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Nuclear Disaster Unfolding In Fukushima

bill
post Mar 15 2011, 11:22 AM
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This getting worse every day


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lunk
post Mar 20 2011, 07:29 AM
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How radioactive?
there seems to be only 3 levels of radiation in the news,
high-levels, traceable-levels, and dropping-levels.


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BBC Philharmonic Orchestra instruments were so radioactive following a tour of Japan that they triggered off an airport alarm when they arrived back in Britain.

The cargo was stopped for inspection by radiation protection officers at Manchester airport.

When the earthquake struck the orchestra was on a coach crossing a suspension bridge 200 miles from the stricken Fukushima nuclear power plant.

Radiation contaminated the instruments which were seized on Thursday and have been held for inspection at a secure underground location at the airport.

But the 90 members of the orchestra passed through the airport without incident.

It was initially feared that their instruments were so contaminated they would have to be destroyed. But a Home Office spokesman said last night that the radiation is now believed to be harmless.

The alarm system, called Cyclamen, is used at British airports to detect nuclear ‘dirty bombs’ or materials that terrorists may try to smuggle in.

A source at the airport said it
is ‘rare’ for the alarm to activate there, even though it handles millions of tons of cargo each year.


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post Mar 20 2011, 01:16 PM
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QUOTE (lunk @ Mar 20 2011, 12:29 AM) *
How radioactive?

Maybe you've missed it but I was repeatedly posting the measurements from the Fukushima plant, so in the linked files are the values from around the plant.
Here are measurements from four sites in Japan, which help to put the measurements at the plant into a perspective of wider areas. This measurements clearly show the expected spikes (look at the 7 days graphs), from the quite steep down slopes - which are clearly mostly the result of short half-life isotops (like the infamous I-131) fast decay - I've assessed (it is not trivial task - but if you're really interested how it is done feel free to ask questions) the values would come close to normal in orders of weeks so the cummulative dose for the population will not be harmful or dangerous. The relatively steep slope shows the decay speed signature which to me absolutely clearly rules-out a significant contamination with Sr-90, Cs-137 or Pu-241. And yes, the measurements clearly make possible the baggage and instruments of the musicians could be contaminated to measurable values (by very sensitive airport detectors), but quite certainly the level could not be harmful or even dangerous, because as such is not measured even in the Japan, and will quickly decay to practically unmeasurable values.
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post Mar 20 2011, 01:49 PM
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Just imagine if, instead of nuclear power, the power generation in that area had been by rooftop solar and wind power. The survivors of the tsunami would still be dealing with a disaster, but complicated only by a massive sun and wind-spill. Distributed local generation using the most appropriate and efficient renewable sources should be the first choice. Even when everything goes right, nuclear produces waste products that remain dangerous for hundreds, sometimes thousands of years. Point to any examples you can think of in which any human endeavor, such as protecting and safeguarding a repositary lasts for even hundreds of years.

The sun and wind will be around as long as we are. A large-scale commitment to it will result in increases in efficiency and lowering prices. Continuing the folly of nuclear generation will result in the enrichment of the few and risks borne by many.

In the case of the U. S., the fact that no underwriter has agreed to insure against the risks of developing new nuclear power plants should tell us something. Only with the federal government - meaning the taxpayer - standing behind them, will new nuclear plants go forward. I am willing to take the risk of sun and wind spills - not trusting everything to go right in the entire nuclear life-cycle.
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- bill   Nuclear Disaster Unfolding In Fukushima   Mar 15 2011, 11:22 AM
- - bill   from George Ure at Urbansurvival today http://urb...   Mar 15 2011, 11:31 AM
- - bill   http://www.nytimes.com/2011/03/16/world/as...amp;_...   Mar 15 2011, 11:42 AM
- - lunk   http://earthquake.usgs.gov/earthquakes/recenteqsan...   Mar 15 2011, 12:14 PM
- - bill   eta link http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article...   Mar 15 2011, 12:15 PM
- - Johnny Angel   Beyond Nuclear.Org. The danger of the Nuclear was...   Mar 15 2011, 01:38 PM
- - DoYouEverWonder   QUOTE Heavy fallout from Japan nuclear scandal ...   Mar 15 2011, 02:49 PM
- - tumetuestumefaisdubien   When I read the measurements then it looks to me b...   Mar 15 2011, 03:21 PM
|- - Omega892R09   QUOTE (tumetuestumefaisdubien @ Mar 13 2011, ...   Mar 16 2011, 07:33 AM
|- - lunk   QUOTE (Omega892R09 @ Mar 16 2011, 03:33 A...   Mar 16 2011, 10:49 AM
- - GroundPounder   QUOTE (lunk @ Mar 14 2011, 01:49 PM) The ...   Mar 16 2011, 12:39 PM
- - Omega892R09   I don't know if any have seen these yet but wo...   Mar 16 2011, 06:40 PM
|- - lunk   QUOTE (Omega892R09 @ Mar 16 2011, 02:40 P...   Mar 16 2011, 10:53 PM
|- - Omega892R09   QUOTE (lunk @ Mar 15 2011, 12:53 AM) Hmmm...   Mar 17 2011, 08:33 AM
- - albertchampion   what can you tell me about radiation? how is it me...   Mar 17 2011, 02:31 AM
|- - Omega892R09   QUOTE (albertchampion @ Mar 15 2011, 04:3...   Mar 17 2011, 01:58 PM
||- - tumetuestumefaisdubien   QUOTE (Omega892R09 @ Mar 17 2011, 06:58 A...   Mar 17 2011, 05:37 PM
||- - Omega892R09   QUOTE (tumetuestumefaisdubien @ Mar 15 2011, ...   Mar 18 2011, 08:06 AM
|- - Ricochet   QUOTE (albertchampion @ Mar 16 2011, 10:3...   Mar 17 2011, 03:34 PM
- - tumetuestumefaisdubien   New video from Fukushima taken from TEPCO copter: ...   Mar 17 2011, 12:29 PM
- - tumetuestumefaisdubien   according to last measurements -if we would believ...   Mar 18 2011, 12:20 AM
- - Omega892R09   And then we have this cretin creature poking fun a...   Mar 18 2011, 08:19 AM
|- - bobcat46   QUOTE (Omega892R09 @ Mar 16 2011, 10:19 A...   Mar 18 2011, 09:50 AM
- - GroundPounder   ok what am i missing here. the chart from: http:/...   Mar 18 2011, 09:06 AM
|- - Omega892R09   QUOTE (GroundPounder @ Mar 16 2011, 11:06...   Mar 18 2011, 09:36 AM
|- - tumetuestumefaisdubien   QUOTE (GroundPounder @ Mar 18 2011, 02:06...   Mar 18 2011, 04:33 PM
- - bill   US Military evacuating Japan U.S. Navy Capt. Er...   Mar 18 2011, 10:27 AM
- - IslandPilot   tume: Thanks for this useful chart. It helps to p...   Mar 18 2011, 10:39 AM
- - Ricochet   http://www.radiationnetwork.com/ Reactor status h...   Mar 18 2011, 02:07 PM
- - bill   Obama said yesterday :“The Centers for Disease Co...   Mar 18 2011, 03:47 PM
- - bill   "So if the TEPCO measurements are real" ...   Mar 18 2011, 04:13 PM
- - bill   I have been monitoring CNN for the last hour no ...   Mar 18 2011, 04:30 PM
- - GroundPounder   QUOTE (tumetuestumefaisdubien @ Mar 16 2011, ...   Mar 18 2011, 06:11 PM
|- - tumetuestumefaisdubien   QUOTE (GroundPounder @ Mar 18 2011, 11:11...   Mar 18 2011, 11:48 PM
- - Ricochet   The (US) EPA radiation map website, RadNet has bee...   Mar 18 2011, 06:36 PM
- - bill   https://cdxnode64.epa.gov/radnet-public/showMap.do...   Mar 18 2011, 09:45 PM
- - bill   Still patient here but no data they must be rea...   Mar 18 2011, 10:54 PM
|- - dMz   QUOTE (bill @ Mar 18 2011, 08:54 PM) Stil...   Mar 19 2011, 06:34 PM
- - Ricochet   Chernobyl did not have PLUTONIUM for fuel.   Mar 19 2011, 02:18 AM
|- - tumetuestumefaisdubien   QUOTE (Ricochet @ Mar 18 2011, 07:18 PM) ...   Mar 19 2011, 10:58 AM
- - GroundPounder   i would agree tume, that under normal conditions c...   Mar 19 2011, 06:54 AM
- - lunk   We got the data from Chernobyl, after it was final...   Mar 19 2011, 07:12 AM
- - GroundPounder   just listening to alan watt from last night and he...   Mar 19 2011, 08:41 AM
- - bill   Still waiting for the EPA site for data this morni...   Mar 19 2011, 09:57 AM
- - Johnny Angel   No offense.. but your last sentence.. False argume...   Mar 19 2011, 01:31 PM
|- - tumetuestumefaisdubien   QUOTE (Johnny Angel @ Mar 19 2011, 06:31 ...   Mar 19 2011, 04:38 PM
- - Ricochet   Update March 19 22:00H http://www.jaif.or.jp/engli...   Mar 19 2011, 01:46 PM
- - Ricochet   Natural News has this to say on MOX fuel. QUOTE (...   Mar 19 2011, 05:02 PM
|- - tumetuestumefaisdubien   QUOTE (Ricochet @ Mar 19 2011, 10:02 AM) ...   Mar 19 2011, 06:09 PM
- - lunk   radiation sickness n. Illness induced by exposure...   Mar 19 2011, 06:10 PM
|- - tumetuestumefaisdubien   QUOTE (lunk @ Mar 19 2011, 11:10 AM) This...   Mar 19 2011, 06:24 PM
|- - lunk   QUOTE (tumetuestumefaisdubien @ Mar 19 2011, ...   Mar 19 2011, 06:50 PM
- - GroundPounder   QUOTE (lunk @ Mar 17 2011, 09:50 PM) is i...   Mar 19 2011, 08:03 PM
|- - lunk   QUOTE (GroundPounder @ Mar 19 2011, 04:03...   Mar 19 2011, 08:17 PM
- - Johnny Angel   Tume.. I am not going to argue your facts and cha...   Mar 19 2011, 10:12 PM
|- - tumetuestumefaisdubien   QUOTE (Johnny Angel @ Mar 19 2011, 03:12 ...   Mar 20 2011, 12:15 PM
- - BarryWilliamsmb   In my naivety of the Japanese culture I get the fe...   Mar 19 2011, 10:37 PM
- - BarryWilliamsmb   I've been following this event from the beginn...   Mar 20 2011, 12:07 AM
- - GroundPounder   QUOTE (BarryWilliamsmb @ Mar 18 2011, 01...   Mar 20 2011, 07:21 AM
- - lunk   How radioactive? there seems to be only 3 levels ...   Mar 20 2011, 07:29 AM
|- - tumetuestumefaisdubien   QUOTE (lunk @ Mar 20 2011, 12:29 AM) How ...   Mar 20 2011, 01:16 PM
|- - maturin42   Just imagine if, instead of nuclear power, the pow...   Mar 20 2011, 01:49 PM
|- - tumetuestumefaisdubien   QUOTE (maturin42 @ Mar 20 2011, 06:49 AM)...   Mar 20 2011, 02:46 PM
||- - p.w.rapp   QUOTE (tumetuestumefaisdubien @ Mar 20 2011, ...   Mar 21 2011, 06:36 AM
||- - tumetuestumefaisdubien   QUOTE (p.w.rapp @ Mar 20 2011, 11:36 PM) ...   Mar 21 2011, 10:33 AM
|- - DoYouEverWonder   QUOTE (maturin42 @ Mar 20 2011, 12:49 PM)...   Mar 20 2011, 03:26 PM
|- - tumetuestumefaisdubien   QUOTE (DoYouEverWonder @ Mar 20 2011, 08...   Mar 20 2011, 03:38 PM
- - bill   Now, this is what I call safe Notice how safe rea...   Mar 20 2011, 02:09 PM
- - GroundPounder   QUOTE (maturin42 @ Mar 18 2011, 04:49 PM)...   Mar 20 2011, 02:12 PM
- - bill   (Emphasis added is mine) more well engineered saf...   Mar 20 2011, 02:19 PM
|- - tumetuestumefaisdubien   QUOTE (bill @ Mar 20 2011, 07:19 AM) fun...   Mar 20 2011, 03:10 PM
- - bill   How about Germany with nearly 30 Giga watts of sol...   Mar 20 2011, 03:05 PM
|- - tumetuestumefaisdubien   QUOTE (bill @ Mar 20 2011, 08:05 AM) How ...   Mar 20 2011, 03:34 PM
- - bill   Clearly the diagram is meant for illustration only...   Mar 20 2011, 03:35 PM
|- - tumetuestumefaisdubien   QUOTE (bill @ Mar 20 2011, 08:35 AM) Clea...   Mar 20 2011, 03:53 PM
- - GroundPounder   the problems with all of this banter is that the p...   Mar 20 2011, 03:39 PM
|- - tumetuestumefaisdubien   QUOTE (GroundPounder @ Mar 20 2011, 08:39...   Mar 20 2011, 03:59 PM
- - bill   "yeah, especially at night I expect it will s...   Mar 20 2011, 03:39 PM
- - bill   tume you seem to be full of 'it' too   Mar 20 2011, 03:58 PM
|- - tumetuestumefaisdubien   QUOTE (bill @ Mar 20 2011, 08:58 AM) tume...   Mar 20 2011, 04:01 PM
- - GroundPounder   what's a few extra cancers among friends? we a...   Mar 20 2011, 04:28 PM
- - tumetuestumefaisdubien   Here just a teaser how the "Renewables" are "perfe...   Mar 20 2011, 06:52 PM
- - bill   http://www.targetmap.com/viewer.aspx?reportId=4870...   Mar 20 2011, 07:20 PM
- - lunk   The timing of this disaster in Japan was a perfect...   Mar 21 2011, 08:16 AM
|- - tumetuestumefaisdubien   QUOTE (lunk @ Mar 21 2011, 01:16 AM) Was ...   Mar 21 2011, 09:41 AM
- - bill   http://www.kirotv.com/news/27248974/detail.html ...   Mar 21 2011, 09:05 AM
- - GroundPounder   greg palast has an interesting article on the nucl...   Mar 21 2011, 11:41 AM
|- - tumetuestumefaisdubien   QUOTE (GroundPounder @ Mar 21 2011, 04:41...   Mar 21 2011, 03:11 PM
- - bill   http://www.kirotv.com/news/27248974/detail.html ...   Mar 21 2011, 11:57 AM
|- - tumetuestumefaisdubien   QUOTE (bill @ Mar 21 2011, 04:57 AM) 200,...   Mar 21 2011, 06:31 PM
- - bill   http://www.dw-world.de/dw/article/0,,14926992,00.h...   Mar 21 2011, 12:27 PM
|- - lunk   QUOTE (bill @ Mar 21 2011, 08:27 AM) http...   Mar 21 2011, 03:14 PM
- - GroundPounder   tume, you are missing the forest from the trees. ...   Mar 21 2011, 03:44 PM
|- - tumetuestumefaisdubien   QUOTE (GroundPounder @ Mar 21 2011, 08:44...   Mar 21 2011, 04:20 PM
- - GroundPounder   QUOTE (lunk @ Mar 19 2011, 06:14 PM) Whit...   Mar 21 2011, 03:46 PM
|- - tumetuestumefaisdubien   QUOTE (GroundPounder @ Mar 21 2011, 08:46...   Mar 21 2011, 04:22 PM
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- - tumetuestumefaisdubien   QUOTE (GroundPounder @ Mar 21 2011, 10:24...   Mar 21 2011, 05:34 PM
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