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Nuclear Disaster Unfolding In Fukushima

bill
post Mar 15 2011, 11:22 AM
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This getting worse every day


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bill
post Mar 20 2011, 02:19 PM
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more well engineered safety




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A current focus of concern in Japan now is the pools at the reactors where spent fuel is stored. Some of this spent fuel is still very radioactive since it was only removed from the reactors a few months ago, and it must be covered by water and cooled to keep from overheating. If the spent fuel rods get too hot, they can suffer damage and release significant amounts of radioactive gases into the atmosphere, and could eventually catch fire.

Since several of the reactor buildings that surround these pools have been damaged by explosions, the radioactivity released from the pools in those buildings would get directly into the atmosphere. Similar fuel damage within the reactor cores would be surrounded by the reactor’s primary containment so that a much smaller fraction would get out, unless there was a significant breech of the containment.

Water needs to be added to the spent fuel pools at Fukushima since heating by the spent fuel causes the water to evaporate and boil off.

In addition, reports from Japan say that the spent fuel pool at reactor Unit 4 is leaking, which further increases the need for additional water.

A possible source of the leak in the Unit 4 pool may be the seals around the doors (or “gates”) on one side of the spent fuel pool. These gates are shown in the diagram below. They are located between the pool and the area above the reactor vessel. They are concrete with metal liners, and are roughly 20’x 3’.

When fuel is moved between the pool and vessel, this whole region is filled with water, the gates are opened, and the fuel can be moved to or from the reactor core while remaining under water. The water not only keeps the fuel rods cool but acts as a radiation shield.



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Boiling Water Reactor (BWR) Spent Fuel Cooling System

When the gates are closed, they are made watertight by an inflatable seal, similar to a bicycle innertube, that runs around the sides and bottom of the gates. Electric air pumps are used to inflate these seals and keep them inflated as air leaks out of them over time.

These pumps are powered by electricity from the power grid, and not by backup diesel power or batteries. So once the power grid in Japan was knocked out, these seals could not be inflated if they lost air over time. If these seals lost air they could lead to significant water loss from the pool, even if there were no direct physical damage to the pool from the earthquake or tsunami. This may be what happened at pool 4, and could affect the other pools as well.

We saw an example of this in the US at the Hatch nuclear plant in Georgia in December 1986. This reactor is very similar to the reactors at Fukushima. In the Hatch case, the line supplying air to the inflatable seal was accidentally closed, the seal lost pressure and created a leak, and by the time the problem was identified several hours later some 141,000 gallons of water leaked from the pool—about half the water in the pool Fortunately, the source of the problem was discovered and fixed before the water level uncovered the fuel.

An NRC document on the leak gave this description of the event:

A valve in the single air supply line to the seals was mistakenly closed. Although water level dropped about 5 feet and low-level alarms in the spent fuel pool worked, the leak was not specifically identified for several hours because a leak detection device was valved out and none of the seals were instrumented to alarm on loss of air pressure.

The NRC document goes on to note that if the water level had gotten low enough to expose the fuel the high radiation level around the pool would have made it difficult for workers to fix the problem.

The closed air line in the Hatch case had the same result that lack of electric power the air pump inflating the seals in Japan could have.

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- bill   Nuclear Disaster Unfolding In Fukushima   Mar 15 2011, 11:22 AM
- - bill   from George Ure at Urbansurvival today http://urb...   Mar 15 2011, 11:31 AM
- - bill   http://www.nytimes.com/2011/03/16/world/as...amp;_...   Mar 15 2011, 11:42 AM
- - lunk   http://earthquake.usgs.gov/earthquakes/recenteqsan...   Mar 15 2011, 12:14 PM
- - bill   eta link http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article...   Mar 15 2011, 12:15 PM
- - Johnny Angel   Beyond Nuclear.Org. The danger of the Nuclear was...   Mar 15 2011, 01:38 PM
- - DoYouEverWonder   QUOTE Heavy fallout from Japan nuclear scandal ...   Mar 15 2011, 02:49 PM
- - tumetuestumefaisdubien   When I read the measurements then it looks to me b...   Mar 15 2011, 03:21 PM
|- - Omega892R09   QUOTE (tumetuestumefaisdubien @ Mar 13 2011, ...   Mar 16 2011, 07:33 AM
|- - lunk   QUOTE (Omega892R09 @ Mar 16 2011, 03:33 A...   Mar 16 2011, 10:49 AM
- - GroundPounder   QUOTE (lunk @ Mar 14 2011, 01:49 PM) The ...   Mar 16 2011, 12:39 PM
- - Omega892R09   I don't know if any have seen these yet but wo...   Mar 16 2011, 06:40 PM
|- - lunk   QUOTE (Omega892R09 @ Mar 16 2011, 02:40 P...   Mar 16 2011, 10:53 PM
|- - Omega892R09   QUOTE (lunk @ Mar 15 2011, 12:53 AM) Hmmm...   Mar 17 2011, 08:33 AM
- - albertchampion   what can you tell me about radiation? how is it me...   Mar 17 2011, 02:31 AM
|- - Omega892R09   QUOTE (albertchampion @ Mar 15 2011, 04:3...   Mar 17 2011, 01:58 PM
||- - tumetuestumefaisdubien   QUOTE (Omega892R09 @ Mar 17 2011, 06:58 A...   Mar 17 2011, 05:37 PM
||- - Omega892R09   QUOTE (tumetuestumefaisdubien @ Mar 15 2011, ...   Mar 18 2011, 08:06 AM
|- - Ricochet   QUOTE (albertchampion @ Mar 16 2011, 10:3...   Mar 17 2011, 03:34 PM
- - tumetuestumefaisdubien   New video from Fukushima taken from TEPCO copter: ...   Mar 17 2011, 12:29 PM
- - tumetuestumefaisdubien   according to last measurements -if we would believ...   Mar 18 2011, 12:20 AM
- - Omega892R09   And then we have this cretin creature poking fun a...   Mar 18 2011, 08:19 AM
|- - bobcat46   QUOTE (Omega892R09 @ Mar 16 2011, 10:19 A...   Mar 18 2011, 09:50 AM
- - GroundPounder   ok what am i missing here. the chart from: http:/...   Mar 18 2011, 09:06 AM
|- - Omega892R09   QUOTE (GroundPounder @ Mar 16 2011, 11:06...   Mar 18 2011, 09:36 AM
|- - tumetuestumefaisdubien   QUOTE (GroundPounder @ Mar 18 2011, 02:06...   Mar 18 2011, 04:33 PM
- - bill   US Military evacuating Japan U.S. Navy Capt. Er...   Mar 18 2011, 10:27 AM
- - IslandPilot   tume: Thanks for this useful chart. It helps to p...   Mar 18 2011, 10:39 AM
- - Ricochet   http://www.radiationnetwork.com/ Reactor status h...   Mar 18 2011, 02:07 PM
- - bill   Obama said yesterday :“The Centers for Disease Co...   Mar 18 2011, 03:47 PM
- - bill   "So if the TEPCO measurements are real" ...   Mar 18 2011, 04:13 PM
- - bill   I have been monitoring CNN for the last hour no ...   Mar 18 2011, 04:30 PM
- - GroundPounder   QUOTE (tumetuestumefaisdubien @ Mar 16 2011, ...   Mar 18 2011, 06:11 PM
|- - tumetuestumefaisdubien   QUOTE (GroundPounder @ Mar 18 2011, 11:11...   Mar 18 2011, 11:48 PM
- - Ricochet   The (US) EPA radiation map website, RadNet has bee...   Mar 18 2011, 06:36 PM
- - bill   https://cdxnode64.epa.gov/radnet-public/showMap.do...   Mar 18 2011, 09:45 PM
- - bill   Still patient here but no data they must be rea...   Mar 18 2011, 10:54 PM
|- - dMz   QUOTE (bill @ Mar 18 2011, 08:54 PM) Stil...   Mar 19 2011, 06:34 PM
- - Ricochet   Chernobyl did not have PLUTONIUM for fuel.   Mar 19 2011, 02:18 AM
|- - tumetuestumefaisdubien   QUOTE (Ricochet @ Mar 18 2011, 07:18 PM) ...   Mar 19 2011, 10:58 AM
- - GroundPounder   i would agree tume, that under normal conditions c...   Mar 19 2011, 06:54 AM
- - lunk   We got the data from Chernobyl, after it was final...   Mar 19 2011, 07:12 AM
- - GroundPounder   just listening to alan watt from last night and he...   Mar 19 2011, 08:41 AM
- - bill   Still waiting for the EPA site for data this morni...   Mar 19 2011, 09:57 AM
- - Johnny Angel   No offense.. but your last sentence.. False argume...   Mar 19 2011, 01:31 PM
|- - tumetuestumefaisdubien   QUOTE (Johnny Angel @ Mar 19 2011, 06:31 ...   Mar 19 2011, 04:38 PM
- - Ricochet   Update March 19 22:00H http://www.jaif.or.jp/engli...   Mar 19 2011, 01:46 PM
- - Ricochet   Natural News has this to say on MOX fuel. QUOTE (...   Mar 19 2011, 05:02 PM
|- - tumetuestumefaisdubien   QUOTE (Ricochet @ Mar 19 2011, 10:02 AM) ...   Mar 19 2011, 06:09 PM
- - lunk   radiation sickness n. Illness induced by exposure...   Mar 19 2011, 06:10 PM
|- - tumetuestumefaisdubien   QUOTE (lunk @ Mar 19 2011, 11:10 AM) This...   Mar 19 2011, 06:24 PM
|- - lunk   QUOTE (tumetuestumefaisdubien @ Mar 19 2011, ...   Mar 19 2011, 06:50 PM
- - GroundPounder   QUOTE (lunk @ Mar 17 2011, 09:50 PM) is i...   Mar 19 2011, 08:03 PM
|- - lunk   QUOTE (GroundPounder @ Mar 19 2011, 04:03...   Mar 19 2011, 08:17 PM
- - Johnny Angel   Tume.. I am not going to argue your facts and cha...   Mar 19 2011, 10:12 PM
|- - tumetuestumefaisdubien   QUOTE (Johnny Angel @ Mar 19 2011, 03:12 ...   Mar 20 2011, 12:15 PM
- - BarryWilliamsmb   In my naivety of the Japanese culture I get the fe...   Mar 19 2011, 10:37 PM
- - BarryWilliamsmb   I've been following this event from the beginn...   Mar 20 2011, 12:07 AM
- - GroundPounder   QUOTE (BarryWilliamsmb @ Mar 18 2011, 01...   Mar 20 2011, 07:21 AM
- - lunk   How radioactive? there seems to be only 3 levels ...   Mar 20 2011, 07:29 AM
|- - tumetuestumefaisdubien   QUOTE (lunk @ Mar 20 2011, 12:29 AM) How ...   Mar 20 2011, 01:16 PM
|- - maturin42   Just imagine if, instead of nuclear power, the pow...   Mar 20 2011, 01:49 PM
|- - tumetuestumefaisdubien   QUOTE (maturin42 @ Mar 20 2011, 06:49 AM)...   Mar 20 2011, 02:46 PM
||- - p.w.rapp   QUOTE (tumetuestumefaisdubien @ Mar 20 2011, ...   Mar 21 2011, 06:36 AM
||- - tumetuestumefaisdubien   QUOTE (p.w.rapp @ Mar 20 2011, 11:36 PM) ...   Mar 21 2011, 10:33 AM
|- - DoYouEverWonder   QUOTE (maturin42 @ Mar 20 2011, 12:49 PM)...   Mar 20 2011, 03:26 PM
|- - tumetuestumefaisdubien   QUOTE (DoYouEverWonder @ Mar 20 2011, 08...   Mar 20 2011, 03:38 PM
- - bill   Now, this is what I call safe Notice how safe rea...   Mar 20 2011, 02:09 PM
- - GroundPounder   QUOTE (maturin42 @ Mar 18 2011, 04:49 PM)...   Mar 20 2011, 02:12 PM
- - bill   (Emphasis added is mine) more well engineered saf...   Mar 20 2011, 02:19 PM
|- - tumetuestumefaisdubien   QUOTE (bill @ Mar 20 2011, 07:19 AM) fun...   Mar 20 2011, 03:10 PM
- - bill   How about Germany with nearly 30 Giga watts of sol...   Mar 20 2011, 03:05 PM
|- - tumetuestumefaisdubien   QUOTE (bill @ Mar 20 2011, 08:05 AM) How ...   Mar 20 2011, 03:34 PM
- - bill   Clearly the diagram is meant for illustration only...   Mar 20 2011, 03:35 PM
|- - tumetuestumefaisdubien   QUOTE (bill @ Mar 20 2011, 08:35 AM) Clea...   Mar 20 2011, 03:53 PM
- - GroundPounder   the problems with all of this banter is that the p...   Mar 20 2011, 03:39 PM
|- - tumetuestumefaisdubien   QUOTE (GroundPounder @ Mar 20 2011, 08:39...   Mar 20 2011, 03:59 PM
- - bill   "yeah, especially at night I expect it will s...   Mar 20 2011, 03:39 PM
- - bill   tume you seem to be full of 'it' too   Mar 20 2011, 03:58 PM
|- - tumetuestumefaisdubien   QUOTE (bill @ Mar 20 2011, 08:58 AM) tume...   Mar 20 2011, 04:01 PM
- - GroundPounder   what's a few extra cancers among friends? we a...   Mar 20 2011, 04:28 PM
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- - bill   http://www.targetmap.com/viewer.aspx?reportId=4870...   Mar 20 2011, 07:20 PM
- - lunk   The timing of this disaster in Japan was a perfect...   Mar 21 2011, 08:16 AM
|- - tumetuestumefaisdubien   QUOTE (lunk @ Mar 21 2011, 01:16 AM) Was ...   Mar 21 2011, 09:41 AM
- - bill   http://www.kirotv.com/news/27248974/detail.html ...   Mar 21 2011, 09:05 AM
- - GroundPounder   greg palast has an interesting article on the nucl...   Mar 21 2011, 11:41 AM
|- - tumetuestumefaisdubien   QUOTE (GroundPounder @ Mar 21 2011, 04:41...   Mar 21 2011, 03:11 PM
- - bill   http://www.kirotv.com/news/27248974/detail.html ...   Mar 21 2011, 11:57 AM
|- - tumetuestumefaisdubien   QUOTE (bill @ Mar 21 2011, 04:57 AM) 200,...   Mar 21 2011, 06:31 PM
- - bill   http://www.dw-world.de/dw/article/0,,14926992,00.h...   Mar 21 2011, 12:27 PM
|- - lunk   QUOTE (bill @ Mar 21 2011, 08:27 AM) http...   Mar 21 2011, 03:14 PM
- - GroundPounder   tume, you are missing the forest from the trees. ...   Mar 21 2011, 03:44 PM
|- - tumetuestumefaisdubien   QUOTE (GroundPounder @ Mar 21 2011, 08:44...   Mar 21 2011, 04:20 PM
- - GroundPounder   QUOTE (lunk @ Mar 19 2011, 06:14 PM) Whit...   Mar 21 2011, 03:46 PM
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- - tumetuestumefaisdubien   QUOTE (GroundPounder @ Mar 21 2011, 10:24...   Mar 21 2011, 05:34 PM
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