Jesse Ventura Speaks With Pilots For 9/11 Truth, The Pentagon Rating Options

[Sanders]

And Jesse, be a little less dramatic next time mate.

I share your sentiment, but like Alex Jones, if Jesse wasn't dramatic he wouldn't be getting the attention. Most out there are used to watching '24' and 'the DaVinci Code'. Maybe I'm wrong. I hope I'm wrong. I wish I was wrong.

But G. Edward Griffin doesn't have a TV show.

[Sanders]

This is excellent work. How simple it would be if the security camera videos would be released to put this matter to rest! Why not? What possible national security would be involved -- except to hide the truth?

And the $2.3 TRILLION "missing"... that was 40% of the National Debt at the time! The sum is beyond staggering. That amount of money buys fleets, air forces. That's enough money to write every adult American a check for $10,000 today! It would go a long way to helping us out of this recession, right?

As this 9/11 Can of Worms is more and more opened by people like Pilots, Architects, Jesse Ventura and millions of others, hopefully we'll begin hearing more stories like April Gallup's. What struck me about her testimony is how she could have exited through the hole the "plane" had made. What about all those thousands of gallons of jet fuel that would have been creating a roaring inferno? Apparently not.

Great work Jesse and Pilots!

My sentiments exactly. Sure, I wish Jesse would have covered this, or that, or not placed such emphisis on one aspect at the expense of another (Jesse, shame on you for ignoring NOC witnesses and flight path analysis) ... but P4T got exposure big time. People with inquiring minds will want to know more. This is great I think. Kudos to all involved. The perps are shaking in their boots (I hope).

[elreb]

2. And its the first time I've heard this comment (22:35) about "only Pentagon personell were found dead at the scene." I hadnt heard that before. Can somebody elaborate on why the bodys were found at Dover Airforce base without any smoke and mirrors?

I have also wondered why the five bodies were never DNA tested to prove that they were Saudi Arabian and why the Saudi government did not require Muslim burials.

Hani Hanjour’s brother Abulrahman was in communication with the US and could have sent in a DNA samples.


When [Army Staff Sgt. Mark] Williams discovered the scorched bodies of several airline passengers, they were still strapped into their seats. The stench of charred flesh overwhelmed him.
http://www.usatoday.com/news/washington/se...ntagon-usat.htm

Staff Sgt. Mark Williams of the Military District of Washington Engineer Company at Fort Belvoir also later says: “Ironically, we were conducting classes about rescue techniques [and to “test the security at the base in case of a terrorist attack] when we were told of the planes hitting the World Trade Center.” Williams’ team is one of the first response groups to arrive at the site of the Pentagon crash and one of the first to enter the building following the attack.

This post has been edited by elreb: Dec 20 2010, 02:10 PM

[Rickysa]

Rob et. al.,

Extremely professional performance guys!!! (IMG:http://pilotsfor911truth.org/forum/style_emoticons/default/thumbsup.gif)

Y'all done P4T proud!!

Rick

[paranoia]

ok so this is janice kephart:
http://www.9-11commission.gov/ (use search function and you get these 3 results)

The 9/11 Commission Report
File Format: PDF/Adobe Acrobat
Professional Staff Member. Stephanie L. Kaplan. Special Assistant & Managing Editor. Miles L. Kara, Sr. Professional Staff Member. Janice L. Kephart ...
govinfo.library.unt.edu/911/report/911Report.pdf

Staff Statement 1 - Staff Statement No. 1
File Format: PDF/Adobe Acrobat - Quick View
Susan Ginsburg, Thomas Eldridge, and Janice Kephart-Roberts did most of the investigative work reflected in this statement. The Commission was able to build ...
govinfo.library.unt.edu/911/staff_statements/staff_statement_1.pdf

9-11 COMMISSION HRNG 1.26.04
File Format: PDF/Adobe Acrobat - Quick View
Jan 26, 2004 ... Susan Ginsburg, Thomas Eldridge and Janice. Kephart-Roberts did most of the investigative work reflected in this statement. ...
govinfo.library.unt.edu/911/.../9-11Commission_Hearing_2004-01-26.pdf


and this is also janice kephart:
http://www.cis.org/Kephart
http://www.cis.org/9-11-Suqami


and this is her company:
9/11 Security Solutions, LLC
http://www.911securitysolutions.com/



but it appears that this is her passion:
http://www.myspace.com/janicekephartpoetry
(scroll down and listen to her songs)

General Info
Genre: Ambient / Lyrical / Trip Hop
Location Washington DC, US
Profile Views: 81925
Last Login: 12/5/2010
Member Since 11/10/2006
Website janicekephartpoetry.com/main
Record Label .. Libra Rising Recordings
Type of Label Indie
janice kephart poetry has 2409 friends

in case you think its a different janice kephart, check the pics/vids here:
http://www.myspace.com/janicekephartpoetry/photos
http://www.myspace.com/janicekephartpoetry/videos


i actually dig her music, but wtf?! how is it of all people from the 9/11 commission, "conspiracy theory" found this lady? and how is it this lady was on the commission to begin with? weird stuff man...

[confused]

I have also wondered why the five bodies were never DNA tested to prove that they were Saudi Arabian and why the Saudi government did not require Muslim burials.

Hani Hanjour’s brother Abulrahman was in communication with the US and could have sent in a DNA samples.


When [Army Staff Sgt. Mark] Williams discovered the scorched bodies of several airline passengers, they were still strapped into their seats. The stench of charred flesh overwhelmed him.
http://www.usatoday.com/news/washington/se...ntagon-usat.htm

Staff Sgt. Mark Williams of the Military District of Washington Engineer Company at Fort Belvoir also later says: “Ironically, we were conducting classes about rescue techniques [and to “test the security at the base in case of a terrorist attack] when we were told of the planes hitting the World Trade Center.” Williams’ team is one of the first response groups to arrive at the site of the Pentagon crash and one of the first to enter the building following the attack.

Here's a quote from that USA Today article:

"Members of Congress who toured the site Thursday said rescue officials reported that much of the fuselage of the hijacked airplane remains intact in the ruins."

How in the hell is that possible? How could the fuselage have punched through the relatively small initial hole intact? I'm no expert, but that does not seem possible.

And that brings up another question: why didn't the Jesse Ventura video show pictures of that hole on the outside of the Pentagon before the facade collapsed? I know it was discussed a bit, but seeing pictures of it really forces one to question whether or not a 757 really hit that building. I know it's possible to find those pictures on YouTube.

[cheapchippy]

Yeah I read this too - you beat me to it.
Interesting

[Sanders]

That was the Pentagon. The DoD totally had control over who went in and what info came out of there. They could release any sort of stories they wanted.

[elreb]

That was the Pentagon. The DoD totally had control over who went in and what info came out of there. They could release any sort of stories they wanted.

Well, I don’t know…

If the “DoD” said that 20 tons of titanium and steel vaporized into thin air, yet human flesh, seats and seat belts remains behind…I would have to side with the government.

Anyway, all crime scenes are photographed, no matter how gruesome…so I’m sure that they would produce these crucial photographs as evidence and proof that they were telling the truth.

(IMG:http://www.willothewisp.org/BlogPics/fridgemice.jpg) If my numbers are correct...Titanium Vaporizes at 2,550,000 degree F.

This post has been edited by elreb: Dec 20 2010, 11:13 PM

[soar1u]

Rob and Company

Here's a edited version of a lecture a year ago in San Diego
Aeronautical Impossibilities conference with Dawin Deets and Lt. Col. Dave Gapp

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A45_VW1XbiU



I'm a little late to post this But it's timely none the less, with the Jesse success's

Scott

This post has been edited by rob balsamo: Dec 21 2010, 02:16 AM

Reason for edit: added embed

[Maha Mantra]

All good stuff, well done !

Enough basic facts combined with enough drama to make a dent in some percentage of "Mr. and Mrs. America".

I'm not a TV fan, so in ignorance, I'm wondering about the politics involving who sits on the board of both the paying advertiser's as well as the show's network boards. Its got to be interesting as to the pursuit of what is a kind of profit opportunity to sell this show's intrigue to viewers, to particular advertisers interested in buying viewer's time to sell their products.
Is the base of semi-enlightened Americans such a big audience ?
Is it kind of like green energy? At what point does doing the right thing become a desirable investment option ? And where does that lead ?
Sorry, just musing on the fringes there. The core is awesome !

Must do sequels ! If there's a genuine interest, maybe at least another sequel could be done. How do we express our interest to the show and develop that ?

[tumetuestumefais...]

If my numbers are correct...Titanium Vaporizes at 2,550,000 degree F.

Titanium boiling point (temperature when it vaporizes) is 5949 °F or 3287 °C - a temperature hardly achievable even using advanced incendiaries not speaking about a jet fuel fire. So the idea the titanium engine parts vaporized in 5gon's short lasting fire is quite far-fetched. The bulk of the titanium from the engines should remain at the site and make the identification of the engines and thus the aircraft not too hard task for the experts from the Rolls Royce who manufactured the N644AA engines according to the FAA registration. To my knowledge nothing like that ever happened.

[elreb]

Titanium boiling point (temperature when it vaporizes) is 5949 °F or 3287 °C - a temperature hardly achievable even using advanced incendiaries not speaking about a jet fuel fire. So the idea the titanium engine parts vaporized in 5gon's short lasting fire is quite far-fetched. The bulk of the titanium from the engines should remain at the site and make the identification of the engines and thus the aircraft not too hard task for the experts from the Rolls Royce who manufactured the N644AA engines according to the FAA registration. To my knowledge nothing like that ever happened.

Thanks for the correction. I was thinking on the lines of some spontaneous flash point where even vapor does not exist…like the invisible plane in Shanksville, Pennsylvania.

[DoYouEverWonder]

This headline was just on the front page on Google News!

GORDON DUFF: GOV. JESSE VENTURA PROVES 9/11 COVER-UP, WILL AMERICA’S GOVERNMENT FALL?

Veterans Today

[cheapchippy]

The fact that Veterans Today can claim this:

"If any individual outside the US government were to be named as most complicit in a 9/11 cover-up, it would be Julian Assange."

...without any evidence certainly lowers my opinion of the piece (IMG:http://pilotsfor911truth.org/forum/style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif)

[elreb]

The fact that Veterans Today can claim this:

"If any individual outside the US government were to be named as most complicit in a 9/11 cover-up, it would be Julian Assange."

WikiLeaks was launched in 2006 and the “Greatest” fear to the US government is that he has or may receive documentation that will prove the truth about 911.

As much as I hate to admit it but Obama can now be considered as most complicit in a 9/11 cover-up,

[cheapchippy]

Interestingly Rob one of Alex Jones moderators on his message board named Jimd3100 is a vocal critic of P4T and CIT. I wonder how he is going to react to this new show? Will he be banning people who agree with Jesse even though he was on Alex's show today talking about all this? It must be an uncomfortable position for him to be in. Alex really needs to check out who he has moderating his forum because this guy is really a piece of work.

He doesn't subscribe to holograms and the Pentagon flyover theory is all.
Check out this post regarding Jimd3100

http://forum.prisonplanet.com/index.php?ac...bfa1b101fd8d08e

He does have an extraordinary gift for finding and connecting loose ends.

[rob balsamo]

He doesn't subscribe to holograms and the Pentagon flyover theory is all.
Check out this post regarding Jimd3100

http://forum.prisonplanet.com/index.php?ac...bfa1b101fd8d08e

He does have an extraordinary gift for finding and connecting loose ends.

I havent read much if anything from a "Jimd3100", but from what i've heard, he doesnt have a clue with respect to aerodynamics or aviation... which is probably why he never signs his name to his claims, nor has ever registered here to debate our work.

Typical of those who attack us.

[amazed!]

Never heard of Veterans Today.

A few months ago I joined Veterans For Peace, and a bunch of them got arrested by the police in front of the Casa Blanca.

Veterans Today must be the mouthpiece of the propaganda machine of somebody or another.

[Johnny Angel]

I never heard of Veterans today either.

I am going to post Jesse Ventura`s video on a few forums I visiit.
I will use the Veterans today site. They can hit the start button from there. Just to add a bit more credibility to the video.. hopefully they will come here for more information..

I have belonged to Veterans for Peace for almost 40 years now. I was sent to Viet Nam in 1972. My Father was a former US Army/OSS officer who forbid me from going to the draft and then to Viet Nam. The day he drove me to the airport to go, he begged me to go AWOL or simply refuse to go to an Illegal war. I assured him I would survive. The last thing he said to me before I got onto the airplane was that he would sign me up for Viet Nam Veterans against the War..(Vets for Peace)