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0 Degrees Lateral And Horizontal?

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post Dec 31 2010, 11:52 PM
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What are peoples opinions on this video: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fz5LuUpcCwU
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post Jan 1 2011, 11:37 AM
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It's been known for years that the NIST report is a fraud. I see no particular point in discussing a known fact.

All the trivial points that report claims are virtually meaningless.
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post Jan 1 2011, 11:45 AM
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I'm not too concerned about what NIST or government has to say on the issue.

I want to know if the makers of this video are correct about the way UA175 flew into the building from a aviation/scientific point of view.

This video is suggesting that the aircraft flew in with basically what can be described as 'military precision'

0 degrees horizontal and lateral, is this assertion correct or not?
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post Jan 1 2011, 03:58 PM
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QUOTE (BlueSky @ Jan 1 2011, 10:45 AM) *
I'm not too concerned about what NIST or government has to say on the issue.

I want to know if the makers of this video are correct about the way UA175 flew into the building from a aviation/scientific point of view.

This video is suggesting that the aircraft flew in with basically what can be described as 'military precision'

0 degrees horizontal and lateral, is this assertion correct or not?


I have learned that achimspok is an idiot in my opinion. I would take anything he says with a grain of salt, even if it seems accurate.

If you wish to hear from real pilots and those certified to teach others, click here.

http://pilotsfor911truth.org/forum/index.php?showtopic=19732
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post Jan 1 2011, 11:57 PM
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Thanks for the link to the DVD.
I understand you guys need money etc to keep things going, but im kind of poor, dont have pay pals or cc.
I'm on a mission to inform as many people as possible in my city over the next 9 months about what really happened that day which triggered what seems to be a unstoppable irrational reaction which seems to be just solidified as time goes on and people dont know/dont care why it is we are in these wars and losing our civil rights etc.

I fear after the 10th anniversary, 9/11 will be equated with things like the moon landing or what ever even though it was mass murder and the pretext for trillion dollar wars.

Anyway, free information would be great because my aim is to distribute as much information as possible on the streets and other non internet mediums, I don't want to get in trouble for violation of copyrights or do piracy.

Thanks.
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post Jan 2 2011, 12:21 AM
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QUOTE (BlueSky @ Jan 1 2011, 10:57 PM) *
Thanks for the link to the DVD.
I understand you guys need money etc to keep things going, but im kind of poor, dont have pay pals or cc.
I'm on a mission to inform as many people as possible in my city over the next 9 months about what really happened that day which triggered what seems to be a unstoppable irrational reaction which seems to be just solidified as time goes on and people dont know/dont care why it is we are in these wars and losing our civil rights etc.

I fear after the 10th anniversary, 9/11 will be equated with things like the moon landing or what ever even though it was mass murder and the pretext for trillion dollar wars.

Anyway, free information would be great because my aim is to distribute as much information as possible on the streets and other non internet mediums, I don't want to get in trouble for violation of copyrights or do piracy.

Thanks.



Its not a link to the DVD, its a link to the full film streaming and embedded. You dont need paypal or a cc, all you need is your mouse to click play.
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post Jan 2 2011, 12:34 AM
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QUOTE (rob balsamo @ Jan 2 2011, 12:21 AM) *
Its not a link to the DVD, its a link to the full film streaming and embedded. You dont need paypal or a cc, all you need is your mouse to click play.



Sorry, I only seem to see an image inside a frame, perhaps its my crappy computer, but i have flash enabled etc. (IMG:http://pilotsfor911truth.org/forum/style_emoticons/default/blink.gif)

(i tried to msg you but i dont have enough posts)
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post Jan 2 2011, 12:48 AM
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QUOTE (BlueSky @ Jan 1 2011, 11:34 PM) *
Sorry, I only seem to see an image inside a frame, perhaps its my crappy computer, but i have flash enabled etc. (IMG:http://pilotsfor911truth.org/forum/style_emoticons/default/blink.gif)

(i tried to msg you but i dont have enough posts)



try this....

http://vimeo.com/6679633
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post Jan 5 2011, 07:04 AM
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QUOTE (rob balsamo @ Jan 1 2011, 11:48 PM) *



It doesnt seem to work, still just an image in a iframe, youtube works fine.

Maybe you need to put it on youtube too.

I'm using windows xp btw with firefox
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post Jan 5 2011, 07:10 AM
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QUOTE (BlueSky @ Jan 5 2011, 06:04 AM) *
It doesnt seem to work, still just an image in a iframe, youtube works fine.

Maybe you need to put it on youtube too.

I'm using windows xp btw with firefox



Same here.. works fine for me.

I think someone uploaded it to youtube as well... try a search.
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post Jan 6 2011, 12:46 PM
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QUOTE (BlueSky @ Jan 1 2011, 04:45 AM) *
I'm not too concerned about what NIST or government has to say on the issue.

I want to know if the makers of this video are correct about the way UA175 flew into the building from a aviation/scientific point of view.

This video is suggesting that the aircraft flew in with basically what can be described as 'military precision'

0 degrees horizontal and lateral, is this assertion correct or not?

In fact it was me who asked achimspok to do the 3D simulation on the request of Rob (when I've proposed to look into possible "UA175" G overloads -like in the case of "AA77"- after I learned the "UA175" speed was too high from 84Rades and the NTSB impact speed study based on EWR ASR - Rob asked me to get him some data, so I asked achimspok to do the 3D simulation based on known videos, because I knew he was doing something simmilar, but not scalled one, and my opinion was that the 3D simulation can bring enough exact results to compute the range of overloads during the final "UA175" maneuvre. Then in fact it took several months to get to the simulation.

The simulation doesn't find 0 degrees horizontal and lateral, but 8° lateral, 0° vertical at impact.

The last refined video version was this:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-K-WjsHa_2k

Unfortunately then they've had some quarell with Rob about NOC theory, which I didn't take part in for lack of time -and to me after studying the vast thread is still much more convincing the CIT and P4T finds and I don't much wonder Rob temporarily banned achimspok for misconduct there and for not understanding some quite basic aviation facts which would make the SOC absolutely improbable if the multiple CIT witnesses tell the truth.
But achimspok also did quite alot in debunking the NIST and hologram/TVfakery/no-planers, and he is not aviation professional, so he maybe was too eager to debunk also the NOC and flyover... (IMG:http://pilotsfor911truth.org/forum/style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif)
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post Jan 7 2011, 12:59 AM
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What are:
CIT
NOC
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post Jan 7 2011, 05:55 AM
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QUOTE (BlueSky @ Jan 6 2011, 04:59 PM) *
What are:
CIT
NOC
?

Oups, sorry, I again used the abbrevs (IMG:http://pilotsfor911truth.org/forum/style_emoticons/default/doh1.gif) - CIT is Citizen Investigation Team and NOC is "North of Citgo" - the conclusion based on multiple testimonies to CIT and the Flight Data Recorder data visualization the "AA77" flew on trajectory crossing north side of Pentagon Citgo station and therefore couldn't hit the Pentagon as the official account asserts.
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