9/11gate, "AA77" FDR numerology
Feb 24 2011, 03:37 AM
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I was looking into the "AA77" FDR record to find out how the Lat/Lon coordinates were shifted by Mr. Stutt and Legge to get the plane on the runway. So I've chosen the map closest to 2001 and I've plotted the last "AA77" landing, taxiing in, standing at the gate, taxiing out and the last takeoff:
(The numbers are numbers of subframes in the FDR and they can also serve as a timing, because their step is one second. So for example when you've frame number 145840 and frame number 145860 it means they're 20 seconds from each other. Only point when it is interrupted is when the plane stands, then the FDR is not recording - in our case at the subframe count 146180. The needed data were provided to me by Mr. Warren Stutt)
Everybody sees at the situation picture that the coordinates taken from the FDR are off.
How much off they are?
I was looking what a reference I can find for landing and I've found the point where the plane sharply turned from the runway to the taxi circuit.
From the logic of the landing, the overal visible shift and the trajectory pattern is absolutely clear where it was:
Then I've got a strange idea and I've decided to measure the distance and angle to the position where the plane quite clearly parked to and departed from the gate:
From the distance number is clear that we keep up with the perps at least numerologically... (IMG:http://pilotsfor911truth.org/forum/style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif)
Let's have a break and have a look what number had the gate where the "AA77" was boarded and departed. We easily find it in the Wikipedia:
"The flight boarded through Gate D26, in Midfueld Concourse D at Dulles."
"In 2001, American Airlines Flight 77, a Boeing 757, left gate D26 at Dulles en route to Los Angeles International Airport, but it was hijacked and deliberately crashed into the Pentagon as part of the September 11 attacks."
Let's yet have look into govt. documents...yep, it is there (page 29):
"Flight 77 pushed back from Dulles Gate D-26 at 8:09 A.M."
Boring. Let's go back to our little petty plots.
Now we need to measure the same distance and the same angle from the point where the plane sharply turned to the taxi circuit:
And where the line ends?
Lets look what number the gate has:
It's not completely clear what a number the gate has - we have there two gates:
9 and 11.
Feb 25 2011, 08:49 PM
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I have difficulty understanding many of tume's recent posts. I like to look at all the aerial position maps and charts, but I don't know what it all "means" or how "important" is it really?
I agree with what maturin42 said: (IMG:http://pilotsfor911truth.org/forum/style_emoticons/default/handsdown.gif)
Posted Yesterday, 05:45 PM
Jan - amazing work. It takes a fair investment of time and concentration to follow the argument and the evidence you offer, but it is worth it. At some point, I think it would be a real contribution to do an annotated summary to allow the average person to get the "summation for the jury" version that refers back to your calculations. I had to go through it about three times and I am not certain that I understand it well enough to explain it to someone else or to really grasp all its implications.
Just a suggestion. Again thanks for putting in the work to write it.
Then Rob gives us some helpful info: (IMG:http://pilotsfor911truth.org/forum/style_emoticons/default/handsdown.gif)
Basically the above analysis shows that when the FDR lat/long is corrected for INS drift, it shows that the FDR positional data has the aircraft departing from a gate which conflicts with official reports.
And the subsequent discussion by amazed! OSS and tume have me "convinced" that tume is really "On to Something"? Somehow the "discrepancies" in where the FDR data ENDED seemed "inclusive" to me.
But the analysis that tume now brings to light about the "time and distance offset" discrepancies at the BEGINNING of the FDR data, to determine the "FDR Plane's" departure gate.... is AWESOME! (IMG:http://pilotsfor911truth.org/forum/style_emoticons/default/thumbsup.gif)
And now he's looking for "duplicate" flights from the "multiple departure gates" of AA 77. He's like a BLOODHOUND tracking the trail of an escaped convict....
now he has PICKED UP THE SCENT, and he is HOT ON THE TRAIL...
I can almost hear him HOWLING from here!
Keep up the GOOD WORK tume, and you'll chase the Bad Guys up a tree in NO TIME! (IMG:http://pilotsfor911truth.org/forum/style_emoticons/default/thumbsup.gif) (IMG:http://pilotsfor911truth.org/forum/style_emoticons/default/salute.gif)
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