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Overwhelming Evidence Pentagon Aircraft Data Is Not From An American Airlines 757, PilotsFor911Truth.org |
Mar 3 2011, 09:51 PM
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Overwhelming Evidence Pentagon Aircraft Data Is Not From An American Airlines 757
03/03/11 - (PilotsFor911Truth.org) When Pilots For 9/11 Truth was founded in the late summer of 2006, the objective was to find evidence supporting what we have been told by the 9/11 Commission as many theories were rumored that elements within the US Government might have had something to do with 9/11. Co-Founder Rob Balsamo explains how he was puzzled and motivated to pursue further research into the events of 9/11 in his citation at PatriotsQuestion911.com, which lead to the formation of Pilots For 9/11 Truth. More than four years of solid research through Freedom Of Information Act (FOIA) requests, numerous interviews and expert analysis has revealed no hard evidence supporting or linking to -- and in many instances factually conflicting with -- conclusions made by the 9/11 Commission. Now there is overwhelming evidence which suggests the data that is being provided to the public through the FOIA, is not from an aircraft which has been operated by American Airlines. Pilots For 9/11 Truth analysis of data being provided by the National Transportation Safety Board (NTSB) has revealed the data does not support an impact with the Pentagon, exceeds the capabilities of a standard 757/767 by a wide margin, while demonstrating control issues for an "inexperienced pilot" (See 9/11: Attack On The Pentagon, 9/11: World Trade Center Attack, and Flight Of American 77). The data itself does not support what we have been told by the 9/11 Commission. When contacted, the NTSB and the FBI refused to comment. Pilots For 9/11 Truth went on to research if there was any evidence linking the data to N644AA (the aircraft described as "Flight 77"), once again, there is no evidence to support the government version of events(1). Research was also performed to determine if there was any evidence whatsoever linking the limited number of parts found at the Pentagon, to N644AA(2). In an unprecedented turn of events, the parts were never verified by any government agency for any of the four aircraft reported to have been used on 9/11. In all instances, there hasn't been any evidence provided by government agencies to support what we have been told by the 9/11 Commission. Further analysis reveals evidence demonstrating the data provided was not generated by an American Airlines airplane in the case of the attack on the Pentagon. DATA FRAME LAYOUT Pilots For 9/11 Truth have been provided several files through the FOIA. One file in particular, a raw Flight Data Recorder file which is described as a direct download from the FDR, contains binary code which needs to be decoded for a proper readout in a spreadsheet such as Excel. In order to decode such data, a Data Frame Layout is required. Derived from a generic Boeing Data Frame Layout, American Airlines provided it's own custom made Data Frame Layout which was designed for decoding data from aircraft within the American Airlines fleet, based on airline needs exclusive to American Airlines (AAL). The custom made AAL Data Frame Layout was unable to decode the data in full, and in some instances, neither the AAL Data Frame Layoyut nor the generic Boeing Data Frame Layout were able to be utilized in decoding the data(3). Why would American Airlines design their own custom Data Frame Layout if it cannot decode data from their aircraft? Or perhaps the data being provided is not from an American Airlines jet? FLIGHT DECK DOOR Pilots For 9/11 Truth also found, according to the data, there is no evidence suggesting a "Hijack" had occurred. A Flight Deck Door parameter shows the door closed for the entire flight. No evidence has been provided thus far which shows the Flight Deck Door open in order to facilitate a "Hijack".(4) LATITUDE/LONGITUDE Further evidence that the data is not from an American Airlines jet nor American Airlines Flight 77, comes in the form of Latitude and Longitude (Lat/Long) coordinates in the data itself. When plotted, the Lat/Long coordinates are more than 3,000 feet in error at time of departure from Washington Dulles International Airport (IAD). According to American Airlines 757/767 Operating Manual, along with several American Airlines 757/767 Captains, the navigational instruments (known as an IRS or Inertial Reference System), is aligned at the gate, prior to all flights(5). If such an error is observed in an American Airlines airplane, the aircraft is grounded until fixed. It would never leave the gate. If such an error was encountered during taxi to the runway, the Captain would have had to return to the gate until it was fixed.(6) DEPARTURE GATE AND FULL ALIGNMENT According to official reports and audio provided by government agencies, American Airlines Flight 77 departed from Gate D26 at IAD(7). However, when the Lat/Long data is adjusted for the 3,000+ foot offset, the data shows a departure from a gate other than D26(8). American Airlines requires a full alignment (as opposed to a "fast alignment") prior to every flight with the pilots physically inputting the Lat/Long coordinates of the gate, provided by navigational charts, into their navigational system. The aircraft should have never left the gate with such a large error within it's navigational system. Although some aircraft have the ability to update it's position in flight, an "update" is very different from an alignment. Any "updates" in flight will not be accurate if the initial alignment was not achieved at the gate. It is interesting to note that Military Aircraft are capable of in flight alignment of an Inertial Navigation System. AUTO-ALIGNMENT AND GPS Military aircraft were equipped with GPS (Global Positioning Systems) long before GPS was offered for Commercial use. When equipped, they can auto-align the Inertial Reference System. N644AA (American Airlines Flight 77) was not equipped with a GPS. However, when one looks through the data, it shows a GPS as "OPERational"(12) and an airborne auto-alignment. How can a GPS be "OPER" if the data is reported to come from an aircraft which doesn't have a GPS? The data shows that the Lat/Long plots auto-aligned with Radar plots in flight after departure(9). American Airlines aircraft do not have the capability of in flight alignment nor would such an aircraft depart with such a large error and an IRS as it's primary source for navigation. It is impossible for an IRS equipped American Airlines jet to give accurate position information if the system was not aligned at the gate. The aircraft needs to be stationary for proper alignment or else the navigational device will have large errors and could perhaps be fatal(10). According to American Airlines 757/767 Captain Ralph Kolstad who has actual flight time in N644AA, if the Inertial Reference System (IRS) is lost in flight (or shows large errors), an emergency has to be declared. The aircraft is required to sit stationary for more than 10 minutes in order obtain a full alignment of the Inertial Reference System prior to every flight, according to and as required by American Airlines 757/767 Operating Manual(11). How can an auto-align occur airborne if American Airlines aircraft do not have this capability nor a GPS? This is more evidence demonstrating the data did not come from an American Airlines jet. CONCLUSION The data does not support an impact with the Pentagon, does not support a departure from the gate claimed by official reports, if the data was in fact generated by an actual aircraft, it was generated by one which is more advanced than N644AA capability in both avionics (instruments) and performance. Furthermore, the data is not able to be decoded in full by a custom data frame layout made by American Airlines exclusively for their aircraft. The evidence is overwhelming. The data did not come from an American Airlines Jet. Pilots For 9/11 Truth are asked regularly, "If Flight 77 didn't hit the Pentagon, then where did it go?" That is a GREAT question! Pilots For 9/11 Truth recommend demanding answers in order to obtain the data from the aircraft which is claimed to have departed gate D26 at Washington Dulles on the morning of September 11, 2001 and most importantly corresponds through Lat/Long plots to a departure from Gate D26. From there, it can be tracked to where it went! Unfortunately, subpoena power will perhaps be needed to get such information and data, as FOIA requests have been exhausted and the government agencies who have responded to such requests refuse further comment. "We have fulfilled our request. You get what you get, the data we gave you doesn't support our findings? No comment! " has proven to be the case. Lawsuits have been filed by victims of 9/11, particularly one by April Gallop, a survivor from the Pentagon. Pilots For 9/11 Truth have signed an affidavit in support of Ms Gallop along with providing evidence for the case. Now all that is needed is a fair and just Judge willing to look at the evidence before throwing out the case(14). Almost Ten years has elapsed since the events of September 11, 2001. There has been no hard evidence linking the claims made by the 9/11 Commission to their conclusions. Even the 9/11 Commission admits they have been lied to and "Set up to fail"(13). Write your Congress, write your Senators, inform them the data being provided by government agencies through the Freedom Of Information Act does not support the 9/11 Commission findings, show them the overwhelming evidence that the data did not come from an American Airlines jet. Founded in August 2006, Pilots For 9/11 Truth is a growing organization of aviation professionals from around the globe. The organization has analyzed Data provided by the National Transportation Safety Board (NTSB) for the Pentagon Attack, the events in Shanksville, PA and the World Trade Center Attack. The data does not support the government story. The NTSB/FBI refuse to comment. Pilots For 9/11 Truth do not offer theory or point blame at this point in time. However, there is a growing mountain of conflicting information and data in which government agencies and officials refuse to acknowledge. Pilots For 9/11 Truth Core member list continues to grow. (1) Flight Data Expert Confirmation: No Evidence Linking FDR Data to American 77 - http://pilotsfor911truth.org/Dennis-Cimino-AA77-FDR.html (2) Ibid (3) Notes On Parameters - http://www.warrenstutt.com/AAL77FDRDecoder...Parameters.html (4) 9/11: PENTAGON AIRCRAFT HIJACK IMPOSSIBLE - http://pilotsfor911truth.org/american_77_h...impossible.html (5) 757/767 Operating Manual Pre-Flight Checklist - http://pilotsfor911truth.org/forum/index.p...&p=10795614 (6) Expert Statements - http://pilotsfor911truth.org/forum/index.p...&p=10795633 (7) Pilots For Truth Forum - http://pilotsfor911truth.org/forum/index.p...&p=10795631 (8) Aircraft Departure Gate Positional Data Conflicts With Government Story - http://pilotsfor911truth.org/aa77-gate-position.html (9) In Flight Alignment - http://pilotsfor911truth.org/pics/in-flight-align.jpg (10) 757/767 Operating Manual Pre-Flight Checklist - http://pilotsfor911truth.org/forum/index.p...&p=10795614 (11) Ibid (12) Data provided by NTSB - http://pilotsfor911truth.org/p4t/FinalFlightComplete.zip (13) 9/11 Commission Chair Lee Hamilton, "Set up to Fail" - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a0LBARGBupM (14) Pilots For 9/11 Truth Sign Affidavit In Lawsuit Brought By Pentagon Survivor - http://pilotsfor911truth.org/pentagon_lawsuit.html |
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Mar 4 2011, 01:41 PM
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Excellent presentation Rob. You nailed it!
Do I understand correctly that at the time the AA aircraft essentially has a sophisticated ded reckoning system which if this is the case would have to start with the correct DR position. Garbage in + garbage out. So at the gate the captain must match the "read out" of his nav system with the coordinated on a chart and cannot depart the gate if they don't match? Sounds like they can't produce the data because it doesn't actually exist? Do you think they could have done it... produced this data using a simulator? |
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Mar 4 2011, 07:31 PM
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Excellent presentation Rob. You nailed it! Do I understand correctly that at the time the AA aircraft essentially has a sophisticated ded reckoning system which if this is the case would have to start with the correct DR position. Garbage in + garbage out. So at the gate the captain must match the "read out" of his nav system with the coordinated on a chart and cannot depart the gate if they don't match? Sounds like they can't produce the data because it doesn't actually exist? Do you think they could have done it... produced this data using a simulator? SanderO it's worse than that, it must mean there was no real investigation - means the worst of all the possibilities. Excellent compilation Rob. Your perseverance is very appreciated. |
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SanderO it's worse than that, it must mean there was no real investigation - means the worst of all the possibilities. Well let's call it ONE MORE proof there was no real investigation. A few examples of the many other proofs being: * NIST keeping hidden all the photographic evidence of molten steel cascades falling from the WTC in the moments before collapse. Only recently were forced by FOI court order to release them. See: http://everist.org/archives/conspiracy/911..._steel_fall.png http://engforum.pravda.ru/index.php?/topic...absolute-proof/ Of all the proofs this is my favourite, since it is so absolutely undenyable. You see it, you believe. It's a 'gut proof', no arguments, no wiggle room. There were massive amounts of thermite in the buildings, and that means... I don't think this one gets the public exposure it deserves. * No mention in the NIST report of the Building 7 'anomalies.' They couldn't mention B7 because it was absolutely clear B7 was demolished, with an official countdown and pre-announcement by the BBC, using explosives that had to have been placed in the days or weeks beforehand. * All the gold stored in the WTC basement vaults being 'missing', with one last removal truck found caught in a crushed tunnel. * The complete 'disappearance' of all aircraft parts collected at the scenes by the FBI, including the much photographed engine that landed in the NY street. Criminal avoidance of the usual precise identification of the airframes using timed-replacement parts serial numbers. This is one of the most incriminating details of the entire story, because it indicates, with virtual certainty, that the impacting aircraft were NOT the aircraft claimed in the government fable. There is no other possible reason to avoid doing this identification, which is ALWAYS done in every single other air crash investigation. More on this below. * The saga of the 'phone calls', that could never have been. Impossible to make cell phone calls from aircraft at cruising altitude. Every electronics engineer (me included) knew this, and it has been demonstrated in actual practical tests. But the conspirators, being technically ignorant politician/business types, didn't know it. This detail, and his own guilty switching around of the details of his story by Ted Olsen, Bush's Solicitor General, husband of Barbara Olsen and the first to make public claims of receiving phone calls from those on the planes, prove high level government complicity in this scheme. Whether Barbara Olsen is still alive somewhere, or not, who knows? * The story of the FBI agents who were on the trail of the 'hijackers' before the event, but kept being ordered by top level elements in the FBI to back off and not disturb the hijackers in any way. Can't have our gumshoes disturbing the vital patsy setup, now can we? We've got a couple of lovely profitable wars planned, and we need to justify invading, dammit. And so on. There are many more. But back to the non-performance of the customary airframe identification. I suppose everyone here is aware of the Pentagon - Dov Zakheim - System Planning Corporation connection? Briefly, Dov was CEO of SPC, before he became financial comptroller at the Pentagon (and 2 trillion dollars of Pentagon money went missing). Now SPC's business is making remote controlled flight systems, that can be retrofitted to existing airframes. Such as, 737s, of which there are an abundant supply sitting in isolated desert graving fields. From a distance, a 737 looks a lot like a 757. One eyewitness at the Navy Annex near the Pentagon, a man with much experience of commercial airliners and the recognition of them, insists that the plane which flew close by him was *definitely* a 737, not the 757 per the government fable. I suggest that ALL the planes which impacted were 737s, fitted with terminal guidance systems enabling the planes to accurately steer into some kind of target disignators on the precise points they were required to hit. These could have been emplaced Infra-Red homing beacons, or IR laser designated from a distance. With the WTC towers, impact with particular floors close to the location of the major central column demolition pyrotechnics was vital. With the Pentagon, impact at virtual ground level was vital, to ensure the damage was confined to a relatively small area by the pre-strenghtened wall. Also, the location impacted 'just happened' to be the records department, where information was stored such as the records of where that two trillion went, and other awkward details. This is why there was no airframe identification from the recovered parts. Why the airframes alledged to have crashed were, according to official airframe databases, still in use for some years after 911. Why the 'hijackers' never actually got on the planes that day, why all the 'phone calls' were faked, why the autopsy reports have so many discrepancies, why the details of where the flights departed from and if all of them even existed that day, why the 'recovered flight data recorder' data is so bodgey and took so long to be released, why the government employed forum shills are so strident with their 'no planes, Pentagon missile, WTC nukes, holograms, beams from space' and all the other garbage disinformation and sidetracks... It's ALL a desperate fight to stop people from realising that the planes which impacted, were NOT the same planes that took off with passengers. The planes that impacted were old 737s with terminal guidance hardware installed by Dov's System Planning Corp. Flying on inertial navigation waypoint data uploaded via the transponder channel, and switching over to IR guidance on final approach. Painted up to look like the planes they were supposed to be. Other details, like how the swaps were accomplished, whether the passengers were aboard (dead already, or alive) or whether the bodies were provided to the autopsies from elsewhere, what happened to all the aircraft parts and what planes were they REALLY... all these details will remain unclear until we have the well known perpetrators under arrest and interrogation, for Treason, mass murder, war crimes, high financial crimes, and so on. By now it's crystal clear that this is never going to happen, given the obvious total breakdown in the rule of law in the USA, until the US people force their own Egyptian Solution. |
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rob balsamo Overwhelming Evidence Pentagon Aircraft Data Is Not From An American Airlines 757 Mar 3 2011, 09:51 PM
rob balsamo Dont forget to share and tweet at top. Mar 3 2011, 09:53 PM
maturin42 Shared. Outstanding post, Rob. Mar 3 2011, 11:37 PM
Domenick DiMaggio CIT RE: Overwhelming Evidence Pentagon Aircraft Data Is Not From An American Airlines 757 Mar 4 2011, 12:13 AM
IslandPilot I couldn't have said it better myself! Go... Mar 4 2011, 12:36 AM
rob balsamo Arguments from the GL trolls have been moved to he... Mar 4 2011, 01:35 AM
aerohead Nicely manicured and to the point Rob. Well done. Mar 4 2011, 02:26 AM
Atomicbomb The "AUTO-ALIGNMENT AND GPS" section was... Mar 4 2011, 03:09 AM
tumetuestumefaisdubien Niiice. Mar 4 2011, 07:47 AM
Omega892R09 Great post there Rob a very succinct account that ... Mar 4 2011, 07:52 AM
rob balsamo QUOTE (Omega892R09 @ Mar 4 2011, 06:52 AM... Mar 4 2011, 08:03 AM
amazed! A very concise statement Rob! Mar 4 2011, 10:01 AM
Bruce Sinclair Very well done, Rob! Congratulations! Th... Mar 4 2011, 12:14 PM
DANDPT QUOTE (Bruce Sinclair @ Mar 4 2011, 11:14... Mar 4 2011, 01:32 PM
milongal Thanks for this information. Very interesting inde... Mar 4 2011, 04:01 PM
bobcat46 Excellent posting, Rob. This is a very handy piec... Mar 4 2011, 04:03 PM
panthercat Interesting point regarding the GPS discrepancy. ... Mar 4 2011, 05:58 PM
truthmatters Powerful data. Thank you so much for your research... Mar 4 2011, 07:08 PM
remo Powerful work. That NTSB data should prove NOT to ... Mar 4 2011, 09:09 PM
aerohead Rob i just got a chance to view "Intercepted... Mar 5 2011, 05:16 AM
rob balsamo QUOTE (aerohead @ Mar 5 2011, 04:16 AM) R... Mar 5 2011, 09:14 AM
LRon To you professional pilot's and investigator... Mar 5 2011, 09:34 AM
Paul And here is another piece of evidence to add to th... Mar 5 2011, 10:07 AM
wilddaddy Rob,
It is hard for me to read your analysis.
It... Mar 5 2011, 10:10 AM
CuriousGeorge2 This story is PUBLISHED at 911NewsCentral.com.
... Mar 5 2011, 01:26 PM
Bruce Sinclair Hello Rob:
Please excuse my ignorance, but have y... Mar 6 2011, 01:38 AM
rob balsamo QUOTE (Bruce Sinclair @ Mar 6 2011, 12:38... Mar 6 2011, 02:05 AM

Bruce Sinclair Thanks for the links, Rob. I have read through al... Mar 7 2011, 04:59 AM

rob balsamo QUOTE (Bruce Sinclair @ Mar 7 2011, 03:59... Mar 7 2011, 05:10 AM
aerohead QUOTE (Bruce Sinclair @ Mar 6 2011, 12:38... Mar 6 2011, 08:31 AM
onesliceshort Is this link useful (esp for the laymen amongst us... Mar 6 2011, 09:00 AM
rob balsamo QUOTE (onesliceshort @ Mar 6 2011, 08:00 ... Mar 6 2011, 02:18 PM
rob balsamo Ok... there seems to be a bit of confusion out the... Mar 6 2011, 11:20 PM
DonM Rob,
I've been closely following this since Tu... Mar 7 2011, 12:42 AM
rob balsamo QUOTE (DonM @ Mar 6 2011, 11:42 PM) Rob,
... Mar 7 2011, 12:51 AM
DonM OK, thanks.
I didn't realize it was that far o... Mar 7 2011, 01:00 AM
rob balsamo QUOTE (DonM @ Mar 7 2011, 12:00 AM) OK, t... Mar 7 2011, 01:04 AM
DonM Well, we now know that the entire FDR data set is ... Mar 7 2011, 02:01 AM
rob balsamo QUOTE (DonM @ Mar 7 2011, 01:01 AM) The F... Mar 7 2011, 02:14 AM
DonM QUOTE (rob balsamo @ Mar 6 2011, 10:14 PM... Mar 7 2011, 01:23 PM
rob balsamo Here is more information which supports what Capt ... Mar 7 2011, 02:41 AM
tumetuestumefaisdubien I was just looking back into the 84Rades data and ... Mar 7 2011, 12:45 PM
23investigator QUOTE (tumetuestumefaisdubien @ Mar 8 2011, 0... Mar 7 2011, 06:54 PM
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tumetuestumefaisdubien QUOTE (23investigator @ Mar 7 2011, 10:54... Mar 8 2011, 06:47 AM
amazed! ....assuming that the "investigation" is... Mar 7 2011, 04:51 PM
maturin42 The relevance of the data is due to the nature of ... Mar 7 2011, 05:17 PM
rob balsamo QUOTE (maturin42 @ Mar 7 2011, 04:17 PM) ... Mar 7 2011, 06:15 PM
onesliceshort QUOTE (DonM)You can't be saying this part of t... Mar 7 2011, 06:33 PM
rob balsamo Just wanted to consolidate and move these quotes t... Mar 8 2011, 09:02 PM
rob balsamo QUOTE (rob balsamo @ Mar 8 2011, 08:02 PM... Mar 9 2011, 08:00 AM
albertchampion i have often labeled jose padilla as the man in th... Mar 9 2011, 02:01 AM
tumetuestumefaisdubien Hi Albert, with all the respect to the ideas laid ... Mar 9 2011, 02:39 AM
albertchampion i can explain. this board is getting closer to tru... Mar 9 2011, 03:25 AM
Maha Mantra What about Flight 93's start position ?
The... Mar 9 2011, 04:16 AM
rob balsamo QUOTE (Maha Mantra @ Mar 9 2011, 03:16 AM... Mar 9 2011, 07:32 AM

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Johnny Angel QUOTE (rob balsamo @ Mar 7 2011, 10:44 PM... Mar 9 2011, 09:27 PM
tumetuestumefaisdubien QUOTE (Maha Mantra @ Mar 8 2011, 08:16 PM... Mar 9 2011, 07:33 AM
amazed! So in the Dulles arrangement, each gate is separat... Mar 9 2011, 03:40 PM
dMole QUOTE (amazed! @ Mar 9 2011, 12:40 PM... Mar 9 2011, 03:52 PM

Omega892R09 QUOTE (dMole @ Mar 7 2011, 06:52 PM) Isn... Mar 9 2011, 06:22 PM

rob balsamo QUOTE (dMole @ Mar 9 2011, 02:52 PM) Isn... Mar 9 2011, 06:33 PM

IslandPilot I think "Disinformation" is a better des... Apr 5 2011, 02:45 PM

rob balsamo QUOTE (IslandPilot @ Apr 5 2011, 02:45 PM... Apr 12 2011, 09:18 AM
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rob balsamo QUOTE (dMole @ Mar 10 2011, 01:44 AM) Now... Mar 10 2011, 05:02 AM

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rob balsamo QUOTE (dMz @ Mar 10 2011, 02:55 PM) and i... Mar 10 2011, 04:19 PM


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tumetuestumefaisdubien QUOTE (rob balsamo @ Mar 9 2011, 10:02 PM... Mar 11 2011, 12:28 PM
tumetuestumefaisdubien QUOTE (dMole @ Mar 9 2011, 07:44 PM) Now ... Mar 11 2011, 12:09 PM
amazed! Thanks dMole, good to see you. Mar 9 2011, 04:07 PM
mrmitosis I have one detractor claiming that Dulles airport ... Mar 9 2011, 11:49 PM
rob balsamo QUOTE (mrmitosis @ Mar 9 2011, 10:49 PM) ... Mar 10 2011, 12:30 AM
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tnemelckram Simply outstanding!
QUOTE It all started here... Mar 10 2011, 07:54 PM
paranoia since we are on the topic of:
a- dulles airport
b... Mar 13 2011, 04:49 AM
lipsmalloy QUOTE (paranoia @ Mar 11 2011, 06:49 AM) ... Aug 22 2011, 07:26 AM
amazed! Fascinating bio there on MJBooth. Sounds like a C... Mar 13 2011, 04:45 PM
juxtaposition Hi!
Maybe I missed it in this discussion, but... Mar 15 2011, 12:16 PM
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LaBTop From the 757 - 200/300 Flight Crew Operations Manu... Apr 4 2011, 03:11 PM
rob balsamo QUOTE (LaBTop @ Apr 4 2011, 03:11 PM) Fro... Apr 4 2011, 03:17 PM
LaBTop I am with you on this subject, don't worry, we... Apr 4 2011, 03:39 PM
rob balsamo QUOTE (LaBTop @ Apr 4 2011, 03:39 PM) Her... Apr 4 2011, 03:49 PM
rob balsamo The rest of this "debate" with LaBTop ha... Apr 5 2011, 12:07 AM
amazed! Thanks IP, fascinating information there. I can j... Apr 5 2011, 03:27 PM
rob balsamo Im bumping this as some people have contacted me h... Aug 8 2011, 03:54 AM
DAV_Pilot Great analysis (as usual), but there are a few min... Aug 22 2011, 02:46 PM
amazed! Welcome DAV Pilot!
I love having another En... Aug 22 2011, 04:50 PM
SeniorTrend DATA FRAME LAYOUT
Pilots For 9/11 Truth have bee... Sep 20 2011, 01:34 PM
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