little in time, we discover a king of Ebla called “Ibrium” who lived at the time of a king called “Tudiya”. These two kings concluded the so-called "Treaty with Ashur". [Sometimes Abram was called Ibrahim]

Funny part is that Ebla was destroyed by Sargon/Sardon sometime around 700 BC; reminding me of the conflict between Abram and Nimrod.

This would sure seem like a good reason for Abram to move to the Nile and join in a fight against Ashur. Keep in mind that it was Sargon’s successor…Sennacherib…that laid siege to Jerusalem.