Pentagon Lawn Images, Chronological order |
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 Mar 7 2011, 11:28 PM
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No probs Robert.
I remembered seeing a thread by a former poster here (SPreston) on the alleged debris in question. The only piece of debris to be found within the entire Southern area of the lawn. It was taken on 13/9 by Congresswoman Shelley Berkley (D-Nevada) who uploaded it to her website (since removed). http://i277.photobucket.com/albums/kk43/SP...reliefplmw9.jpg It's the only photograph of its sort. It wasn't used in the Massaoui trial. Nor in the official Defense Department Pentagon 9-11 book. Nor in any official capacity. Why was this allegedly left there for 3 days while FBI and others were seen scurrying around in the immediate aftermath "picking" pieces off the lawn? When lines of agents "scoured" the scene and removed "evidence"? Government loyalists don't use it at their sites. Why do they prefer to argue over ambiguous twisted aluminium and alleged parts from the "engine" when they allegedly have a more recognizable chunk of (unidentified) aircraft frame? Is it the same reason they ignore this alleged damage? (IMG:http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_j1WCY4T_2yI/SO2ic9wDjSI/AAAAAAAADLg/rPT6_avAb0g/s400/car%20damage%20on%20route%2027%20supposedly%20from%20an%20aircraft%20part%20on%209%2011%20Pentagon.jpg) Where does this fit into the scheme of things?? It couldn't have been struck by lightpoles. The only masonry described along Route 27 was "pebble sized". What sort of force would be necessary to cause the damage? Something extremely heavy, falling from a great height. Nothing of the sort was reported. The photographer was also responsible for a much publicized image of "debris" that he claimed was a "wing actuator" (IMG:http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_j1WCY4T_2yI/SO2idCgFj9I/AAAAAAAADL4/uFFz9lZm844/s1600/platts%20photo%20of%20an%20aircraft%20rotor%20part%20on%209%2011%20Pentagon.jpg) They were both allegedly found to the far North of the Pentagon. This is his "map": (IMG:http://img684.imageshack.us/img684/7141/plattmap.png) Source The guy claims to be a "freelance photographer" who had access to the entire scene while others were lead off in handcuffs or had their cameras removed. ETA: Obwon, what makes you think that the abovementioned debris is from the fuselage? (Honest question) |
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Mar 8 2011, 08:42 AM
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Group: Active Forum Pilot Posts: 527 Joined: 29-November 09 From: NYC Member No.: 4,712 |
QUOTE (onesliceshort @ Mar 7 2011, 10:28 PM)  <snips> ETA: Obwon, what makes you think that the abovementioned debris is from the fuselage? (Honest question) Oops... Just waking up! I see there's another way to interpret the question. Okay, to be safe I'll just say that it's because of the American Airlines logo fragment on it. I believe that, if it were a true part from the supposed plane that crashed, it would have been forward of the tail section. If that is true, then the location of it, outside the building, seems to say that it departed the craft, before the craft was engulfed by the building. If the above is true, then logically, the already-weak connection, of the tail section to the aircraft, has become even weaker, as the fuselage connection has begun to disintegrate. If I had to wager on how an aircraft would disintegrate on impact, I'd have to put my money on a "non-uniform" decay. I believe one has a reason to seriously doubt that a "non-uniform" decay, would result in a symmetrical crash result. Like the tail section continuing on the straight in path, as opposed to flopping around and landing outside, like the fuselage parts ahead of it. Obwon |
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onesliceshort Pentagon Lawn Images Mar 6 2011, 05:37 PM
onesliceshort Edit - images taken from the Imgur site around 12/... Mar 6 2011, 11:18 PM onesliceshort QUOTE NOTE: Crosscheck with:
http://www.dodmedia.... Mar 6 2011, 11:53 PM 23investigator QUOTE (onesliceshort @ Mar 7 2011, 08:07 ... Mar 7 2011, 01:17 AM Obwon QUOTE (onesliceshort @ Mar 6 2011, 04:37 ... Mar 7 2011, 08:13 AM
23investigator QUOTE (Obwon @ Mar 7 2011, 09:43 PM) This... Mar 7 2011, 08:53 AM Obwon QUOTE (23investigator @ Mar 7 2011, 07:53... Mar 7 2011, 12:06 PM 23investigator QUOTE (Obwon @ Mar 8 2011, 02:36 AM) Yes,... Mar 7 2011, 05:48 PM onesliceshort Thanks guys.
Robert, I respect your opinion but I... Mar 7 2011, 11:43 AM Obwon QUOTE (onesliceshort @ Mar 7 2011, 10:43 ... Mar 7 2011, 12:22 PM bobcat46 In all of these pictures, I don't see any piec... Mar 7 2011, 12:20 PM Obwon QUOTE (bobcat46 @ Mar 7 2011, 11:20 AM) I... Mar 7 2011, 12:33 PM onesliceshort QUOTE (bobcat46 @ Mar 7 2011, 05:20 PM) I... Mar 7 2011, 03:52 PM 23investigator QUOTE (onesliceshort @ Mar 8 2011, 06:22 ... Mar 7 2011, 05:54 PM Obwon QUOTE (onesliceshort @ Mar 7 2011, 10:28 ... Mar 8 2011, 08:24 AM onesliceshort The "nomadic debris", post collapse... ... Mar 8 2011, 05:52 PM SwingDangler QUOTE (onesliceshort @ Mar 6 2011, 08:52 ... Mar 15 2011, 09:26 PM KP50 G'day OSS,
That is something that has always ... Mar 8 2011, 06:28 PM onesliceshort QUOTE (KP50 @ Mar 8 2011, 11:28 PM) G... Mar 8 2011, 11:06 PM KP50 QUOTE (onesliceshort @ Mar 9 2011, 04:06 ... Mar 9 2011, 02:23 AM signalfire Has anyone identified this:
http://i277.photobuc... Mar 9 2011, 03:46 AM dMole QUOTE (signalfire @ Mar 9 2011, 12:46 AM)... Mar 9 2011, 07:28 AM Obwon QUOTE (onesliceshort @ Mar 8 2011, 10:06 ... Mar 9 2011, 09:16 AM signalfire Oh, and just as an addendum, I've been scourin... Mar 9 2011, 04:07 AM onesliceshort QUOTE (dMole)http://pilotsfor911truth.org/forum/in... Mar 9 2011, 11:37 AM onesliceshort Now I know this whatever it is, doesn't appear... Mar 9 2011, 12:25 PM signalfire @signalfire...
Where did you think you saw a body... Mar 9 2011, 03:24 PM onesliceshort Further confirmation that the "mystery plane ... Mar 11 2011, 10:00 AM kawika THE CONSTRUCTION FENCE IS BLOWN AWAY FROM THE WALL... Mar 12 2011, 11:20 AM kawika QUOTE (kawika @ Mar 10 2011, 02:20 PM) TH... Mar 12 2011, 11:33 AM 23investigator QUOTE (kawika @ Mar 13 2011, 02:03 AM) TH... Mar 12 2011, 05:31 PM onesliceshort QUOTE (kawika @ Mar 12 2011, 04:33 PM) TH... Mar 12 2011, 06:41 PM dMz QUOTE (kawika @ Mar 12 2011, 09:20 AM) TH... Mar 13 2011, 07:22 PM kawika Anybody know the name of the photographer in white... Mar 12 2011, 06:59 PM onesliceshort QUOTE (kawika @ Mar 12 2011, 11:59 PM) An... Mar 12 2011, 07:14 PM IslandPilot QUOTE (kawika @ Mar 12 2011, 05:59 PM) An... Mar 16 2011, 06:38 PM onesliceshort They say images speak louder than words...
... Mar 12 2011, 07:06 PM onesliceshort QUOTE They say images speak louder than words...
... Mar 12 2011, 09:24 PM onesliceshort Propane gas container from "gurney" imag... Mar 12 2011, 10:04 PM kawika Oneslice, could we get you to put red boxes around... Mar 13 2011, 12:45 AM onesliceshort QUOTE (kawika @ Mar 13 2011, 05:45 AM) On... Mar 13 2011, 09:48 AM dMz QUOTE (onesliceshort @ Mar 13 2011, 06:48... Mar 13 2011, 02:22 PM dMz QUOTE (dMz @ Mar 13 2011, 11:22 AM) So to... Mar 13 2011, 02:52 PM kawika QUOTE (dMz @ Mar 11 2011, 04:52 PM) Now l... Mar 13 2011, 03:20 PM onesliceshort QUOTE (dMz @ Mar 13 2011, 07:52 PM) Is th... Mar 13 2011, 09:08 PM dMz Psst- is there some fucking REASON that everyone k... Mar 20 2011, 07:09 AM dMz QUOTE (dMz @ Mar 20 2011, 05:09 AM) Psst-... Mar 20 2011, 08:24 AM kawika An image of the forktruck, standing up, and traile... Mar 13 2011, 02:20 PM dMz QUOTE (kawika @ Mar 13 2011, 12:20 PM) An... Mar 14 2011, 01:14 PM kawika Here is a swell collection of HI-RES photos.
ht... Mar 13 2011, 04:11 PM kawika Pretty good aerial photos of trailers from about 8... Mar 13 2011, 05:17 PM BarryWilliamsmb QUOTE (kawika @ Mar 11 2011, 07:17 PM) Pr... Mar 14 2011, 08:42 PM onesliceshort Ah! Nice catch (again) Kawika. There must be m... Mar 13 2011, 09:38 PM onesliceshort QUOTE (OSS)Ah! Nice catch (again) Kawika. Ther... Mar 13 2011, 10:54 PM dMz QUOTE (onesliceshort @ Mar 13 2011, 08:54... Mar 14 2011, 12:36 PM onesliceshort What are those "piling posts" for d? I... Mar 14 2011, 01:07 PM dMz QUOTE (onesliceshort @ Mar 14 2011, 11:07... Mar 14 2011, 01:23 PM onesliceshort QUOTE (dMz @ Mar 14 2011, 06:23 PM) I... Mar 14 2011, 11:39 PM dMz QUOTE (onesliceshort @ Mar 14 2011, 09:39... Mar 15 2011, 03:15 PM onesliceshort Now for the spools and trailer...
EDIT: The bel... Mar 14 2011, 11:59 PM IslandPilot QUOTE (onesliceshort @ Mar 14 2011, 10:59... Mar 16 2011, 10:00 PM dMz QUOTE (IslandPilot @ Mar 16 2011, 08:00 P... Mar 19 2011, 06:26 PM onesliceshort I had always believed this guy Creed was an office... Mar 15 2011, 05:58 PM SwingDangler Sir, if you could do the time line events using th... Mar 15 2011, 08:29 PM onesliceshort QUOTE (SwingDangler @ Mar 16 2011, 01:29 ... Mar 15 2011, 11:06 PM onesliceshort Shots of facade, generator trailer and spools in c... Mar 15 2011, 11:58 PM onesliceshort Can anybody work out the exact placement of the al... Mar 16 2011, 12:27 PM kawika I think we agree the forklift was in the impact ar... Mar 16 2011, 02:03 PM dMz QUOTE (kawika @ Mar 16 2011, 12:03 PM) Ed... Mar 16 2011, 03:45 PM onesliceshort And compare that to the immediate inferno allegedl... Mar 16 2011, 04:59 PM kawika QUOTE I disagree Kawika.
I believe it was in that ... Mar 16 2011, 07:40 PM onesliceshort QUOTE (Kawika)Clarification, please. In that origi... Mar 16 2011, 11:02 PM onesliceshort QUOTE (Islandpilot)http://i.imgur.com/CZ3hx.jpg
H... Mar 16 2011, 11:20 PM IslandPilot QUOTE (onesliceshort @ Mar 16 2011, 10:20... Mar 17 2011, 12:57 AM IslandPilot OSS: More pics of Forklift, on its side, after col... Mar 16 2011, 11:45 PM IslandPilot OSS said:
QUOTE Oh, I know. The forklift flew in t... Mar 17 2011, 12:15 AM dMz Moved & merged 5 generator-specific posts to t... Mar 17 2011, 02:40 AM onesliceshort QUOTE (IslandPilot)BTW: What high pressure hoses??... Mar 17 2011, 05:32 PM kawika QUOTE (onesliceshort @ Mar 15 2011, 07:32... Mar 17 2011, 05:46 PM onesliceshort QUOTE (kawika @ Mar 17 2011, 10:46 PM) Ex... Mar 17 2011, 06:28 PM kawika QUOTE (onesliceshort @ Mar 15 2011, 08:28... Mar 17 2011, 07:34 PM onesliceshort IslandPilot, my problem with the "wing impact... Mar 17 2011, 06:17 PM IslandPilot Mr. Forklift truck is lying down after after his h... Mar 17 2011, 07:45 PM 23investigator QUOTE (IslandPilot @ Mar 18 2011, 09:15 A... Mar 17 2011, 10:06 PM kawika LETS LOOK AT THE WINDOW BLINDS
We see a lot of wh... Mar 17 2011, 09:50 PM 23investigator QUOTE (kawika @ Mar 18 2011, 11:20 AM) LE... Mar 17 2011, 10:26 PM IslandPilot Back to our friend Mr. forklift:
Here he lies aft... Mar 18 2011, 02:17 PM IslandPilot OSS: Your dimentional anylsis and conclusions in ... Mar 18 2011, 03:37 PM IslandPilot I have many "problems" with this next pi... Mar 18 2011, 06:20 PM onesliceshort Here's the money shot. I think this is the act... Mar 18 2011, 06:53 PM onesliceshort QUOTE (onesliceshort)I think this is the actual fo... Mar 19 2011, 05:07 PM kawika FORKLIFT location on a plan of the Pentagon showin... Mar 19 2011, 07:19 PM paranoia i uploaded this pic around 2007-08, but wasnt able... Mar 19 2011, 11:58 PM Aldo Marquis CIT RE: Pentagon Lawn Images Mar 20 2011, 02:06 AM 23investigator QUOTE (Aldo Marquis CIT @ Mar 20 2011, 03... Mar 20 2011, 04:10 AM onesliceshort QUOTE (Aldo Marquis CIT @ Mar 20 2011, 07... Mar 20 2011, 02:13 PM onesliceshort QUOTE Psst- is there some fucking REASON that ever... Mar 20 2011, 10:14 AM onesliceshort QUOTE (paranoia)i uploaded this pic around 2007-08... Mar 20 2011, 01:42 PM
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