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Mar 15 2011, 11:22 AM
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Mar 19 2011, 01:31 PM
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No offense.. but your last sentence.. False arguments..
You state that Nuclear is the cheapest.. Actually its the most expensive.. One of the most safe.. Unless you live within 50 mles of a plant. Enviromentally Friendly.. Building a Nuke plant is not green. No Insurance companys will Insure Nukes, Wall Street wont touch investing in Nukes., and if they are so safe, clean, cheap why does the Govt & congress guarentee the loans. I dont doubt that todays Nukes are more safe. I hope we can use Nuclear, but please dont complain when you get the Bill. All the aging Nuke plants on earth. especially built on faut lines.. Who is going to pay to clean them up..?? Not to mention that a Nuke plant is the perfect Terror target. One more reason why I think 911 was a inside job. Real terrorists with 4 jumbo jets would of attacked NYC`s Indian Point Nuke,.. |
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Mar 19 2011, 04:38 PM
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Group: Valued Member Posts: 1,000 Joined: 7-November 07 From: Prague or France Member No.: 2,452 |
No offense.. but your last sentence.. False arguments.. You state that Nuclear is the cheapest.. Actually its the most expensive.. No offense, but false (IMG:http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_VyTCyizqrHs/TP59FjqZlDI/AAAAAAAAJvg/VhX0TTl4Pqs/s1600/energycosts.jpg) (based on todays costs, not envisioning 4th generation, which will be even considerably cheaper and more efficient and I bet no so called "Renewables" will be able to compete it if not supported by large subsidies - taxpayers money) QUOTE One of the most safe.. Unless you live within 50 mles of a plant. false see here QUOTE No Insurance companys will Insure Nukes, Wall Street wont touch investing in Nukes., and if they are so safe, clean, cheap why does the Govt & congress guarentee the loans. Ask them, I'm not an insurance agent, nor US govt. speaker. QUOTE I dont doubt that todays Nukes are more safe. I hope we can use Nuclear, but please dont complain when you get the Bill. a bill for what? QUOTE All the aging Nuke plants on earth. especially built on faut lines.. Especially in US - if the activists payed by fossil lobby and their gullible followers would not politically block building of new plants, the old would be already decommissioned. QUOTE Who is going to pay to clean them up..?? The obligatory reserve funds made for decommision and fuel handling - only nuclear energy producers are obligated to pay this externalities. Better if you ask who will pay the recyclation or liquidation of the forests of windmills, solar plants which if we look at the technology used are all surely nonfunctional after 20 years etc.... Taxpayers! QUOTE Not to mention that a Nuke plant is the perfect Terror target. Your argument intimately reminds me the kind of G. Bush rhetoric after 9/11... (IMG:http://pilotsfor911truth.org/forum/style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif) No it isn't, because it hasn't a cappacity to kill many people - whenever the reactor scrams (in matter of seconds in case of any emergency) the probability of fatalities is very low (military knows it and largely uses nuclear power at their ships even the're intended for war operations, where large callibers and rockets often could strike) - as we see also in Fukushima, which was hit by something, a real terrorist (not a US military...) is not able to put together - a 9M quake and 10+ m tsunami. Yet there still are no large fatalities in Fukushima the terrorists want to inflict and the dangerous contamination I would bet (in fact I've calculated it for myself from the multiple sets of available measurements -in, around and dozens of kilometers from there) will not last more than several weeks at an area larger than ~3km around the plant, because it is by decay trend signature mostly short half-life isotops, with no dangerous levels of Cs-137 and Sr-90, not speaking about a Plutonium all the activistic pundits now look like crazing about, because no real catastrophe as in Chernobyl unfolded -as they apparently, quiverly, were fervently "predicting" and maybe even wishing - and I found their rants not just pathetic, but being a real hyenism, because they in fact don't much care about japanese people who were affected, just their petty agendas. QUOTE One more reason why I think 911 was a inside job. I don't think, I now know it and I know who did it..but at the moment it is against the policies of P4T to write it here and directly blame for 9/11. QUOTE Real terrorists with 4 jumbo jets would of attacked NYC`s Indian Point Nuke,.. A nonsense. Why? It would not have a cappacity to kill 3000 people in 2 hours, not being a spectacular attack on nation's symbols (nuke plants are largely unpopular in US) for the media campaign -even if you would hit a reactor building with multiple jetliners, the primary containment is projected to withstand it. ...As were the Twin towers... |
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bill Nuclear Disaster Unfolding In Fukushima Mar 15 2011, 11:22 AM
bill from George Ure at Urbansurvival today
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bill http://www.nytimes.com/2011/03/16/world/as...amp;_... Mar 15 2011, 11:42 AM
lunk http://earthquake.usgs.gov/earthquakes/recenteqsan... Mar 15 2011, 12:14 PM
bill eta link
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article... Mar 15 2011, 12:15 PM
Johnny Angel Beyond Nuclear.Org.
The danger of the Nuclear was... Mar 15 2011, 01:38 PM
DoYouEverWonder QUOTE
Heavy fallout from Japan nuclear scandal
... Mar 15 2011, 02:49 PM
tumetuestumefaisdubien When I read the measurements then it looks to me b... Mar 15 2011, 03:21 PM
Omega892R09 QUOTE (tumetuestumefaisdubien @ Mar 13 2011, ... Mar 16 2011, 07:33 AM
lunk QUOTE (Omega892R09 @ Mar 16 2011, 03:33 A... Mar 16 2011, 10:49 AM
GroundPounder QUOTE (lunk @ Mar 14 2011, 01:49 PM) The ... Mar 16 2011, 12:39 PM
Omega892R09 I don't know if any have seen these yet but wo... Mar 16 2011, 06:40 PM
lunk QUOTE (Omega892R09 @ Mar 16 2011, 02:40 P... Mar 16 2011, 10:53 PM
Omega892R09 QUOTE (lunk @ Mar 15 2011, 12:53 AM) Hmmm... Mar 17 2011, 08:33 AM
albertchampion what can you tell me about radiation? how is it me... Mar 17 2011, 02:31 AM
Omega892R09 QUOTE (albertchampion @ Mar 15 2011, 04:3... Mar 17 2011, 01:58 PM

tumetuestumefaisdubien QUOTE (Omega892R09 @ Mar 17 2011, 06:58 A... Mar 17 2011, 05:37 PM

Omega892R09 QUOTE (tumetuestumefaisdubien @ Mar 15 2011, ... Mar 18 2011, 08:06 AM
Ricochet QUOTE (albertchampion @ Mar 16 2011, 10:3... Mar 17 2011, 03:34 PM
tumetuestumefaisdubien New video from Fukushima taken from TEPCO copter:
... Mar 17 2011, 12:29 PM
tumetuestumefaisdubien according to last measurements -if we would believ... Mar 18 2011, 12:20 AM
Omega892R09 And then we have this cretin creature poking fun a... Mar 18 2011, 08:19 AM
bobcat46 QUOTE (Omega892R09 @ Mar 16 2011, 10:19 A... Mar 18 2011, 09:50 AM
GroundPounder ok what am i missing here. the chart from:
http:/... Mar 18 2011, 09:06 AM
Omega892R09 QUOTE (GroundPounder @ Mar 16 2011, 11:06... Mar 18 2011, 09:36 AM
tumetuestumefaisdubien QUOTE (GroundPounder @ Mar 18 2011, 02:06... Mar 18 2011, 04:33 PM
bill US Military evacuating Japan
U.S. Navy Capt. Er... Mar 18 2011, 10:27 AM
IslandPilot tume:
Thanks for this useful chart.
It helps to p... Mar 18 2011, 10:39 AM
Ricochet http://www.radiationnetwork.com/
Reactor status
h... Mar 18 2011, 02:07 PM
bill Obama said yesterday :“The Centers for Disease Co... Mar 18 2011, 03:47 PM
bill "So if the TEPCO measurements are real"
... Mar 18 2011, 04:13 PM
bill I have been monitoring CNN for the last hour
no ... Mar 18 2011, 04:30 PM
GroundPounder QUOTE (tumetuestumefaisdubien @ Mar 16 2011, ... Mar 18 2011, 06:11 PM
tumetuestumefaisdubien QUOTE (GroundPounder @ Mar 18 2011, 11:11... Mar 18 2011, 11:48 PM
Ricochet The (US) EPA radiation map website, RadNet has bee... Mar 18 2011, 06:36 PM
bill https://cdxnode64.epa.gov/radnet-public/showMap.do... Mar 18 2011, 09:45 PM
bill Still patient here
but no data
they must be rea... Mar 18 2011, 10:54 PM
dMz QUOTE (bill @ Mar 18 2011, 08:54 PM) Stil... Mar 19 2011, 06:34 PM
Ricochet Chernobyl did not have PLUTONIUM for fuel. Mar 19 2011, 02:18 AM
tumetuestumefaisdubien QUOTE (Ricochet @ Mar 18 2011, 07:18 PM) ... Mar 19 2011, 10:58 AM
GroundPounder i would agree tume, that under normal conditions c... Mar 19 2011, 06:54 AM
lunk We got the data from Chernobyl, after it was final... Mar 19 2011, 07:12 AM
GroundPounder just listening to alan watt from last night and he... Mar 19 2011, 08:41 AM
bill Still waiting for the EPA site for data this morni... Mar 19 2011, 09:57 AM
Ricochet Update March 19 22:00H
http://www.jaif.or.jp/engli... Mar 19 2011, 01:46 PM
Ricochet Natural News has this to say on MOX fuel.
QUOTE (... Mar 19 2011, 05:02 PM
tumetuestumefaisdubien QUOTE (Ricochet @ Mar 19 2011, 10:02 AM) ... Mar 19 2011, 06:09 PM
lunk radiation sickness
n.
Illness induced by exposure... Mar 19 2011, 06:10 PM
tumetuestumefaisdubien QUOTE (lunk @ Mar 19 2011, 11:10 AM) This... Mar 19 2011, 06:24 PM
lunk QUOTE (tumetuestumefaisdubien @ Mar 19 2011, ... Mar 19 2011, 06:50 PM
GroundPounder QUOTE (lunk @ Mar 17 2011, 09:50 PM) is i... Mar 19 2011, 08:03 PM
lunk QUOTE (GroundPounder @ Mar 19 2011, 04:03... Mar 19 2011, 08:17 PM
Johnny Angel Tume.. I am not going to argue your facts and cha... Mar 19 2011, 10:12 PM
tumetuestumefaisdubien QUOTE (Johnny Angel @ Mar 19 2011, 03:12 ... Mar 20 2011, 12:15 PM
BarryWilliamsmb In my naivety of the Japanese culture I get the fe... Mar 19 2011, 10:37 PM
BarryWilliamsmb I've been following this event from the beginn... Mar 20 2011, 12:07 AM
GroundPounder QUOTE (BarryWilliamsmb @ Mar 18 2011, 01... Mar 20 2011, 07:21 AM
lunk How radioactive?
there seems to be only 3 levels ... Mar 20 2011, 07:29 AM
tumetuestumefaisdubien QUOTE (lunk @ Mar 20 2011, 12:29 AM) How ... Mar 20 2011, 01:16 PM
maturin42 Just imagine if, instead of nuclear power, the pow... Mar 20 2011, 01:49 PM
tumetuestumefaisdubien QUOTE (maturin42 @ Mar 20 2011, 06:49 AM)... Mar 20 2011, 02:46 PM

p.w.rapp QUOTE (tumetuestumefaisdubien @ Mar 20 2011, ... Mar 21 2011, 06:36 AM

tumetuestumefaisdubien QUOTE (p.w.rapp @ Mar 20 2011, 11:36 PM) ... Mar 21 2011, 10:33 AM
DoYouEverWonder QUOTE (maturin42 @ Mar 20 2011, 12:49 PM)... Mar 20 2011, 03:26 PM
tumetuestumefaisdubien QUOTE (DoYouEverWonder @ Mar 20 2011, 08... Mar 20 2011, 03:38 PM
bill Now, this is what I call safe
Notice how safe rea... Mar 20 2011, 02:09 PM
GroundPounder QUOTE (maturin42 @ Mar 18 2011, 04:49 PM)... Mar 20 2011, 02:12 PM
bill (Emphasis added is mine)
more well engineered saf... Mar 20 2011, 02:19 PM
tumetuestumefaisdubien QUOTE (bill @ Mar 20 2011, 07:19 AM)
fun... Mar 20 2011, 03:10 PM
bill How about Germany with nearly 30 Giga watts of sol... Mar 20 2011, 03:05 PM
tumetuestumefaisdubien QUOTE (bill @ Mar 20 2011, 08:05 AM) How ... Mar 20 2011, 03:34 PM
bill Clearly the diagram is meant for illustration only... Mar 20 2011, 03:35 PM
tumetuestumefaisdubien QUOTE (bill @ Mar 20 2011, 08:35 AM) Clea... Mar 20 2011, 03:53 PM
GroundPounder the problems with all of this banter is that the p... Mar 20 2011, 03:39 PM
tumetuestumefaisdubien QUOTE (GroundPounder @ Mar 20 2011, 08:39... Mar 20 2011, 03:59 PM
bill "yeah, especially at night I expect it will s... Mar 20 2011, 03:39 PM
bill tume
you seem to be full of 'it' too Mar 20 2011, 03:58 PM
tumetuestumefaisdubien QUOTE (bill @ Mar 20 2011, 08:58 AM) tume... Mar 20 2011, 04:01 PM
GroundPounder what's a few extra cancers among friends? we a... Mar 20 2011, 04:28 PM
tumetuestumefaisdubien Here just a teaser how the "Renewables" are "perfe... Mar 20 2011, 06:52 PM
bill http://www.targetmap.com/viewer.aspx?reportId=4870... Mar 20 2011, 07:20 PM
lunk The timing of this disaster in Japan was a perfect... Mar 21 2011, 08:16 AM
tumetuestumefaisdubien QUOTE (lunk @ Mar 21 2011, 01:16 AM) Was ... Mar 21 2011, 09:41 AM
bill http://www.kirotv.com/news/27248974/detail.html
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GroundPounder greg palast has an interesting article on the nucl... Mar 21 2011, 11:41 AM
tumetuestumefaisdubien QUOTE (GroundPounder @ Mar 21 2011, 04:41... Mar 21 2011, 03:11 PM
bill http://www.kirotv.com/news/27248974/detail.html
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tumetuestumefaisdubien QUOTE (bill @ Mar 21 2011, 04:57 AM) 200,... Mar 21 2011, 06:31 PM
bill http://www.dw-world.de/dw/article/0,,14926992,00.h... Mar 21 2011, 12:27 PM
lunk QUOTE (bill @ Mar 21 2011, 08:27 AM) http... Mar 21 2011, 03:14 PM
GroundPounder tume, you are missing the forest from the trees.
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tumetuestumefaisdubien QUOTE (GroundPounder @ Mar 21 2011, 08:44... Mar 21 2011, 04:20 PM
GroundPounder QUOTE (lunk @ Mar 19 2011, 06:14 PM) Whit... Mar 21 2011, 03:46 PM
tumetuestumefaisdubien QUOTE (GroundPounder @ Mar 21 2011, 08:46... Mar 21 2011, 04:22 PM
GroundPounder QUOTE (tumetuestumefaisdubien @ Mar 19 2011, ... Mar 21 2011, 04:46 PM
tumetuestumefaisdubien QUOTE (GroundPounder @ Mar 21 2011, 09:46... Mar 21 2011, 05:15 PM
GroundPounder QUOTE (tumetuestumefaisdubien @ Mar 19 2011, ... Mar 21 2011, 05:24 PM
tumetuestumefaisdubien QUOTE (GroundPounder @ Mar 21 2011, 10:24... Mar 21 2011, 05:34 PM
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