Pentagon Lawn Images, Chronological order |
Pentagon Lawn Images, Chronological order |
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 Mar 14 2011, 01:07 PM
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What are those "piling posts" for d? I'd never noticed them before.
QUOTE it looks like the common 'lowered mast heights' for the smaller forklifts range from 72 to 96 inches, so likely 6-8 feet. That "6-8 feet" measurement keeps cropping up (although I believe that the forklift was on a slightly lower elevation than the lawn). How could a 757 squeeeeze its way into the first floor "in a left tilt", cause the alleged damage to the right (trailer) and still clear an array of obstacles to the left at least 2 meters tall (not to mention the cars) and fully "penetrate" without buckling or divergence? (IMG:http://pilotsfor911truth.org/forum/style_emoticons/default/bs_flag.gif) |
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Mar 14 2011, 01:23 PM
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QUOTE (onesliceshort @ Mar 14 2011, 11:07 AM)  What are those "piling posts" for d? I'd never noticed them before. I'd say to protect the fire hydrant from wayward helicopter rotors (since there was a helipad right there). It's fairly common practice to place steel pipes around hydrants (and other things) for protection, then fill and mount the pipe(s) in several feet of concrete. I see this frequently in parking lots (car parks), loading docks, and around ATM machines at bank drive-throughs, for example. This is also done to restrict vehicle travel off of pedestrian-/bicycle-only areas in the US (although some 'off road' motorcycles would fit over & between many concrete/steel barriers the way they are located). EDIT2: "Bollard" is the old British/nautical term for these concrete posts that is sometimes used. EDIT: Wasn't it 'convenient' that fire hydrant was located exactly where Rumsfeld & Co. needed "AA77" to "crash" though? (IMG:http://pilotsfor911truth.org/forum/style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif) |
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Mar 14 2011, 11:39 PM
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QUOTE (dMz @ Mar 14 2011, 06:23 PM) I'd say to protect the fire hydrant from wayward helicopter rotors (since there was a helipad right there). It's fairly common practice to place steel pipes around hydrants (and other things) for protection, then fill and mount the pipe(s) in several feet of concrete. I see this frequently in parking lots (car parks), loading docks, and around ATM machines at bank drive-throughs, for example. This is also done to restrict vehicle travel off of pedestrian-/bicycle-only areas in the US (although some 'off road' motorcycles would fit over & between many concrete/steel barriers the way they are located). Thanks d. QUOTE EDIT: Wasn't it 'convenient' that fire hydrant was located exactly where Rumsfeld & Co. needed "AA77" to "crash" though? (IMG:http://pilotsfor911truth.org/forum/style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif) And that there was a foam truck right there on the lawn and that there was a "fire" at Reagan Airport carpark.. I'd always wondered if the facade was meant to immediately collapse or was meant to stand the way it did "for show". I know there's been a lot said about firefighters doing next to nothing to extinguish the fire (the entire scene was weird for me personally) but to allow the cars and propane tanks burn? Firefighters usually put safety first yet allowed these possible explosions to be a risk and beside the source of the water! The propane tanks actually did explode according to a DPS officer there. http://www.defense.gov/news/NewsArticle.aspx?ID=708 QUOTE When the fire department arrived, Rojas explained to them that he had been a fireman and asked if they wanted him to suit up. “I think they knew the building was getting ready to collapse, so they told us to get everybody back,” he said A renovation project had recently been completed near the crash site, and numerous propane cylinders used for the project were still sitting in a fenced-in area, he said. When flames reached the tanks they began to explode. “These tanks were just shooting off up in the air. Poof! They were landing all over the place,” he said I'll throw these two sourced unexplained (to date) quotes for good measure (from Creed and Newman's book "Firefight at the Pentagon"(?)) QUOTE Arlington firefighter Bob Gray is introduced by his colleague Bobby Beer to a man wearing a hard hat. Beer introduces the man only as "Johnny," and adds, "He's our go-between with PenRen [the Pentagon Renovation Program], and he knows some of the military guys too." Although "Johnny" is not wearing any identifying badge or ID, he seems knowledgeable, appears "taut and serious, with a purposeful military stance," and even introduces Gray and Beer to a couple of friends of his who say they work for Special Forces. Johnny says if Gray and Beer need anything from the military, he can help. As a security perimeter has now been set up around the crash site, Gray assumes Johnny must be there officially. [Creed and Newman, 2008, pp. 367-368] Sept 14 Johnny's disappearance appears to follow an error he had made after firefighters discovered two bodies inside the Pentagon's E Ring. Johnny mistakenly called the truck used to remove bodies to the temporary morgue prematurely, before FBI agents had the chance to photograph and document the remains. Gray and Beer start to wonder if Johnny in fact had no official standing, and was an impostor] and.. QUOTE Chad Stamps is a firefighter with Rescue 104 of the Arlington County Fire Department. [National Fire and Rescue, 5/2002] Along with his crew, he has been fighting fires on the second floor of the Pentagon's outer E Ring. With fires burning around him, he is astonished to see another crew walk past, carrying two packs of hose line, apparently on its way to fight fires elsewhere in the Pentagon. Describing this incident, authors Patrick Creed and Rick Newman will point out: "Firefighters are trained never to go through a fire without putting it out, since it might seal off your exit. You might as well walk into a burning room and lock the door behind you. Yet there they went." Seeing the crew passing by, Stamps thinks, "This is totally disjointed." [Creed and Newman, 2008, pp. 137] The odd behavior of this crew is perhaps notable because there is at least one reported incident of fake firefighters being caught at the Pentagon following the attack there: On September 12, three people will be arrested who are not firefighters, yet who are dressed in firefighting gear (see September 12, 2001). [Goldberg et al., 2007, pp. 170]] (IMG:http://pilotsfor911truth.org/forum/style_emoticons/default/ph34r.gif) |
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Mar 15 2011, 03:15 PM
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QUOTE (onesliceshort @ Mar 14 2011, 09:39 PM) I'll throw these two sourced unexplained (to date) quotes for good measure (from Creed and Newman's book "Firefight at the Pentagon"(?)) Just to clarify- that is the same Firefight written by US Army Major Patrick Creed of the US Special Operations Command then? http://pilotsfor911truth.org/forum/index.p...&p=10748069 http://pilotsfor911truth.org/forum/index.p...&p=10747614 http://pilotsfor911truth.org/forum/index.p...&p=10747783 Why does that make me think of this: Revealed: Air Force Ordered Software To Manage Army Of Fake Virtual People http://pilotsfor911truth.org/forum/index.php?showtopic=21115 and these? Military Report: Secretly 'recruit Or Hire Bloggers' http://pilotsfor911truth.org/forum/index.php?showtopic=11687 Covert Operations And The Repression Of Political Dissent http://pilotsfor911truth.org/forum/index.php?showtopic=11529 EDIT: and this: Another Runaway General: Army Deploys Psy-ops On U.S. Senators, Rolling Stone - 2/23/11 http://pilotsfor911truth.org/forum/index.php?showtopic=21129 and this? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Psychological...nited_States%29 QUOTE The United States Army Special Forces, also known as the Green Berets because of their distinctive service headgear, are a special operations force of the United States Army tasked with six primary missions: unconventional warfare, foreign internal defense, special reconnaissance, direct action, hostage rescue, and counter-terrorism. The first two emphasize language, cultural, and training skills in working with foreign troops. Other duties include combat search and rescue (CSAR), security assistance, peacekeeping, humanitarian assistance, humanitarian demining, counter-proliferation, psychological operations, manhunts, and counter-drug operations; other components of the United States Special Operations Command or other U.S. government activities may also specialize in these secondary areas.[2] Many of their operational techniques are classified, but some nonfiction works[3] and doctrinal manuals are available.[4][5][6] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special_Force..._States_Army%29 |
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onesliceshort Pentagon Lawn Images Mar 6 2011, 05:37 PM
onesliceshort Edit - images taken from the Imgur site around 12/... Mar 6 2011, 11:18 PM onesliceshort QUOTE NOTE: Crosscheck with:
http://www.dodmedia.... Mar 6 2011, 11:53 PM 23investigator QUOTE (onesliceshort @ Mar 7 2011, 08:07 ... Mar 7 2011, 01:17 AM Obwon QUOTE (onesliceshort @ Mar 6 2011, 04:37 ... Mar 7 2011, 08:13 AM
23investigator QUOTE (Obwon @ Mar 7 2011, 09:43 PM) This... Mar 7 2011, 08:53 AM Obwon QUOTE (23investigator @ Mar 7 2011, 07:53... Mar 7 2011, 12:06 PM 23investigator QUOTE (Obwon @ Mar 8 2011, 02:36 AM) Yes,... Mar 7 2011, 05:48 PM onesliceshort Thanks guys.
Robert, I respect your opinion but I... Mar 7 2011, 11:43 AM Obwon QUOTE (onesliceshort @ Mar 7 2011, 10:43 ... Mar 7 2011, 12:22 PM bobcat46 In all of these pictures, I don't see any piec... Mar 7 2011, 12:20 PM Obwon QUOTE (bobcat46 @ Mar 7 2011, 11:20 AM) I... Mar 7 2011, 12:33 PM onesliceshort QUOTE (bobcat46 @ Mar 7 2011, 05:20 PM) I... Mar 7 2011, 03:52 PM 23investigator QUOTE (onesliceshort @ Mar 8 2011, 06:22 ... Mar 7 2011, 05:54 PM onesliceshort No probs Robert.
I remembered seeing a thread by ... Mar 7 2011, 11:28 PM Obwon QUOTE (onesliceshort @ Mar 7 2011, 10:28 ... Mar 8 2011, 08:24 AM Obwon QUOTE (onesliceshort @ Mar 7 2011, 10:28 ... Mar 8 2011, 08:42 AM onesliceshort The "nomadic debris", post collapse... ... Mar 8 2011, 05:52 PM SwingDangler QUOTE (onesliceshort @ Mar 6 2011, 08:52 ... Mar 15 2011, 09:26 PM KP50 G'day OSS,
That is something that has always ... Mar 8 2011, 06:28 PM onesliceshort QUOTE (KP50 @ Mar 8 2011, 11:28 PM) G... Mar 8 2011, 11:06 PM KP50 QUOTE (onesliceshort @ Mar 9 2011, 04:06 ... Mar 9 2011, 02:23 AM signalfire Has anyone identified this:
http://i277.photobuc... Mar 9 2011, 03:46 AM dMole QUOTE (signalfire @ Mar 9 2011, 12:46 AM)... Mar 9 2011, 07:28 AM Obwon QUOTE (onesliceshort @ Mar 8 2011, 10:06 ... Mar 9 2011, 09:16 AM signalfire Oh, and just as an addendum, I've been scourin... Mar 9 2011, 04:07 AM onesliceshort QUOTE (dMole)http://pilotsfor911truth.org/forum/in... Mar 9 2011, 11:37 AM onesliceshort Now I know this whatever it is, doesn't appear... Mar 9 2011, 12:25 PM signalfire @signalfire...
Where did you think you saw a body... Mar 9 2011, 03:24 PM onesliceshort Further confirmation that the "mystery plane ... Mar 11 2011, 10:00 AM kawika THE CONSTRUCTION FENCE IS BLOWN AWAY FROM THE WALL... Mar 12 2011, 11:20 AM kawika QUOTE (kawika @ Mar 10 2011, 02:20 PM) TH... Mar 12 2011, 11:33 AM 23investigator QUOTE (kawika @ Mar 13 2011, 02:03 AM) TH... Mar 12 2011, 05:31 PM onesliceshort QUOTE (kawika @ Mar 12 2011, 04:33 PM) TH... Mar 12 2011, 06:41 PM dMz QUOTE (kawika @ Mar 12 2011, 09:20 AM) TH... Mar 13 2011, 07:22 PM kawika Anybody know the name of the photographer in white... Mar 12 2011, 06:59 PM onesliceshort QUOTE (kawika @ Mar 12 2011, 11:59 PM) An... Mar 12 2011, 07:14 PM IslandPilot QUOTE (kawika @ Mar 12 2011, 05:59 PM) An... Mar 16 2011, 06:38 PM onesliceshort They say images speak louder than words...
... Mar 12 2011, 07:06 PM onesliceshort QUOTE They say images speak louder than words...
... Mar 12 2011, 09:24 PM onesliceshort Propane gas container from "gurney" imag... Mar 12 2011, 10:04 PM kawika Oneslice, could we get you to put red boxes around... Mar 13 2011, 12:45 AM onesliceshort QUOTE (kawika @ Mar 13 2011, 05:45 AM) On... Mar 13 2011, 09:48 AM dMz QUOTE (onesliceshort @ Mar 13 2011, 06:48... Mar 13 2011, 02:22 PM dMz QUOTE (dMz @ Mar 13 2011, 11:22 AM) So to... Mar 13 2011, 02:52 PM kawika QUOTE (dMz @ Mar 11 2011, 04:52 PM) Now l... Mar 13 2011, 03:20 PM onesliceshort QUOTE (dMz @ Mar 13 2011, 07:52 PM) Is th... Mar 13 2011, 09:08 PM dMz Psst- is there some fucking REASON that everyone k... Mar 20 2011, 07:09 AM dMz QUOTE (dMz @ Mar 20 2011, 05:09 AM) Psst-... Mar 20 2011, 08:24 AM kawika An image of the forktruck, standing up, and traile... Mar 13 2011, 02:20 PM dMz QUOTE (kawika @ Mar 13 2011, 12:20 PM) An... Mar 14 2011, 01:14 PM kawika Here is a swell collection of HI-RES photos.
ht... Mar 13 2011, 04:11 PM kawika Pretty good aerial photos of trailers from about 8... Mar 13 2011, 05:17 PM BarryWilliamsmb QUOTE (kawika @ Mar 11 2011, 07:17 PM) Pr... Mar 14 2011, 08:42 PM onesliceshort Ah! Nice catch (again) Kawika. There must be m... Mar 13 2011, 09:38 PM onesliceshort QUOTE (OSS)Ah! Nice catch (again) Kawika. Ther... Mar 13 2011, 10:54 PM dMz QUOTE (onesliceshort @ Mar 13 2011, 08:54... Mar 14 2011, 12:36 PM onesliceshort Now for the spools and trailer...
EDIT: The bel... Mar 14 2011, 11:59 PM IslandPilot QUOTE (onesliceshort @ Mar 14 2011, 10:59... Mar 16 2011, 10:00 PM dMz QUOTE (IslandPilot @ Mar 16 2011, 08:00 P... Mar 19 2011, 06:26 PM onesliceshort I had always believed this guy Creed was an office... Mar 15 2011, 05:58 PM SwingDangler Sir, if you could do the time line events using th... Mar 15 2011, 08:29 PM onesliceshort QUOTE (SwingDangler @ Mar 16 2011, 01:29 ... Mar 15 2011, 11:06 PM onesliceshort Shots of facade, generator trailer and spools in c... Mar 15 2011, 11:58 PM onesliceshort Can anybody work out the exact placement of the al... Mar 16 2011, 12:27 PM kawika I think we agree the forklift was in the impact ar... Mar 16 2011, 02:03 PM dMz QUOTE (kawika @ Mar 16 2011, 12:03 PM) Ed... Mar 16 2011, 03:45 PM onesliceshort And compare that to the immediate inferno allegedl... Mar 16 2011, 04:59 PM kawika QUOTE I disagree Kawika.
I believe it was in that ... Mar 16 2011, 07:40 PM onesliceshort QUOTE (Kawika)Clarification, please. In that origi... Mar 16 2011, 11:02 PM onesliceshort QUOTE (Islandpilot)http://i.imgur.com/CZ3hx.jpg
H... Mar 16 2011, 11:20 PM IslandPilot QUOTE (onesliceshort @ Mar 16 2011, 10:20... Mar 17 2011, 12:57 AM IslandPilot OSS: More pics of Forklift, on its side, after col... Mar 16 2011, 11:45 PM IslandPilot OSS said:
QUOTE Oh, I know. The forklift flew in t... Mar 17 2011, 12:15 AM dMz Moved & merged 5 generator-specific posts to t... Mar 17 2011, 02:40 AM onesliceshort QUOTE (IslandPilot)BTW: What high pressure hoses??... Mar 17 2011, 05:32 PM kawika QUOTE (onesliceshort @ Mar 15 2011, 07:32... Mar 17 2011, 05:46 PM onesliceshort QUOTE (kawika @ Mar 17 2011, 10:46 PM) Ex... Mar 17 2011, 06:28 PM kawika QUOTE (onesliceshort @ Mar 15 2011, 08:28... Mar 17 2011, 07:34 PM onesliceshort IslandPilot, my problem with the "wing impact... Mar 17 2011, 06:17 PM IslandPilot Mr. Forklift truck is lying down after after his h... Mar 17 2011, 07:45 PM 23investigator QUOTE (IslandPilot @ Mar 18 2011, 09:15 A... Mar 17 2011, 10:06 PM kawika LETS LOOK AT THE WINDOW BLINDS
We see a lot of wh... Mar 17 2011, 09:50 PM 23investigator QUOTE (kawika @ Mar 18 2011, 11:20 AM) LE... Mar 17 2011, 10:26 PM IslandPilot Back to our friend Mr. forklift:
Here he lies aft... Mar 18 2011, 02:17 PM IslandPilot OSS: Your dimentional anylsis and conclusions in ... Mar 18 2011, 03:37 PM IslandPilot I have many "problems" with this next pi... Mar 18 2011, 06:20 PM onesliceshort Here's the money shot. I think this is the act... Mar 18 2011, 06:53 PM onesliceshort QUOTE (onesliceshort)I think this is the actual fo... Mar 19 2011, 05:07 PM kawika FORKLIFT location on a plan of the Pentagon showin... Mar 19 2011, 07:19 PM paranoia i uploaded this pic around 2007-08, but wasnt able... Mar 19 2011, 11:58 PM Aldo Marquis CIT RE: Pentagon Lawn Images Mar 20 2011, 02:06 AM 23investigator QUOTE (Aldo Marquis CIT @ Mar 20 2011, 03... Mar 20 2011, 04:10 AM onesliceshort QUOTE (Aldo Marquis CIT @ Mar 20 2011, 07... Mar 20 2011, 02:13 PM onesliceshort QUOTE Psst- is there some fucking REASON that ever... Mar 20 2011, 10:14 AM onesliceshort QUOTE (paranoia)i uploaded this pic around 2007-08... Mar 20 2011, 01:42 PM
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