Civilization As We Know It Is Unsustainable., The wrecking of our life support system. Options

[Omega892R09]

Current species extinction rates are unprecedented in the fossil record.

Royal Society: “There are very strong indications that the current rate of species extinctions far exceeds anything in the fossil record.”

Please take time to absorb all that is written there including many excellent comment.

and that is not all.

Heard of the North Pacific gyre and the plastic garbage patch?:

The Great Pacific Garbage Patch - Good Morning America

Message to lunk:

Avoiding the answering of my questions by locking a thread is not fair play as in:

Stephen Schneider thread

Insrtead you repeat stuff I have debunked backed with evidence and you provide a singular lack of support for your erroneous ideas as with this:

i have a little problem with the past predictions of oceans rising.
(since the '60's!)
They haven't.

The reason that you see lower tides in your local is because the land is rising as the Pacific plate subducts beneath, as I have repeatedly told you. But that is another well researched and sound scientifically known fact that you refuse to acknowledge.

Try explaining how the structure that is the European Alps formed by an expanding earth. Ask yourself why the top of the Matterhorn is a huge chunk of gneiss, albeit somewhat ground down by glaciers and then the carbon cycle working with rain, winds and gravity to further errode, that could only have come from the African continent.

Here are some clues, not that I have not supplied many more over time:

Waves in the bathtub Why sea level rise isn’t level at all

Scientists withdraw low-ball estimate of sea level rise — media are confused and anti-science crowd pounces

and as for:

If water evaporates quicker under lower atmospheric pressure,
then a rise in ocean levels would accelerate evaporation,
reducing that rise.

Is atmospheric pressure overall falling? Who is telling you that?

You should study this:

The sky IS falling

On the other hand, what is causing a rise in atmospheric moisture levels is rising temperature. The energy stored is put into an accelerated hydrological cycle as people in Pakistan have discovered. Tropical storms over parts of the US have also intensified whilst other parts continue to desicate:

Masters: “Strongest storm ever recorded in the Midwest smashes all-time pressure records”

Study: Global warming is driving increased frequency of extreme wet or dry summer weather in southeast, so droughts and deluges are likely to get worse

Lunk, it would make a change if you tried to grasp these topics rather than evading and repeating unsupported nonsense dressed up as verse.

[maturin42]

I rented "Collapse" from Netflix last week. As I have mentioned before I credit Mike Ruppert's "Crossing the Rubicon" with starting me down the road to where I am now in 9/11 Truth. The film is basically a prompted monologue by Mike about the forces that have shaped our current circumstances and continue to shape them. Mike's trajectory has been somewhat erratic over the past several years, culminating ( I thought) in a very public retirement from public life, complete with disclaimers indicating that he was out of the business of providing prognostication and analysis.

Turns out, not so much. He is not a "truther" in fact he does not see 9/11 truth as being a worthy pursuit, saying it has been so corrupted by disinformation that it won't achieve anything. The US Government is not going to investigate itself, nor will it let anyone else investigate it in any meaningful sense. Fuggedaboudit. Instead he has refocused on peak oil and the resultant collapse that appears imminent.

The issue for me is not whether collapse will occur but the speed of the collapse and timing. The financial weirdness looks to me like the scrambling around of very venel and crooked men to amass a fortune they think will insulate them from the effects of a world-wide financial meltdown. So it appears something is coming, it's unprecedented, and it looks a lot like the effects one might expect from a catastrophic decline in energy resources - a world-wide depression. Mike certainly appears sincere, and I recommend the film. I also know that Mike has a number of detractors in this forum. His is a point of view that makes as much sense as anything I have seen recently. Let me know what you think.

This post has been edited by maturin42: Nov 25 2010, 11:20 PM