Pentagon Lawn Images, Chronological order |
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 Mar 7 2011, 12:20 PM
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In all of these pictures, I don't see any piece of B-757 larger than one or two persons could carry. Where are the wing tips and vertical stabilizer pieces? They are always left over in a crash, no matter how violent.
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Mar 7 2011, 03:52 PM
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QUOTE (bobcat46 @ Mar 7 2011, 05:20 PM)  In all of these pictures, I don't see any piece of B-757 larger than one or two persons could carry. Where are the wing tips and vertical stabilizer pieces? They are always left over in a crash, no matter how violent. The entire southern area of the lawn to the heliport area contains just one piece of "debris" from all of the images I have found so far taken within minutes of the explosion. We have to remember that this or any other "debris" has not been identified. F.B.I. Counsel: No Records Available Revealing ID Process Of Recovered 9/11 Plane Wreckage The piece that Obwon mentions is also questionable because not only is it "isolated" but because it appears to crop up in different positions (I can't confirm that until I find clearer images of it in respect to the background). http://www.dodmedia.osd.mil/Assets/Still/2...D-02-03879.JPEG and http://criticalthrash.com/terror/P1010017.JPG As regards the physics of it, the OCT has the aircraft on a path contrary to witness reports in the area, travelling at 540mph (ASCE report and gatecam) and that it allegedly penetrated through to "C Ring" in 0.8 seconds (as per Creed and Newman) QUOTE ¨It took only eight-tenths of a second for American Airlines Flight 77 to strike the outer wall of the Pentagon, penetrate the concentric E, D and C Rings, collapse upon itself like an accordion and ignite chaos. The jet spewed thousands of gallons of fuel through hallways, offices and meeting rooms inside the nation's premier defense installation -- into every place that airborne mist could go on the wings of an enormous shock wave. A series of explosions sent an ominous mushroom-shaped cloud into the air.¨ The fireball itself took a full 5 seconds to reach full expansion according to the fire report and highly dubious gatecam. So how could a deflagration that didn't reach its peak for 5 seconds and which was claimed to have consisted of 15% of fuel load and initiated outside by the ASCE Report... QUOTE The wing fuel tanks are located primarily within the inner half of the wings.The center of gravity of these tanks is approximately one-third of the wing length from the fuselage. Considering this tank position and the physical evidence of the length of each wing that could not have entered the building, it appears likely that not more than half of the fuel in the right wing could have entered the building. While the full volume of the left wing tank was within the portion of the wing that might have entered the building, some of the fuel from all tanks rebounded upon impact and contributed to the fireball. Only a portion of the fuel from the left and right wing tanks and the center fuselage tank actually entered the building. Clearly, some of the fuel on the aircraft at impact did not enter the building, either because it was in those portions of the wings that were severed by the impact with the facade or with objects just outside of the building, or because it was deflected away from the building upon impact with the facade; that fuel burned outside the building in the initial fireball. Based on images captured by the Pentagon security camera, which showed the aircraft approaching and the subsequent explosion and fireball, it is estimated that about 4,900 lb (2,200 kg) of jet fuel was involved in the prompt fire and was consumed at the time of impact outside the building.This leaves about 30,400 lb (13,800 kg) as the estimated mass, M, of the jet A fuel that entered the building and contributed to the fire fuel load within the building. (I recommend reading all of the passage above, then look at the images above again..) ...have had any effect on the piece above during such a "penetration" through an area twice the length of the aircraft? How could this piece have been blown back against all of the alleged forward motion kinetic energy? They've made this shit up as they went along. |
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onesliceshort Pentagon Lawn Images Mar 6 2011, 05:37 PM
onesliceshort Edit - images taken from the Imgur site around 12/... Mar 6 2011, 11:18 PM onesliceshort QUOTE NOTE: Crosscheck with:
http://www.dodmedia.... Mar 6 2011, 11:53 PM 23investigator QUOTE (onesliceshort @ Mar 7 2011, 08:07 ... Mar 7 2011, 01:17 AM Obwon QUOTE (onesliceshort @ Mar 6 2011, 04:37 ... Mar 7 2011, 08:13 AM
23investigator QUOTE (Obwon @ Mar 7 2011, 09:43 PM) This... Mar 7 2011, 08:53 AM Obwon QUOTE (23investigator @ Mar 7 2011, 07:53... Mar 7 2011, 12:06 PM 23investigator QUOTE (Obwon @ Mar 8 2011, 02:36 AM) Yes,... Mar 7 2011, 05:48 PM onesliceshort Thanks guys.
Robert, I respect your opinion but I... Mar 7 2011, 11:43 AM Obwon QUOTE (onesliceshort @ Mar 7 2011, 10:43 ... Mar 7 2011, 12:22 PM Obwon QUOTE (bobcat46 @ Mar 7 2011, 11:20 AM) I... Mar 7 2011, 12:33 PM 23investigator QUOTE (onesliceshort @ Mar 8 2011, 06:22 ... Mar 7 2011, 05:54 PM onesliceshort No probs Robert.
I remembered seeing a thread by ... Mar 7 2011, 11:28 PM Obwon QUOTE (onesliceshort @ Mar 7 2011, 10:28 ... Mar 8 2011, 08:24 AM Obwon QUOTE (onesliceshort @ Mar 7 2011, 10:28 ... Mar 8 2011, 08:42 AM onesliceshort The "nomadic debris", post collapse... ... Mar 8 2011, 05:52 PM SwingDangler QUOTE (onesliceshort @ Mar 6 2011, 08:52 ... Mar 15 2011, 09:26 PM KP50 G'day OSS,
That is something that has always ... Mar 8 2011, 06:28 PM onesliceshort QUOTE (KP50 @ Mar 8 2011, 11:28 PM) G... Mar 8 2011, 11:06 PM KP50 QUOTE (onesliceshort @ Mar 9 2011, 04:06 ... Mar 9 2011, 02:23 AM signalfire Has anyone identified this:
http://i277.photobuc... Mar 9 2011, 03:46 AM dMole QUOTE (signalfire @ Mar 9 2011, 12:46 AM)... Mar 9 2011, 07:28 AM Obwon QUOTE (onesliceshort @ Mar 8 2011, 10:06 ... Mar 9 2011, 09:16 AM signalfire Oh, and just as an addendum, I've been scourin... Mar 9 2011, 04:07 AM onesliceshort QUOTE (dMole)http://pilotsfor911truth.org/forum/in... Mar 9 2011, 11:37 AM onesliceshort Now I know this whatever it is, doesn't appear... Mar 9 2011, 12:25 PM signalfire @signalfire...
Where did you think you saw a body... Mar 9 2011, 03:24 PM onesliceshort Further confirmation that the "mystery plane ... Mar 11 2011, 10:00 AM kawika THE CONSTRUCTION FENCE IS BLOWN AWAY FROM THE WALL... Mar 12 2011, 11:20 AM kawika QUOTE (kawika @ Mar 10 2011, 02:20 PM) TH... Mar 12 2011, 11:33 AM 23investigator QUOTE (kawika @ Mar 13 2011, 02:03 AM) TH... Mar 12 2011, 05:31 PM onesliceshort QUOTE (kawika @ Mar 12 2011, 04:33 PM) TH... Mar 12 2011, 06:41 PM dMz QUOTE (kawika @ Mar 12 2011, 09:20 AM) TH... Mar 13 2011, 07:22 PM kawika Anybody know the name of the photographer in white... Mar 12 2011, 06:59 PM onesliceshort QUOTE (kawika @ Mar 12 2011, 11:59 PM) An... Mar 12 2011, 07:14 PM IslandPilot QUOTE (kawika @ Mar 12 2011, 05:59 PM) An... Mar 16 2011, 06:38 PM onesliceshort They say images speak louder than words...
... Mar 12 2011, 07:06 PM onesliceshort QUOTE They say images speak louder than words...
... Mar 12 2011, 09:24 PM onesliceshort Propane gas container from "gurney" imag... Mar 12 2011, 10:04 PM kawika Oneslice, could we get you to put red boxes around... Mar 13 2011, 12:45 AM onesliceshort QUOTE (kawika @ Mar 13 2011, 05:45 AM) On... Mar 13 2011, 09:48 AM dMz QUOTE (onesliceshort @ Mar 13 2011, 06:48... Mar 13 2011, 02:22 PM dMz QUOTE (dMz @ Mar 13 2011, 11:22 AM) So to... Mar 13 2011, 02:52 PM kawika QUOTE (dMz @ Mar 11 2011, 04:52 PM) Now l... Mar 13 2011, 03:20 PM onesliceshort QUOTE (dMz @ Mar 13 2011, 07:52 PM) Is th... Mar 13 2011, 09:08 PM dMz Psst- is there some fucking REASON that everyone k... Mar 20 2011, 07:09 AM dMz QUOTE (dMz @ Mar 20 2011, 05:09 AM) Psst-... Mar 20 2011, 08:24 AM kawika An image of the forktruck, standing up, and traile... Mar 13 2011, 02:20 PM dMz QUOTE (kawika @ Mar 13 2011, 12:20 PM) An... Mar 14 2011, 01:14 PM kawika Here is a swell collection of HI-RES photos.
ht... Mar 13 2011, 04:11 PM kawika Pretty good aerial photos of trailers from about 8... Mar 13 2011, 05:17 PM BarryWilliamsmb QUOTE (kawika @ Mar 11 2011, 07:17 PM) Pr... Mar 14 2011, 08:42 PM onesliceshort Ah! Nice catch (again) Kawika. There must be m... Mar 13 2011, 09:38 PM onesliceshort QUOTE (OSS)Ah! Nice catch (again) Kawika. Ther... Mar 13 2011, 10:54 PM dMz QUOTE (onesliceshort @ Mar 13 2011, 08:54... Mar 14 2011, 12:36 PM onesliceshort What are those "piling posts" for d? I... Mar 14 2011, 01:07 PM dMz QUOTE (onesliceshort @ Mar 14 2011, 11:07... Mar 14 2011, 01:23 PM onesliceshort QUOTE (dMz @ Mar 14 2011, 06:23 PM) I... Mar 14 2011, 11:39 PM dMz QUOTE (onesliceshort @ Mar 14 2011, 09:39... Mar 15 2011, 03:15 PM onesliceshort Now for the spools and trailer...
EDIT: The bel... Mar 14 2011, 11:59 PM IslandPilot QUOTE (onesliceshort @ Mar 14 2011, 10:59... Mar 16 2011, 10:00 PM dMz QUOTE (IslandPilot @ Mar 16 2011, 08:00 P... Mar 19 2011, 06:26 PM onesliceshort I had always believed this guy Creed was an office... Mar 15 2011, 05:58 PM SwingDangler Sir, if you could do the time line events using th... Mar 15 2011, 08:29 PM onesliceshort QUOTE (SwingDangler @ Mar 16 2011, 01:29 ... Mar 15 2011, 11:06 PM onesliceshort Shots of facade, generator trailer and spools in c... Mar 15 2011, 11:58 PM onesliceshort Can anybody work out the exact placement of the al... Mar 16 2011, 12:27 PM kawika I think we agree the forklift was in the impact ar... Mar 16 2011, 02:03 PM dMz QUOTE (kawika @ Mar 16 2011, 12:03 PM) Ed... Mar 16 2011, 03:45 PM onesliceshort And compare that to the immediate inferno allegedl... Mar 16 2011, 04:59 PM kawika QUOTE I disagree Kawika.
I believe it was in that ... Mar 16 2011, 07:40 PM onesliceshort QUOTE (Kawika)Clarification, please. In that origi... Mar 16 2011, 11:02 PM onesliceshort QUOTE (Islandpilot)http://i.imgur.com/CZ3hx.jpg
H... Mar 16 2011, 11:20 PM IslandPilot QUOTE (onesliceshort @ Mar 16 2011, 10:20... Mar 17 2011, 12:57 AM IslandPilot OSS: More pics of Forklift, on its side, after col... Mar 16 2011, 11:45 PM IslandPilot OSS said:
QUOTE Oh, I know. The forklift flew in t... Mar 17 2011, 12:15 AM dMz Moved & merged 5 generator-specific posts to t... Mar 17 2011, 02:40 AM onesliceshort QUOTE (IslandPilot)BTW: What high pressure hoses??... Mar 17 2011, 05:32 PM kawika QUOTE (onesliceshort @ Mar 15 2011, 07:32... Mar 17 2011, 05:46 PM onesliceshort QUOTE (kawika @ Mar 17 2011, 10:46 PM) Ex... Mar 17 2011, 06:28 PM kawika QUOTE (onesliceshort @ Mar 15 2011, 08:28... Mar 17 2011, 07:34 PM onesliceshort IslandPilot, my problem with the "wing impact... Mar 17 2011, 06:17 PM IslandPilot Mr. Forklift truck is lying down after after his h... Mar 17 2011, 07:45 PM 23investigator QUOTE (IslandPilot @ Mar 18 2011, 09:15 A... Mar 17 2011, 10:06 PM kawika LETS LOOK AT THE WINDOW BLINDS
We see a lot of wh... Mar 17 2011, 09:50 PM 23investigator QUOTE (kawika @ Mar 18 2011, 11:20 AM) LE... Mar 17 2011, 10:26 PM IslandPilot Back to our friend Mr. forklift:
Here he lies aft... Mar 18 2011, 02:17 PM IslandPilot OSS: Your dimentional anylsis and conclusions in ... Mar 18 2011, 03:37 PM IslandPilot I have many "problems" with this next pi... Mar 18 2011, 06:20 PM onesliceshort Here's the money shot. I think this is the act... Mar 18 2011, 06:53 PM onesliceshort QUOTE (onesliceshort)I think this is the actual fo... Mar 19 2011, 05:07 PM kawika FORKLIFT location on a plan of the Pentagon showin... Mar 19 2011, 07:19 PM paranoia i uploaded this pic around 2007-08, but wasnt able... Mar 19 2011, 11:58 PM Aldo Marquis CIT RE: Pentagon Lawn Images Mar 20 2011, 02:06 AM 23investigator QUOTE (Aldo Marquis CIT @ Mar 20 2011, 03... Mar 20 2011, 04:10 AM onesliceshort QUOTE (Aldo Marquis CIT @ Mar 20 2011, 07... Mar 20 2011, 02:13 PM onesliceshort QUOTE Psst- is there some fucking REASON that ever... Mar 20 2011, 10:14 AM onesliceshort QUOTE (paranoia)i uploaded this pic around 2007-08... Mar 20 2011, 01:42 PM
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