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Civilization As We Know It Is Unsustainable., The wrecking of our life support system.

Omega892R09
post Nov 10 2010, 08:16 AM
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Current species extinction rates are unprecedented in the fossil record.

Royal Society: “There are very strong indications that the current rate of species extinctions far exceeds anything in the fossil record.”

Please take time to absorb all that is written there including many excellent comment.

and that is not all.

Heard of the North Pacific gyre and the plastic garbage patch?:

The Great Pacific Garbage Patch - Good Morning America

Message to lunk:

Avoiding the answering of my questions by locking a thread is not fair play as in:

Stephen Schneider thread

Insrtead you repeat stuff I have debunked backed with evidence and you provide a singular lack of support for your erroneous ideas as with this:

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i have a little problem with the past predictions of oceans rising.
(since the '60's!)
They haven't.


The reason that you see lower tides in your local is because the land is rising as the Pacific plate subducts beneath, as I have repeatedly told you. But that is another well researched and sound scientifically known fact that you refuse to acknowledge.

Try explaining how the structure that is the European Alps formed by an expanding earth. Ask yourself why the top of the Matterhorn is a huge chunk of gneiss, albeit somewhat ground down by glaciers and then the carbon cycle working with rain, winds and gravity to further errode, that could only have come from the African continent.

Here are some clues, not that I have not supplied many more over time:

Waves in the bathtub Why sea level rise isn’t level at all

Scientists withdraw low-ball estimate of sea level rise — media are confused and anti-science crowd pounces

and as for:

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If water evaporates quicker under lower atmospheric pressure,
then a rise in ocean levels would accelerate evaporation,
reducing that rise.

Is atmospheric pressure overall falling? Who is telling you that?

You should study this:

The sky IS falling

On the other hand, what is causing a rise in atmospheric moisture levels is rising temperature. The energy stored is put into an accelerated hydrological cycle as people in Pakistan have discovered. Tropical storms over parts of the US have also intensified whilst other parts continue to desicate:

Masters: “Strongest storm ever recorded in the Midwest smashes all-time pressure records”

Study: Global warming is driving increased frequency of extreme wet or dry summer weather in southeast, so droughts and deluges are likely to get worse

Lunk, it would make a change if you tried to grasp these topics rather than evading and repeating unsupported nonsense dressed up as verse.
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post Feb 18 2011, 08:12 AM
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Why worry about climate change when we have ongoing weather modification?

http://weathermodification.com/projects.php

Any weather can be modified, in any way, anywhere in the world,
for a price.
Any talk of drought, is fear mongering,
any strange weather is intentional.

We may control the clouds, but we don't control the sun, yet.
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- Omega892R09   Civilization As We Know It Is Unsustainable.   Nov 10 2010, 08:16 AM
- - Sanders   Most of this is true, or most of this is MOSTLY tr...   Nov 10 2010, 09:37 AM
|- - Omega892R09   QUOTE (Sanders @ Nov 8 2010, 12:37 PM) Pe...   Nov 10 2010, 01:35 PM
- - lunk   QUOTE (Omega892R09 @ Nov 10 2010, 04:16 A...   Nov 10 2010, 12:08 PM
- - lunk   corbettreport http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uu9f...   Nov 25 2010, 07:18 PM
|- - Omega892R09   QUOTE (lunk @ Nov 23 2010, 10:18 PM) corb...   Nov 26 2010, 05:00 PM
|- - Omega892R09   QUOTE (lunk @ Nov 23 2010, 09:18 PM) corb...   Nov 27 2010, 08:24 AM
|- - Omega892R09   QUOTE (lunk @ Nov 23 2010, 09:18 PM) corb...   Nov 27 2010, 08:52 AM
|- - Omega892R09   QUOTE (lunk @ Nov 23 2010, 09:18 PM) corb...   Nov 27 2010, 12:04 PM
|- - Omega892R09   QUOTE (lunk @ Nov 23 2010, 10:18 PM) minu...   Nov 27 2010, 04:02 PM
- - SanderO   local daily weather is not climate. Wrong scale.   Nov 25 2010, 08:19 PM
|- - lunk   QUOTE (SanderO @ Nov 25 2010, 04:19 PM) l...   Nov 25 2010, 09:09 PM
- - Tamborine man   "THE GREATEST SCIENTIFIC SCANDAL OF OUR TIME...   Nov 25 2010, 11:01 PM
|- - Omega892R09   QUOTE (Tamborine man @ Nov 24 2010, 02:01...   Nov 26 2010, 01:45 PM
- - maturin42   I rented "Collapse" from Netflix last we...   Nov 25 2010, 11:19 PM
|- - Omega892R09   QUOTE (maturin42 @ Nov 24 2010, 01:19 AM)...   Nov 26 2010, 04:24 PM
- - GroundPounder   QUOTE (lunk @ Nov 23 2010, 11:09 PM) if w...   Nov 26 2010, 09:05 AM
|- - maturin42   QUOTE (GroundPounder @ Nov 24 2010, 12:05...   Nov 26 2010, 01:47 PM
- - GroundPounder   like buckminster fuller said, "do more with l...   Nov 26 2010, 06:19 PM
|- - Omega892R09   QUOTE (GroundPounder @ Nov 24 2010, 08:19...   Nov 27 2010, 08:05 AM
- - lunk   Glaciers, yech, it's winter here, last thing i...   Dec 30 2010, 03:28 AM
|- - Omega892R09   QUOTE (lunk @ Dec 28 2010, 05:28 AM) Appa...   Jan 6 2011, 08:21 AM
- - lunk   Why worry about climate change when we have ongoin...   Feb 18 2011, 08:12 AM
|- - Omega892R09   QUOTE (lunk @ Feb 16 2011, 11:12 AM) Why ...   Feb 18 2011, 01:01 PM
- - lunk   Hmm, name a glacier... i don't know, if that...   Feb 21 2011, 12:52 AM
|- - Omega892R09   QUOTE (lunk @ Feb 19 2011, 02:52 AM) Hmm,...   Feb 22 2011, 09:07 AM
- - lunk   Omega, this is from research, i've done after ...   Feb 22 2011, 02:03 PM
|- - Omega892R09   QUOTE (lunk @ Feb 20 2011, 04:03 PM) Omeg...   Feb 23 2011, 09:00 AM
- - Omega892R09   OK Lunk, and others, lets have a look at some of t...   Feb 23 2011, 01:51 PM
|- - lunk   QUOTE (Omega892R09 @ Feb 23 2011, 09:51 A...   Feb 23 2011, 11:51 PM
|- - Omega892R09   QUOTE (lunk @ Feb 22 2011, 01:51 AM) Of c...   Feb 24 2011, 02:20 PM
|- - Tamborine man   QUOTE (Omega892R09 @ Feb 22 2011, 05:20 P...   Feb 26 2011, 06:34 AM
|- - Omega892R09   QUOTE (Tamborine man @ Feb 24 2011, 08:34...   Feb 26 2011, 10:55 AM
|- - Tamborine man   QUOTE (Omega892R09 @ Feb 24 2011, 01:55 P...   Feb 27 2011, 09:03 AM
|- - Omega892R09   QUOTE (Tamborine man @ Feb 25 2011, 11:03...   Mar 3 2011, 02:09 PM
|- - Tamborine man   QUOTE (Omega892R09 @ Mar 1 2011, 04:09 PM...   Mar 3 2011, 10:08 PM
|- - Omega892R09   QUOTE (Tamborine man @ Mar 2 2011, 01:08 ...   Mar 4 2011, 08:02 AM
|- - Tamborine man   QUOTE (Omega892R09 @ Mar 2 2011, 10:02 AM...   Mar 5 2011, 04:04 AM
|- - Omega892R09   QUOTE (Tamborine man @ Mar 3 2011, 06:04 ...   Mar 5 2011, 02:34 PM
|- - Tamborine man   QUOTE (Omega892R09 @ Mar 3 2011, 05:34 PM...   Mar 6 2011, 10:54 PM
|- - Omega892R09   QUOTE (Tamborine man @ Mar 5 2011, 12:54 ...   Mar 7 2011, 08:09 AM
|- - Tamborine man   QUOTE (Omega892R09 @ Mar 5 2011, 11:09 AM...   Mar 8 2011, 09:03 AM
|- - Omega892R09   QUOTE (Tamborine man @ Mar 6 2011, 12:03 ...   Mar 8 2011, 01:05 PM
|- - Tamborine man   QUOTE (Omega892R09 @ Mar 6 2011, 04:05 PM...   Mar 9 2011, 11:41 PM
|- - Omega892R09   QUOTE (Tamborine man @ Mar 8 2011, 02:41 ...   Mar 10 2011, 12:54 PM
- - lunk   Animals have been breathing, belching, and passing...   Feb 26 2011, 11:21 AM
|- - Omega892R09   QUOTE (lunk @ Feb 24 2011, 02:21 PM) Anim...   Feb 26 2011, 12:16 PM
- - lunk   http://www.brisbanetimes.com.au/environmen...1012-...   Feb 26 2011, 01:40 PM
- - Omega892R09   On glaciers just seen this comment at Weekend Open...   Feb 26 2011, 06:35 PM
- - lunk   That is just it, if we are told to believe it is g...   Feb 27 2011, 12:13 AM
|- - Omega892R09   QUOTE (lunk @ Feb 25 2011, 02:13 AM) That...   Mar 3 2011, 02:12 PM
- - André   Civilization As We Know It Is Unsustainable This ...   Feb 27 2011, 03:25 AM
|- - Omega892R09   QUOTE (André @ Feb 25 2011, 05:25 AM) Whi...   Mar 3 2011, 02:13 PM
|- - André   QUOTE (Omega892R09 @ Mar 3 2011, 06:13 PM...   Mar 4 2011, 01:31 PM
|- - Omega892R09   QUOTE (André @ Mar 2 2011, 04:31 PM) I al...   Mar 4 2011, 02:06 PM
|- - BarryWilliamsmb   QUOTE (Omega892R09 @ Mar 2 2011, 04:06 PM...   Mar 4 2011, 04:36 PM
|- - elreb   QUOTE (BarryWilliamsmb @ Mar 4 2011, 10:3...   Mar 4 2011, 05:31 PM
||- - BarryWilliamsmb   QUOTE (elreb @ Mar 2 2011, 08:31 PM) Hi B...   Mar 4 2011, 07:23 PM
|||- - elreb   QUOTE (BarryWilliamsmb @ Mar 4 2011, 01:2...   Mar 4 2011, 08:09 PM
||- - Omega892R09   QUOTE (elreb @ Mar 2 2011, 07:31 PM) Hi B...   Mar 5 2011, 02:12 PM
|- - Omega892R09   QUOTE (BarryWilliamsmb @ Mar 2 2011, 06:3...   Mar 5 2011, 02:00 PM
- - lunk   Actually, i think that the human population of Ear...   Feb 27 2011, 08:42 AM
- - lunk   i have to thank omega for being so proficient in h...   Mar 5 2011, 03:43 PM
|- - elreb   QUOTE (lunk @ Mar 5 2011, 09:43 AM) It...   Mar 5 2011, 05:45 PM
||- - Omega892R09   QUOTE (elreb @ Mar 3 2011, 08:45 PM) Lunk...   Mar 6 2011, 01:23 PM
|- - Omega892R09   QUOTE (lunk @ Mar 3 2011, 06:43 PM) i hav...   Mar 6 2011, 01:15 PM
- - Omega892R09   Rather OT but one for you lunk seeing as we have t...   Mar 6 2011, 01:31 PM
- - lunk   Ah a Weird AL in geology. and the original. Aw...   Mar 6 2011, 08:42 PM
|- - Omega892R09   QUOTE (lunk @ Mar 4 2011, 10:42 PM) Ah a ...   Mar 7 2011, 08:56 AM
|- - Omega892R09   QUOTE (Omega892R09 @ Mar 5 2011, 10:56 AM...   Mar 7 2011, 12:40 PM
- - talayo   Omega: When it comes to AGW you are truly out to ...   Mar 7 2011, 01:24 AM
|- - Omega892R09   QUOTE (talayo @ Mar 5 2011, 03:24 AM) Ome...   Mar 7 2011, 08:35 AM
|- - elreb   QUOTE (talayo @ Mar 6 2011, 07:24 PM) Whe...   Mar 7 2011, 12:42 PM
||- - Omega892R09   QUOTE (elreb @ Mar 5 2011, 03:42 PM) As I...   Mar 7 2011, 04:22 PM
||- - elreb   But Doc…you don’t understand…I’m a turkey…   Mar 7 2011, 05:01 PM
|- - tumetuestumefaisdubien   QUOTE (talayo @ Mar 6 2011, 05:24 PM) ......   Mar 8 2011, 09:44 AM
|- - Omega892R09   QUOTE (tumetuestumefaisdubien @ Mar 6 2011, 1...   Mar 8 2011, 01:28 PM
- - Tamborine man   Talking about food! Listen please, to this de...   Mar 7 2011, 05:15 AM
- - Omega892R09   Another one for you lunk:   Mar 7 2011, 04:13 PM
- - elreb   Let’s see: Sanders = Dragon Blood = 50,000 hits T...   Mar 7 2011, 07:53 PM
|- - Omega892R09   QUOTE (elreb @ Mar 5 2011, 09:53 PM) Let...   Mar 8 2011, 07:43 AM
- - talayo   Omega: Sorry I used "the out to lunch" ...   Mar 10 2011, 08:09 PM
|- - Omega892R09   QUOTE (talayo @ Mar 8 2011, 10:09 PM) Ome...   Mar 11 2011, 01:15 PM
- - talayo   Omega: When you request some evidence be given by...   Mar 10 2011, 08:48 PM
|- - Omega892R09   QUOTE (talayo @ Mar 8 2011, 10:48 PM) Ome...   Mar 11 2011, 01:43 PM
- - Omega892R09   Talayo More for your consideration: A stunning y...   Mar 12 2011, 08:45 AM
- - lunk   It's much colder here than last year. Precipit...   Mar 13 2011, 01:36 AM


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