Flight Data Expert Confirmation: No Evidence Linking Fdr Data To American 77, FDR Data Exceeds Capabilities Of A 757, Does Not Support Impact Rating Options

[rob balsamo]

Flight Data Expert Confirmation: No Evidence Linking FDR Data to American 77
FDR Data Exceeds Capabilities Of A 757, Does Not Support Impact With Pentagon

(PilotsFor911Truth.org) - Flight Data Recorder Expert Dennis Cimino has confirmed that the data being provided through the Freedom Of Information Act (FOIA) by the National Transportation Safety Board (NTSB) is missing crucial information, which according to Dennis, should be present and link the data to a specific aircraft and fleet. The NTSB provided three sets of data through the FOIA for what they claim is from American 77, N644AA. A csv file, an animation reconstruction and a raw data file. Rob Balsamo of Pilots For 9/11 Truth along with numerous other aviation experts, including trained Aircraft Accident Investigators have analyzed these files and determined they do not support an impact with the Pentagon. The data also exceeds the design limitations and capabilities of a standard 757 by a wide margin. This is based on data, precedent and numerous verified experts, including those who have actual flight time in the aircraft reportedly used for the 9/11 attacks (See - "Flight Of American 77", "9/11: Attack On The Pentagon" and "9/11: World Trade Center Attack" at Pilotsfor911Truth.org for full detailed analysis and interviews).

One file in particular, the compressed binary raw file alleged to be a direct data dump from the Flight Data Recorder, was recently analyzed by an alleged computer expert. He has claimed to decode 4 more seconds worth of data, above and beyond the NTSB decode, although the "additional" data has not been verified by anyone. The claim was made that the reason the NTSB did not decode this "additional" data is because the software used by the NTSB, along with the software used by the manufacturer of the FDR (L3 Communications), has an alleged "bug". If correct, this has grave consequences for Flight Safety as Flight Data is used in the promotion of safe flight through changes in regulation and procedure. The NTSB and L3 have been contacted, along with an Aviation Safety Report being filed with NASA. There hasn't been any reply confirming such a "bug".

A paper was recently published by the mentioned computer "expert" along with an alleged Chemist as the authors. They claim the extra 4 seconds support an impact with the Pentagon. They base this claim on a Radio Altimeter parameter in which the NTSB has listed as "Not Working or Unconfirmed" in the NTSB FDR Report(1). When cross-checked with the "Working and Confirmed" Primary Altimeter True Altitude data, the aircraft is still too high to hit the Pentagon(2). This can only mean that the Radio Altimeter was measuring from an object above ground level.

Radio Altimeters do not guarantee measurement from the ground. The device measures whatever object you are flying over within a certain range (a building, trees... etc). The tracking capability of the Radio altimeter is 330 feet per second, or a little under 200 knots(3). According to the data, the aircraft was traveling at a speed of 460-480 knots. Well outside the limits of the Radio Altimeter tracking capability, not to mention well outside the capabilities of a standard 757.

It is interesting that the authors, editors and Journal in which the above mentioned paper is published is highly critical and skeptical of the National Institute Of Standards And Technology (NIST) data and reports with respect to the collapse of the World Trade Center, yet is now attempting to use unverified data from another government agency to support the government story regarding a Pentagon impact. Motives are even more puzzling especially when the NTSB data in fact does not support an impact while exceeding the performance limitations and capabilities of a standard 757 as set by the manufacturer based on wind tunnel and flight testing, by a wide margin. This is also corroborated by precedent. It is also clear the paper was not reviewed by any aviation expert prior to publish, as it is littered with speculation and gross errors. For more information regarding this paper and the numerous errors it contains, please see the discussion at the Pilots For 9/11 Truth Forum(4).

FDR Expert Dennis Cimino further goes on to state:

[I]t just all comes down to two data fields being zeroed out. no tickee, no laundry. without those, there can... never be any linkage of the FDR to an 'N' number in the F.A.A. registry. not because the 'N' number is in the AC ID field, but the AC ID FIELD number is directly traceable to an N-Number in the F.A.A. registry, and the FLEET ID shows which carrier it went to.

[T]hose missing, that [data] could come from anywhere...


[N]obody flies boxes with that data zero'ed out or missing. without this data in the CPM [Crash Protected Memory], in the preamble, there can be no linkage to an aircraft N-Number.

I saw that on the first look.... the test person who extracted that data should have seen the NO ACFT ID and NO FLEET ID and said; "oh, this is such bullshit" and then asked his supervisor why they were asking him to decode BULLSHIT.

Dennis Cimino experience and qualifications:

Electrical Engineer
Commercial Pilot Rating, since 1981
Navy Combat Systems Specialist: RADAR, ECM, cryptographic communications
Flight Data Recorder Engineer Smiths Aerospace
BA-609, IDARS, Military and Commercial
Millimeter wave RADAR and countermeasures expert since 1973
Two patents held for Doppler RADAR ( Kavouras ):
long pulsewidth RADAR droop compensation network,
and wave guide arc detection for high powered RADAR

Further confirmation that there isn't any evidence linking the FDR data to "American 77", tail number N644AA is discussed here:

Can The Govt Get Their Story Straight? - Location Of Flight Data Recorder

Lies, Conflicting Reports, Cover-Up's - Location of American 77 Flight Data Recorder - Part II

9/11 Aircraft 'black Box' Serial Numbers Mysteriously Absent

Interview With Flight Data Recorder Expert

So, if the data is not from N644AA, does not support an impact at the Pentagon, and in fact exceeds the capabilities and performance of a standard 757, what caused the damage at the Pentagon? That is exactly what Pilots For 9/11 Truth are trying figure out and the reason there needs to be a new and truly independent investigation. Some wish to ignore this data, some without expertise attempt to analyze it while attempting to say, "nothing to see here folks, move along..". Please write your Congressional Representatives and Senators. Call into talk shows, tell them there is a growing list of aviation professionals who question the government version of events on 9/11. Tell them the data being provided through the FOIA does not support the government story.

Founded in August 2006, Pilots For 9/11 Truth is a growing organization of aviation professionals from around the globe. The organization has analyzed Data provided by the National Transportation Safety Board (NTSB) for the Pentagon Attack, the events in Shanksville, PA and the World Trade Center Attack. The data does not support the government story. The NTSB/FBI refuse to comment. Pilots For 9/11 Truth do not offer theory or point blame at this point in time. However, there is a growing mountain of conflicting information and data in which government agencies and officials refuse to acknowledge. Pilots For 9/11 Truth Core member list continues to grow.

http://pilotsfor911truth.org/core.html for full member list.

http://pilotsfor911truth.org/join to join.

(1) http://www.ntsb.gov/info/AAL77_fdr.pdf
(2) http://pilotsfor911truth.org/forum/index.p...&p=10778240
(3) http://www.rockwellcollins.com/ecat/at/LRA-900.html
(4) http://pilotsfor911truth.org/forum/index.php?showtopic=20960

[JamesAt17]

Thank you for your extensive work to provide us with this information. I will tell others. Some will listen, while others will not. Disturbing their cognitive dissonance with proof puts many into an uneasiness or tension that they choose not to deal with. Tell them anyway. "There is nothing more dangerous than personal initiative; if it has the genius behind it, such initiative can do more than can be done by millions of people among whom we have sown discord." A quote from something that I believe they wrote, so telling others upsets their plans and they have to go to plan B. Now, lets get the public to force the governments to stop poisoning our skies with Chemtrails.

[Dennis Cimino]

'JamesAt17' date='Jan 21 2011, 01:22 PM' post='Thank you for your extensive work to provide us with this information. I will tell others. Some will listen, while others will not. Disturbing their cognitive dissonance with proof puts many into an uneasiness or tension that they choose not to deal with.

Thanks, James! and the others who took a good hard look here. I'm sorry the photos can't be pasted in, I don't like the photo bucket links gig, that gives virtually zero control of who can access those pics..but as things about 9/11 are now disappearing and being expunged from the web, those very clear and incredibly stark pics the Frenchman had in his almost immediate and quite cogent rebuttal just days after the false flag attack took place, are in Rob's possession, and I took the liberty to ship the lion's share of my Pentagon photo archive to massive numbers of places so they don't solely reside on my
machine. So they're all over the world now...presumably safe from going down the Ministry of Truth 'rabbit hole' as I call it. In any case, the 'cognitive dissonance' you mention is more like 'cognitive stupidity' and 'cognitive ostrich-ism', because as you might also have noticed, the U.S. Federal Government
is trying, via the Tucson shooting, to pin virtually any and all violent crime on 9/11 TRUTH persons. Yep, we're evil, we are diabolical, and we drink slushee's from 7/11 stores too, making us exceptionally diabolical and evil. *groan* In any case, I was going to write a long cautionary warning, along with an
extension of an 'olive branch' out to Mr. Stutts and Mr. Legge, because I did my best not to point fingers at them. My piece above is not intended to attack anyone except the perpetrators who, now ten years later, are still walking here amongst us as free men. Those perpetrators are at the highest levels of this government, not sitting at computers in Australia or wherever trying to make sense of this crap they sold to most of the nation as reality.

and in extending the 'olive branch' to those guys who I hope will accept it, may be a form of being incredibly naieve on my part, but I don't think Stutts and Legge did their stuff with mal intent for what that's worth. Though they do kind of fit in the Cass Sunstein 'cognitive infiltration' gig that is my 'warning' piece in here tonight as I sit here. I have a warning for this 9/11 Truth movement, and I hope you all heed it.

First, the very highest levels of this government were involved in the treason of that day in September of 2001. Multiple elements of it who aren't just loyal to Richard B. Cheney and his gang of murderers from the Bush administration, but a whole cadre of people not just in NORAD, but in the Joint Chiefs of Staff (Richard Myers comes to mind). Elliott Abrams, Lewis Libby, and Stephen Cambone, and so many others, like Douglas Feith all played pivotal roles in pushing this P.N.A.C. agenda to transform this nation into a no holds barred, military industrial complex dictatorship, ostensibly controlled by
Israel. Oh, I can just see Abe Foxman now on the Fox Noise Channel, with some other nimrod from the S.P.L.C. both chiming in about how we're all here conspiring to overthrow this wonderful and blameless government with our 9/11 Truths. Uh huh, yeah, right..... *groan*

The warning is that Cass Sunstein's 'cognitive infiltration' gig is in motion in this movement. A lot of it has been co-opted, and derailed by these guys who put the zionist agenda ahead of this nation's freedom and liberty, and are willing to murder us to keep that line toed by all of us.

The past week or so, there was a mass shooting in Tucson blamed on all of us. Yep, even those of you who are still fence sitting on this but smelled some form of rat when you saw the Pentagon lawn pictures and no wreckage from any plane. They're in the blogs, and they sometimes come at you as your friend. A case in point was one I had been affiliated with more than three years ago, named Mr. John Farmer, also known as Blue Collar Republican. His modus operandi, if you will, was to win the trust of some of us, and then feed us disinformation and bullshit. For the most part, we bought that bullshit, lock stock and banana peel. Some fellow truthers warned me he was a cointelpro operative, and it turns out that that must be absolutely correct, because I suffered a drive by shooting by him in a snide comment in another blog from him the other day, brought to my attention by another member of this forum.

And the irony was that even though I suspected him as a cointelpro stooge for the government, which he obviously was all along, I always gave him the benefit of the doubt, and never published bad words about his character, his credibility, nor his professionalism. But he breached that trust with me the other day in another blog. And as amazed as I was, I was also sad that I trusted him just a little bit and did give him the benefit of the doubt.

So, my olive branch to Stutts and Legge comes with the warning to you all that this movement has been hijacked in many ways, and the zionists who control the disinfo machine, specifically as Israel did play a pivotal role in what took place on 9/11, and that has been proven, by the way, not conjecture any longer, are active in this allegedly 'new' but not so very new administration, under Cass Sunstein and members of the Dept. of Defense.

So as loathe as I am to not paint Stutts and Legge with that brush, I warn you all that though I have extended the olive branch, as I had once done with Mr. Farmer down in Nashville, TN., that olive branch often will catch fire and burn your hand. The 9/11 Truth movement is a threat to these monsters who did this killing on Sept. 11th. 2001, and is a quintessential threat to the zionists who not only carried the murders out that day, but to the U.S. Federal Government officials, like F.B.I. Director Robert Mueller, who have to this day, shielded and covered for them.

We are under attack not only by these monsters, but those who portend to be bearing good valuable information for us. All of you must never assume
that any apparently innocent feeding of disinformation was strictly a misunderstanding. More often, it's COINTELPRO, the new Cass Sunstein gang, the zionists who did this murder on U.S. soil that day. And they will not stop villifying us, because we are a threat to their continued control of this nation.

Regards,
Dennis C.