Who Is Behind Wikileaks?, by Michel Chossudovsky |

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Dec 14 2010, 08:20 AM
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Dec 14 2010, 10:12 AM
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That is one very interesting and informative read Westgate. Cheers mate! (IMG:http://pilotsfor911truth.org/forum/style_emoticons/default/thumbsup.gif) QUOTE "It is in the interest of the corporate elites to accept dissent and protest as a feature of the system inasmuch as they do not threaten the established social order. The purpose is not to repress dissent, but, on the contrary, to shape and mould the protest movement, to set the outer limits of dissent. To maintain their legitimacy, the economic elites favor limited and controlled forms of opposition... To be effective, however, the process of "manufacturing dissent" must be carefully regulated and monitored by those who are the object of the protest movement " (See Michel Chossudovsky, "Manufacturing Dissent": the Anti-globalization Movement is Funded by the Corporate Elites, September 2010)
http://www.globalresearch.ca/index.php?con...a&aid=21110 |
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Dec 14 2010, 07:45 PM
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![]() Group: Administrator Posts: 826 Joined: 14-May 07 From: New Zealand Member No.: 1,044 |
Very interesting article and a thought-provoker. As it says in the article, this form of propaganda is VERY sophisticated and feeds into the binary "good/bad" world that the media presents to us. It can be very bad for individuals but relentlessly pushes the propaganda that the powers that be want pushed - and as he says, the actual headline leaks are carefully presented by so called liberal media with whatever spin they choose. Brilliantly cunning really ......
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Dec 14 2010, 10:32 PM
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![]() Group: Administrator Posts: 826 Joined: 14-May 07 From: New Zealand Member No.: 1,044 |
Something I posted elsewhere about WikiLeaks being "taken down".
===== WikiLeaks will not be closed down in the same way that Al Qaeda will not be destroyed. It is much too valuable a propaganda tool - sure it may take a couple of body blows to get the "free speech liberals" hot under the colour and keep the "string em up rednecks" happy but it will always heroically reappear and keep on leaking just when required (just like those terrorists always manage to create a good story at just the right time). WikiLeaks is even modelled on the AQ myth. 1. Get the name of the organisation known by absolutely everyone. In recent weeks this has been achieved after the groundwork of the past few years. 2. Get a front person as well known as the organisation. Assange is your OBL. He is everywhere right now and the arrest is just great publicity. Because WikiLeaks is the next great propaganda tool of the 21st century. People are getting just a little bit weary of "a spokesman for the Pentagon says that Al Qaede Welsh-Arab bomb mastermind Ivor Bin-Hidin-in-a-Bin-Jones has developed a walnut that is actually a bomb a hundred times more powerful than Hiroshima" and have (shock-horror) began to suspect that it is all being made up. But WikiLeaks is all bona-fide "true" and even better, them damn politicians don't want us to know about it! And we get to see it all in detail (well actually after some well-known media outlets have gone through them and filtered them and then checked with government sources are OK with them being released but that it just tiresome detail). WikiLeaks is yet another controlled opposition with a few interesting spin-offs. 1. Now "they" can get rid of troublesome politicians without having to go through the boring sex scandal stuff - just a few leaks, much publicity and voila, the politician is finished. 2. It keeps the left and right busy attacking each other instead of the real enemy. 3. It is another tool in "their" plan to remap the world in "their" desired way while he puppet-master is behind the curtain. |
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Dec 14 2010, 10:42 PM
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Group: Valued Member Posts: 2,129 Joined: 30-January 09 Member No.: 4,095 |
QUOTE Brilliantly cunning really ...... Expect a "blind-sider" scoop soon. Too many people are already on to him. Oooooor...this is aimed at simply restricting the internet so people at forums like these who are very wary of this shit won't have a voice to make others look critically at WL. Then they'll have a field day. 2 cents |
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Dec 15 2010, 10:48 PM
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Group: Valued Member Posts: 3,773 Joined: 14-December 06 From: Fort Pierce, FL Member No.: 331 |
I respect Chussodovsky, but am not yet convinced that this is a CIA operation. It's easy to say that everything that happens in the world is planned and executed by the Agency, but I don't think that is necessarily true.
That Wikileaks attempted cooperation with the MSM might also be interpreted to mean that the Wiki people, including Assange, were naively optimistic that the MSM were actually interested in discovering the truth or attacking government secrets and lies. They might have thought that the same spirit that drove the media back in the days of Watergate and the Pentagon Papers still existed? As for censoring/controlling the internet, they don't need any pretenses to do that. When the time comes, they will simply use force. |
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Dec 15 2010, 11:07 PM
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I respect Chussodovsky, but am not yet convinced that this is a CIA operation. It's easy to say that everything that happens in the world is planned and executed by the Agency, but I don't think that is necessarily true.That Wikileaks attempted cooperation with the MSM might also be interpreted to mean that the Wiki people, including Assange, were naively optimistic that the MSM were actually interested in discovering the truth or attacking government secrets and lies. They might have thought that the same spirit that drove the media back in the days of Watergate and the Pentagon Papers still existed?As for censoring/controlling the internet, they don't need any pretenses to do that. When the time comes, they will simply use force. Just how deep Assange is involved in the murky world of Intel is one thing but the manipulation of this will most certainly have the CIA's grubby paws all over it IMO.The leaks are centred around China, Middle East, Russia, etc with some token US "scoops" that we all basically knew anyway. Redacted and censured by the mainstream media by a guy who denies 9/11 in one fell swoop.Has anything been mentioned about 9/11?He is directly connected (his stepfather) to a cult based, and/or financed by possibly the same perpetrators of the MKUltra experiments, with connections to institutionalized Catholic Church child abuse and the previous head of Oz intelligence.If that isn't enough these days to raise an eyebrow I don't know what is mate!http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7TheJPboU4c
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Dec 16 2010, 08:23 AM
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I respect Chussodovsky, but am not yet convinced that this is a CIA operation. It's easy to say that everything that happens in the world is planned and executed by the Agency, but I don't think that is necessarily true. Of course one should never think that the CIA is behind everything for there are many other forces at work trying to get their own POV across by the use of propaganda, infiltration of targeted in-the-way groups and black ops of a more violent nature. However it is clear that the CIA is one of the Big Beasts in this jungle. This is something that Barrie Zwicker makes clear in his Towers of Deception, Zwicker also calls out Noam Chomski for what he is, another smokescreen maker. I have just ben revisiting, whilst laid up with serious illness (a kinda frostbite), my library of Ruppert and Griffin etc., this is always a worthwhile exercise where more dots are occasionally connected. I could have more to say about this shortly but when my hands are in better shape, well at least less painful, as for shape well who knows? Also it should be considered that there really is not anything so simple as a right-left, black-white split and that there are relatively powerful organisations working for the good of the world. People in these tend to recognise that we are all in it together and if the global ecological network was to be disrupted completely, and it has been severely damaged at this point in time, then it will not matter in the end how much money you have, how good a gated compound or stronghold you hid in there will be some survivor who will break in. But then it may work out that the last man standing has only a limited supply of food stocked and once the last other human has been eaten starvation will result. 9/11 is only one aspect of our fight against the darker forces, but I agree with Zwicker, and those driving organisations such as this, that 9/11 and the bodged Commission (itself providing strong evidence of malfeasance in high places) provides us with one of the biggest chinks in the armour of the true 'evildoers'. |
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Dec 16 2010, 10:36 AM
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Group: Valued Member Posts: 3,773 Joined: 14-December 06 From: Fort Pierce, FL Member No.: 331 |
It is entirely possible, perhaps even likely, that the Wiki thing is indeed a CIA operation.
However there has been so much dirty laundry revealed, hurting almost everybody but Israel, that it does not seem quite in character. Virtually every government on the planet, especially the US, is quite embarassed and angered over this. Holder the Hypocrite is beside himself trying to twist the law to get an indictment. I find it very humorous, and cannot yet perceive the advantage gained by the Agency for doing this. I suppose time will tell. I agree that Assange's view of 911 seems odd, but it's possible he is so thoroughly involved in his own activities, for several years running now, that he simply has not examined the evidence. (IMG:http://pilotsfor911truth.org/forum/style_emoticons/default/blink.gif) This post has been edited by amazed!: Dec 16 2010, 10:38 AM |
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Dec 16 2010, 02:13 PM
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Dec 16 2010, 03:18 PM
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If WIkileaks/Assange isn't actually a CIA operation then he is more than likely a useful idiot and for all practical purposes IS working for the CIA. Useful idiots are not only plentiful but are actually cultivated by the FBI/CIA as in the case of 1960's Gloria Steinem and the "feminist movement". Assange may think he's a whistle blower with his reporting of military attrocities in Iraq as in the case of the helcopter shooting of civilians but he also spouts the typical, bleeding heart, in denial, "Oh please don't tell me about your 911 conspiracy theories" drivel. He would be a perfect candidate for a useful idiot. Case in point, look how Wikipedia, another CIA asset advertises for Assange and Wikileaks.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Julian_Assange |
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