9/11gate, "AA77" FDR numerology Options

[tumetuestumefais...]

I was looking into the "AA77" FDR record to find out how the Lat/Lon coordinates were shifted by Mr. Stutt and Legge to get the plane on the runway. So I've chosen the map closest to 2001 and I've plotted the last "AA77" landing, taxiing in, standing at the gate, taxiing out and the last takeoff:
(IMG:http://xmarinx.sweb.cz/situation1.png)

(The numbers are numbers of subframes in the FDR and they can also serve as a timing, because their step is one second. So for example when you've frame number 145840 and frame number 145860 it means they're 20 seconds from each other. Only point when it is interrupted is when the plane stands, then the FDR is not recording - in our case at the subframe count 146180. The needed data were provided to me by Mr. Warren Stutt)

Everybody sees at the situation picture that the coordinates taken from the FDR are off.
How much off they are?
I was looking what a reference I can find for landing and I've found the point where the plane sharply turned from the runway to the taxi circuit.

From the logic of the landing, the overal visible shift and the trajectory pattern is absolutely clear where it was:
(IMG:http://xmarinx.sweb.cz/turn.png)

Then I've got a strange idea and I've decided to measure the distance and angle to the position where the plane quite clearly parked to and departed from the gate:
(IMG:http://xmarinx.sweb.cz/1666.66.png)

From the distance number is clear that we keep up with the perps at least numerologically... (IMG:http://pilotsfor911truth.org/forum/style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif)

Let's have a break and have a look what number had the gate where the "AA77" was boarded and departed. We easily find it in the Wikipedia:

"The flight boarded through Gate D26, in Midfueld Concourse D at Dulles."

or here:

"In 2001, American Airlines Flight 77, a Boeing 757, left gate D26 at Dulles en route to Los Angeles International Airport, but it was hijacked and deliberately crashed into the Pentagon as part of the September 11 attacks."

Let's yet have look into govt. documents...yep, it is there (page 29):

"Flight 77 pushed back from Dulles Gate D-26 at 8:09 A.M."

Boring. Let's go back to our little petty plots.

Now we need to measure the same distance and the same angle from the point where the plane sharply turned to the taxi circuit:
(IMG:http://xmarinx.sweb.cz/turn-gate.png)

And where the line ends?
Here:
(IMG:http://xmarinx.sweb.cz/gate-gate.png)

Lets look what number the gate has:
(IMG:http://xmarinx.sweb.cz/IAD-ConcourseD.png)
SOURCE

It's not completely clear what a number the gate has - we have there two gates:
9 and 11.

[rob balsamo]

The Legge/Stutt paper is garbage...

And here are just some of the reasons why...


http://pilotsfor911truth.org/forum/index.p...&p=10794074

http://pilotsfor911truth.org/forum/index.p...&p=10793490

http://pilotsfor911truth.org/forum/index.p...&p=10794159

Richard Gage has sourced the Legge/Stutt paper(s) supporting his "present position" on the Pentagon, indirectly sourcing Mark Roberts and Ryan Mackey (the people who call Richard the "Box Boy" in reference to his WTC collapse analysis using cardboard boxes)

I have contacted Richard via email regarding my concerns. He feels we should just agree to disagree.

I agreed.

[tumetuestumefais...]

The Legge/Stutt paper is garbage...

And here are just some of the reasons why...


http://pilotsfor911truth.org/forum/index.p...&p=10794074

http://pilotsfor911truth.org/forum/index.p...&p=10793490

http://pilotsfor911truth.org/forum/index.p...&p=10794159

Richard Gage has sourced the Legge/Stutt paper(s) supporting his "present position" on the Pentagon, indirectly sourcing Mark Roberts and Ryan Mackey (the people who call Richard the "Box Boy" in reference to his WTC collapse analysis using cardboard boxes)

I have contacted Richard via email regarding my concerns. He feels we should just agree to disagree.

I agreed.

I've sent this email to ae911 some days ago:

Dear Laila,

Recently I've learned Mr. Richard Gage hastily have withdrawed the support for CIT. I think it is a disgrace. Especially for me as one of the supporters of ae911T.

I'm one of the rare people who really dig in the AA77/Pentagon data for years and I must clearly state the conclusions of Mr. Legge and Mr. Stutt which led to this "friendly fire" in the 911 truth movement are almost a total bunk based on misinterpreted altitude Flight Data Recorder (FDR) data with very high confirmation bias. Moreover from the study of the FDR data as well as from the available radar records is now quite clear there is NO official evidence left - except the very fishy lightpoles - to support the "AA77" alleged "impact airpath". Recently found heading divergence in the FDR data (well documented here: http://pilotsfor911truth.org/forum/index.p...howtopic=21101), lat/lon positioning and timing (originally clearly riged by NTSB - see here: http://pilotsfor911truth.org/forum/index.p...howtopic=21076), together with the wind meteo data, DCA (Reagan), ADW (Andrews) radars, closely corroborating each other in both timing and positioning, and the grossly timeshifted 84Rades PLA radar data closely corroborating the later at least in positioning (+the CIT wittnesses) all rule-out the so called "South of Citgo" airpath through the lightpoles alley. So the stance of the CIT is supported - maybe not by R. Gage and ae911, but otherwise by all hard, officially released data concerning "AA77" available, closely corroborating one by each other - although the "flyover" is still just a logical speculation based on rare wittness accounts. Nevertheless the conclusion to the meaning AA77 FDR supports "Official Flight Path Leading to Impact with the Pentagon" is not supported by ANY data, is clearly erroneous, based on gross misinterpretation and data manipulation and so should be immediately withdrawn and at least not parroted further. I would think that it would be good -to save the long built reputation of ae911T - which generally shouldn't take stances in disputes outside expertise and credentials of its core members - not to endorse or seem to endorse such ridiculous claims supported by virtually nothing.

With Best Regards

I, etc.

I've got a reply after several days:

Hi Jan,

Sorry for the very late reply, my internet was down for a few days.

I have passed your note below on to Richard Gage since I cannot answer for him. I'm sorry, but I am not up on all that has gone on in the 9/11 movement as my work with A&E is time consuming and I have a job and family to care for on the side!

As for what did and didn't happen at the Pentagon, I cannot give an opinion because I have not looked more deeply into the situation except to say that the photos I've seen clearly show me something other than a passenger jet hit it.

Again, thank you for your comments below.

Regards,
Laila Selk, verifications.

This shows not even a secretary at ae911 - I'm applauding her to have a courage and write her opinion - believes the brand new stance of her boss