History and the "Elite", Sanders, elreb, Quest Options

[elreb]

Way too much information, points to the home of Abram to be Edessa [Urfa, Urhay, Erech]

Only a two day march to Harran…home of the Moon god Sin and the last stronghold of the Assyrian empire.

Nebuchadnezzar II [634-562 BC] king of Babylon had married Amytis of Media (630 - 565 BC) the daughter of the king Cyaxares of Media.

It was Nabonidus, the son of Nebuchadnezzar [Nabû-balâssi-iqbi] and Adad-Guppi, a priestess of Ehulhul temple of Sin, who went into hiding in Harran.

It was Jewish law that allowed for cities of “hiding”.

All the way…up to and including Cyrus the Great…Harran was very important and very Hebrew...

We are speaking...hundreds of years...not thousands of years...

[elreb]

Names to remember for quick reference:

Arthur Evans 1851-1941

Heinrich Schliemann 1828-1890

Frank Calvert 1828-1908

William Flinders Petrie 1853-1942

Eduard Meyer 1855-1930

Wallis Budge 1857– 1934

Censorinus---De Die Natali 238 AD

[elreb]

When I watch depictions of 18th dynasty kings on TV…I am so disappointed because we are not seeing any of the pomp and circumstance or ceremony and fuss that really did exist.

In the movie “Anna and the King”, we see what a Royal harem with 38 wives/concubines and 68 children should look like…the beauty and enchantment of the palace grounds and the colors of the royal gardens.

The following is a vague example…




http://www.bangkokinsights.com/bangkok-sig...arge-museum.php
http://www.bangkokpost.com/royalbarge/

[elreb]

More on Abram’s home being Edessa [Urfa, Urhay]

We keep hearing “Ur of the Chaldees”…OK!

The Chalybe people refer to the Chaldea of Anatolia [Pontus] who lived near the Black Sea and are credited with ferrous metallurgy [Iron-workers]. Check it out = Chalybes = Land of Halys…which totally rules out southern Mesopotamia.

I’m starting to get the funny feeling that the Great Flood of Noah was somewhere in the area of the Black Sea which at one time was a fresh water lake. Apparently the Mediterranean backed up thru the Aegean and the Sea of Marmara to the Black Sea.

Now we came imagine the Vinca migration to Varna…both being educated in metallurgy…

[IslandPilot]

When I watch depictions of 18th dynasty kings on TV…I am so disappointed because we are not seeing any of the pomp and circumstance or ceremony and fuss that really did exist.

In the movie “Anna and the King”, we see what a Royal harem with 38 wives/concubines and 68 children should look like…the beauty and enchantment of the palace grounds and the colors of the royal gardens.

The following is a vague example…

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http://www.bangkokinsights.com/bangkok-sig...arge-museum.php
http://www.bangkokpost.com/royalbarge/

Now that's the way to TRAVEL IN STYLE! (IMG:http://pilotsfor911truth.org/forum/style_emoticons/default/thumbsup.gif) I must say I loved watching that video. As soon as I saw that barge was moving, I just KNEW they were going to have to DOCK that thing somewhere... and THAT I just wasn't going to miss! They did pretty good considering... a little "rough" there near the end... but it got me SMILING again... and "thinking"... (did you smell the "smoke" yet?)

One reason that was really kool, was because there wasn't a SINGLE JET SKI on that RIVER, how can that be? Where is that PARADISE?

But I was thinking... how KOOL IT would be to pull up to one of OUR DOCKS DOWNTOWN in a "Boat" like that... the "Hatteras" Crowd would have to hang their heads in shame, but it would be SO KOOL!

I'd have to "anchor out" and take a dinghy to town, because it would take my entire Month's worth of SS to tie up to a dock for about 15 minutes, with that kind of "footage".

Then again, I'd never get such a vessel even near the local harbor... because I'd never get through the HSA, TSA, ICE, DNR, CUSTOMS, County Sherrif, and local Harbor Patrol BLOCKADE without an "altercation" of some kind... and I'm not the kind of guy to be making "Peace" by giving one of my "girls" away; that's for sure.

But, I know I'm dreaming for sure now... where would I ever get a "crew" like that? I don't have that many "friends", not even close..., and I don't have the money to pay them, and I can't afford to feed them or clothe them either... I suppose if I could threaten them with CERTAIN DEATH, and make it stick, I might be able to convince them to be one of my "CREW"... ARGH ARGH ARGH!!!

(I can't even keep my "Super Snark" right-side up.)

Well "Shiver me timbers, and Blow me down, Matey".... or something like that... (IMG:http://pilotsfor911truth.org/forum/style_emoticons/default/salute.gif)

[Tamborine man]

I think the barge would be more than welcome in 'Nyhavn' in Copenhagen!

http://www.perroloco.net/images/Nyhavn-1K.JPG

But that's just the bloody Danes -

half the times they don't know what they're doing!

[elreb]

Now that's the way to TRAVEL IN STYLE!

As…also in the movie “Shogun” an entire society would pass a skill, trade or position on from father to son and mother to daughter.

Oarsmen were not slaves but were in fact fighting men. The pecking order was unbelievable. Now compound that, if a king has twenty sons and each son also have another twenty sons. It gets pretty complex.

If I ever finish my story…”Nile…River of Kings”…I hope to set things straight.

It will be better than…how the West was Won.

[elreb]

“Ar” and Arsenic…

I’m not sure how hard this one is going to be but south of the Black Sea there was the Kingdom of Armenia which encompassed the highlands of Ararat, the legendary home of Noah’s Ark.

Around 860 to 843 BC, there lived a king Arame [Aramu] whose capital was located at “Arzashkunu” in a land once called Ur-Artu.

The western area of Armenia was called Aram and the area around Haran was called Aram-Naharaim a place that was in communication with Akhenaten in Amarna. We have already mentioned that this is the homeland of Abram. The Chaldea of Anatolia was home of the Chalybes in the Land of the Halys.

We hear mention of the Halys River in 585 BC due to the Battle of the Eclipse. The Halys flows into the Black Sea about 46 miles west of “Sinop”.

The city "Sinuwa"… Sinope, Turkey was founded as a Minoan civilization from the city of Miletus atound 700 BC. The name derives from “Ar-Sen-ikon” [Sinopic red earth"] a name given to the red arsenic sulfate also known as “ruby of arsenic” or “Realgar”.

The moon god “Sin” came from Haran… Alchemical symbol for arsenic is the Jewish Star…

(IMG:http://www.clipart.clipartist.net/wikimedia.commons/PD-Self/A/R/Arsenic_alchemical_symbol_m.png) (IMG:http://gosai.com/sites/gosai/files/kt/star-of-david.gif)



It came as no surprise to me that the yellow and red paint pigments found at Amarna and on the head of [alleged] Nefertiti was made from this exact same Arsenic mineral.

I still think that Ariaramnes, Arsames and Ramses are related…

Other “Ar” words: Arabia, Army, Archer, Armour, Armor, Arson,

[elreb]

The “Experts” have been up to no good again with their no-existent Greek “Dark Ages”.

Miletus appears to be Minoan and not Greek. The Greek connection seems to be drawn from the misnomer that Zeus was Greek which we know to be baloney. [Poppycock]

This would now make Amisos, Apolonia, Dioscurias, Histria, Odessos, Olbia, Panticapaeum, Phanagoria, Phasis, Pityus, Sinope, Tanais, Theodosia, Tomis, Tyras, Trapezunt …all Minoan.

There also appears to be a natural disaster around 700 BC. [Some kind of a flood]

Perhaps between 750 -700 BC artifacts of the Minoan civilization arrived at Miletus. Cretans apparently displacing the indigenous Leleges [Pel-Leleges which sounds like the Pel-Set]

[elreb]

King Minos was claimed to be the son of Zeus and Europa. Europa was Phoenician…

Poseidon was the father of Zeus and Poseidon was Veneti from Brittany, France.

After Troy II…Trojans and the “Eneti” of Paphlagonia…moved to Venice as “Adriatic Veneti “…to become “Venetian” and Trojans under Aeneas founded Rome.

Minos was Phoenician…

[elreb]

Minos

We are told that Minos lived 3 generations before Troy [850 BC] giving us a rough date of 910-916 BC

Thucydides tells us Minos was the most ancient man known to build a navy.

He had two brothers, Rhadamanthys and Sarpedon…all living at the time of Miletus.

Sarpedon was banished by Minos… His kingdom became Lycia in southern Anatolia.

On the surface, Minos sounds like Min of Mizraim a brother of Kush.

Sarpedon sounds like Sargon/Sardon of Akkad who was a predominate member of the court of Kush.

Sargon of Akkad had a lot in common with Nimrod…

Apparently, Rhadamanthys was also banished by Minos and may relate to Raamah the fourth son of Kush and brother of Nimrod.

[elreb]

From life after death...

Hypatia was a female Greek mathematician, philosopher and astronomer in 400 AD Roman Alexandria, Egypt. Her god was wisdom and knowledge.

On one side of the city she had the Christians and on the other side she had the Jews…who were both constantly and viciously hacking each other to death.

Hypatia the first notable woman in mathematics, as Neo-platonist philosopher, she belonged to the mathematical tradition of the Academy of Athens represented by Eudoxus of Cnidus.

In the end, Hypatia was declared a witch…stripped naked, flayed, mutilated and set ablaze by Christian monks. [uneducated, ignorant, & uncultured]

And slowly the world crept back into darkness…

You have got to be kidding me…

Theon 335- 405 AD was a Greek scholar and mathematician who lived in Alexandria, Egypt. He edited and arranged Euclid's Elements and Ptolemy's Handy Tables, as well as writing various commentaries.

Theon was the father of Hypatia who also won fame as a mathematician.

It was Theon who stated that 1605 Greek years elapsed between Min and the end of Augustus…

Augustus Gaius Julius Caesar “Octavianus” ruled 63 BC to 14 AD.

[elreb]

With Troy II being dated at 850 BC…I got to looking for Iron and found none…

Both Mycenae and Troy had zero Iron…

Therefore, I am giving a date of 750 BC as the effective time of the “Iron Age”, which should be somewhat correct if the Olympic Games began in 776 BC.

This still keeps king Tut’s Iron dagger at 600 BC.

[elreb]

The Siegerland is a region of Germany which covers Siegen, Freudenberg and Wilnsdorf.

They record some of the oldest Iron works...

Iron mining and Iron working is dated around 600 BC. Wilnsdorf is given a blast furnace date of 500 BC.

The Willroth Pit lasted 2500 years…hello…

[elreb]

Amazingly, we do not really see the use of Iron weapons until the time of Sargon II. [721-705 BC]

To explain this “Experts” proclaimed this as the Iron Age II period…to justify the imaginary Iron Age I period that never existed.

Hattusilis III [chief of Kheta] who lived at the time of Ramses II…sent an Iron dagger to the king of Assyria thus still giving us a date of 600 BC.

[Sanders]

Good work, elreb, awesome.

Again, I just moved from Japan (where all my friends are freaking out) to AZ, in transition, not posting much.

But, I read once in a while. Keep it coming (IMG:http://pilotsfor911truth.org/forum/style_emoticons/default/thumbsup.gif) .

[elreb]

Hittites never existed and the word is made up and so are the dates.

In reality, the word is Ḥet also spelled Khet, Kheth, Chet, Cheth, or Heth

In reality, they correspond to the Eneti or Heneti or Enete

The Black Sea branch occupied Paphlagonia to Cappadocia or Sinope to Samsun

Samsun was also called Amisus and Enete and came into existence around 760 BC

The Amisus valley was extensively mines for “Sandarake” or Realgar…red Arsenic."Red land...Black land"

Sidon and Heth are sons of Canaan who was a son of Kham. Brothers were Cush [Upper Egypt], and Mizraim [Lower Egypt], and Phut [Pontus].

Phoenician, Veneti, Venetian…
(IMG:http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_xjcwwA-nj8k/TQjLE52hDTI/AAAAAAAAA_g/iK_CloMtQdg/s1600/or.gif) Could the Black Sea be the Red Sea?

[elreb]

The vulcanological and archaeological evidence at Thera is so corrupt and tainted…it may be impossible to get a good date for that eruption.

We see a lot of Minoan movement around 760 BC to wonder what was "Really" going on.

(IMG:http://www.minoanatlantis.com/pix/Santorini_Paleo_Models_Druitt91.jpg) Being a lone “Crooner” is not easy…

[elreb]

Listen to the words…”Touch the Truth”…brothers & sisters…

Greatness has nothing to do with money…it is inside you…

[elreb]

Present history can give us an idea to past history…

Not far from where my family in Germany mined and forged Iron in 500 BC was a group of people called the Chatti. [A North Sea Germanic tribe]

Like the British bringing German miners and Iron workers to America in 1714…what is to say that the Brittney Veneti did not bring German Chatti to Anatolia to mine and forge Iron?

River Halys, now Kızılırmak River is called the "Red River", from the Red clay, containing iron ore that colors the water, found along the banks of the river that comes from Kızıldağ (meaning Red Mountain).

This is why I’m starting to think of the Black Sea as being the Red Sea.

This “Red Mountain” area became known as ‘Galatia” after the Gauls. Funny that Gauls originated in Germany and were known as Iron workers!

In 1714 Germanna, Virginia wasn’t exactly a great Empire…but Britain was.

The word Galley comes from Gaul…

A galley is a ship that is propelled by human oarsmen, used for trade and warfare. Galleys dominated naval warfare in the Mediterranean Sea from the 8th century BC.

For the record…this is what the “Expert Clowns” have to say…

1180 - 334 BC = The first phase of the Iron Age in Central Anatolia was often spoken of as the “Dark Ages” because there were almost no traces testifying to inhabitancy over the first 300 years following the demise of the Hittite Empire.

But by my math…

Check it out: 1180 - 300 = 880 BC you have Troy 1 “a mass migration was set off by the Hittites”… shows a change of culture indicating a new people had taken over Troy.

In other words...the "Real" beginning...