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Nuclear Disaster Unfolding In Fukushima

bill
post Mar 15 2011, 11:22 AM
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This getting worse every day


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post Mar 21 2011, 05:24 PM
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QUOTE (tumetuestumefaisdubien @ Mar 19 2011, 08:15 PM) *
I think I understand english enough to understand what Palast have written and my reply that I would sign it meant just that I completely agree with his cited statement, because I happen to also know something about how the superbig companies work - it is not just corruption and criminal negligence, but unfortunately often also stupidity of the feeling that nothing can happen to them and that security measures are often decided there not by people who know the job, but by bureaucrats which are there just because they're politically fit - Murphy's laws are amplified the more the company grows. And the basic one is that shit happens.


ok , so having said 'that shit happens', you're of the opinion then, that 'shit' happening at a nuke plant is less of an issue than 'shit' happening at a conventional power plant? that's what you are on the record as attesting to?
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QUOTE (GroundPounder @ Mar 21 2011, 10:24 AM) *
ok , so having said 'that shit happens', you're of the opinion then, that 'shit' happening at a nuke plant is less of an issue than 'shit' happening at a conventional power plant? that's what you are on the record as attesting to?

Yeah looks like the by quake breached hydro plant in Fukushima killed hundreds of people adding another tsunami this time going from inland. At the Fukushima nuclear plant nobody died so far. With the coal plants you even don't need an accident, it is apparently considered perfectly normal that the pollution from the coal plants in USA kill 20000+ people yearly and just the J. Hansen is protesting against it and when he does so, than all cry, he misuses his position in NASA. (I strongly don't agree with Hansen's crazy "Venus run-out" AGW scaremongering, but I think he's right when protesting against the coal plants, because they daily kill the people - moreover paradoxically by radiation pollution which is 100 times bigger than from a nuke plant producing the same amount of electricity - because the burned coal and subsequently the dust in the smoke is relatively highly radioactive and toxic, because coal is one of the best binders of heavy metals including the radioactive ones - that's like you would take the nukeplant fuel rods, grind them and time to time put the powder in the fire there)

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- bill   Nuclear Disaster Unfolding In Fukushima   Mar 15 2011, 11:22 AM
- - bill   from George Ure at Urbansurvival today http://urb...   Mar 15 2011, 11:31 AM
- - bill   http://www.nytimes.com/2011/03/16/world/as...amp;_...   Mar 15 2011, 11:42 AM
- - lunk   http://earthquake.usgs.gov/earthquakes/recenteqsan...   Mar 15 2011, 12:14 PM
- - bill   eta link http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article...   Mar 15 2011, 12:15 PM
- - Johnny Angel   Beyond Nuclear.Org. The danger of the Nuclear was...   Mar 15 2011, 01:38 PM
- - DoYouEverWonder   QUOTE Heavy fallout from Japan nuclear scandal ...   Mar 15 2011, 02:49 PM
- - tumetuestumefaisdubien   When I read the measurements then it looks to me b...   Mar 15 2011, 03:21 PM
|- - Omega892R09   QUOTE (tumetuestumefaisdubien @ Mar 13 2011, ...   Mar 16 2011, 07:33 AM
|- - lunk   QUOTE (Omega892R09 @ Mar 16 2011, 03:33 A...   Mar 16 2011, 10:49 AM
- - GroundPounder   QUOTE (lunk @ Mar 14 2011, 01:49 PM) The ...   Mar 16 2011, 12:39 PM
- - Omega892R09   I don't know if any have seen these yet but wo...   Mar 16 2011, 06:40 PM
|- - lunk   QUOTE (Omega892R09 @ Mar 16 2011, 02:40 P...   Mar 16 2011, 10:53 PM
|- - Omega892R09   QUOTE (lunk @ Mar 15 2011, 12:53 AM) Hmmm...   Mar 17 2011, 08:33 AM
- - albertchampion   what can you tell me about radiation? how is it me...   Mar 17 2011, 02:31 AM
|- - Omega892R09   QUOTE (albertchampion @ Mar 15 2011, 04:3...   Mar 17 2011, 01:58 PM
||- - tumetuestumefaisdubien   QUOTE (Omega892R09 @ Mar 17 2011, 06:58 A...   Mar 17 2011, 05:37 PM
||- - Omega892R09   QUOTE (tumetuestumefaisdubien @ Mar 15 2011, ...   Mar 18 2011, 08:06 AM
|- - Ricochet   QUOTE (albertchampion @ Mar 16 2011, 10:3...   Mar 17 2011, 03:34 PM
- - tumetuestumefaisdubien   New video from Fukushima taken from TEPCO copter: ...   Mar 17 2011, 12:29 PM
- - tumetuestumefaisdubien   according to last measurements -if we would believ...   Mar 18 2011, 12:20 AM
- - Omega892R09   And then we have this cretin creature poking fun a...   Mar 18 2011, 08:19 AM
|- - bobcat46   QUOTE (Omega892R09 @ Mar 16 2011, 10:19 A...   Mar 18 2011, 09:50 AM
- - GroundPounder   ok what am i missing here. the chart from: http:/...   Mar 18 2011, 09:06 AM
|- - Omega892R09   QUOTE (GroundPounder @ Mar 16 2011, 11:06...   Mar 18 2011, 09:36 AM
|- - tumetuestumefaisdubien   QUOTE (GroundPounder @ Mar 18 2011, 02:06...   Mar 18 2011, 04:33 PM
- - bill   US Military evacuating Japan U.S. Navy Capt. Er...   Mar 18 2011, 10:27 AM
- - IslandPilot   tume: Thanks for this useful chart. It helps to p...   Mar 18 2011, 10:39 AM
- - Ricochet   http://www.radiationnetwork.com/ Reactor status h...   Mar 18 2011, 02:07 PM
- - bill   Obama said yesterday :“The Centers for Disease Co...   Mar 18 2011, 03:47 PM
- - bill   "So if the TEPCO measurements are real" ...   Mar 18 2011, 04:13 PM
- - bill   I have been monitoring CNN for the last hour no ...   Mar 18 2011, 04:30 PM
- - GroundPounder   QUOTE (tumetuestumefaisdubien @ Mar 16 2011, ...   Mar 18 2011, 06:11 PM
|- - tumetuestumefaisdubien   QUOTE (GroundPounder @ Mar 18 2011, 11:11...   Mar 18 2011, 11:48 PM
- - Ricochet   The (US) EPA radiation map website, RadNet has bee...   Mar 18 2011, 06:36 PM
- - bill   https://cdxnode64.epa.gov/radnet-public/showMap.do...   Mar 18 2011, 09:45 PM
- - bill   Still patient here but no data they must be rea...   Mar 18 2011, 10:54 PM
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- - Ricochet   Chernobyl did not have PLUTONIUM for fuel.   Mar 19 2011, 02:18 AM
|- - tumetuestumefaisdubien   QUOTE (Ricochet @ Mar 18 2011, 07:18 PM) ...   Mar 19 2011, 10:58 AM
- - GroundPounder   i would agree tume, that under normal conditions c...   Mar 19 2011, 06:54 AM
- - lunk   We got the data from Chernobyl, after it was final...   Mar 19 2011, 07:12 AM
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- - bill   Still waiting for the EPA site for data this morni...   Mar 19 2011, 09:57 AM
- - Johnny Angel   No offense.. but your last sentence.. False argume...   Mar 19 2011, 01:31 PM
|- - tumetuestumefaisdubien   QUOTE (Johnny Angel @ Mar 19 2011, 06:31 ...   Mar 19 2011, 04:38 PM
- - Ricochet   Update March 19 22:00H http://www.jaif.or.jp/engli...   Mar 19 2011, 01:46 PM
- - Ricochet   Natural News has this to say on MOX fuel. QUOTE (...   Mar 19 2011, 05:02 PM
|- - tumetuestumefaisdubien   QUOTE (Ricochet @ Mar 19 2011, 10:02 AM) ...   Mar 19 2011, 06:09 PM
- - lunk   radiation sickness n. Illness induced by exposure...   Mar 19 2011, 06:10 PM
|- - tumetuestumefaisdubien   QUOTE (lunk @ Mar 19 2011, 11:10 AM) This...   Mar 19 2011, 06:24 PM
|- - lunk   QUOTE (tumetuestumefaisdubien @ Mar 19 2011, ...   Mar 19 2011, 06:50 PM
- - GroundPounder   QUOTE (lunk @ Mar 17 2011, 09:50 PM) is i...   Mar 19 2011, 08:03 PM
|- - lunk   QUOTE (GroundPounder @ Mar 19 2011, 04:03...   Mar 19 2011, 08:17 PM
- - Johnny Angel   Tume.. I am not going to argue your facts and cha...   Mar 19 2011, 10:12 PM
|- - tumetuestumefaisdubien   QUOTE (Johnny Angel @ Mar 19 2011, 03:12 ...   Mar 20 2011, 12:15 PM
- - BarryWilliamsmb   In my naivety of the Japanese culture I get the fe...   Mar 19 2011, 10:37 PM
- - BarryWilliamsmb   I've been following this event from the beginn...   Mar 20 2011, 12:07 AM
- - GroundPounder   QUOTE (BarryWilliamsmb @ Mar 18 2011, 01...   Mar 20 2011, 07:21 AM
- - lunk   How radioactive? there seems to be only 3 levels ...   Mar 20 2011, 07:29 AM
|- - tumetuestumefaisdubien   QUOTE (lunk @ Mar 20 2011, 12:29 AM) How ...   Mar 20 2011, 01:16 PM
|- - maturin42   Just imagine if, instead of nuclear power, the pow...   Mar 20 2011, 01:49 PM
|- - tumetuestumefaisdubien   QUOTE (maturin42 @ Mar 20 2011, 06:49 AM)...   Mar 20 2011, 02:46 PM
||- - p.w.rapp   QUOTE (tumetuestumefaisdubien @ Mar 20 2011, ...   Mar 21 2011, 06:36 AM
||- - tumetuestumefaisdubien   QUOTE (p.w.rapp @ Mar 20 2011, 11:36 PM) ...   Mar 21 2011, 10:33 AM
|- - DoYouEverWonder   QUOTE (maturin42 @ Mar 20 2011, 12:49 PM)...   Mar 20 2011, 03:26 PM
|- - tumetuestumefaisdubien   QUOTE (DoYouEverWonder @ Mar 20 2011, 08...   Mar 20 2011, 03:38 PM
- - bill   Now, this is what I call safe Notice how safe rea...   Mar 20 2011, 02:09 PM
- - GroundPounder   QUOTE (maturin42 @ Mar 18 2011, 04:49 PM)...   Mar 20 2011, 02:12 PM
- - bill   (Emphasis added is mine) more well engineered saf...   Mar 20 2011, 02:19 PM
|- - tumetuestumefaisdubien   QUOTE (bill @ Mar 20 2011, 07:19 AM) fun...   Mar 20 2011, 03:10 PM
- - bill   How about Germany with nearly 30 Giga watts of sol...   Mar 20 2011, 03:05 PM
|- - tumetuestumefaisdubien   QUOTE (bill @ Mar 20 2011, 08:05 AM) How ...   Mar 20 2011, 03:34 PM
- - bill   Clearly the diagram is meant for illustration only...   Mar 20 2011, 03:35 PM
|- - tumetuestumefaisdubien   QUOTE (bill @ Mar 20 2011, 08:35 AM) Clea...   Mar 20 2011, 03:53 PM
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- - bill   tume you seem to be full of 'it' too   Mar 20 2011, 03:58 PM
|- - tumetuestumefaisdubien   QUOTE (bill @ Mar 20 2011, 08:58 AM) tume...   Mar 20 2011, 04:01 PM
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- - bill   http://www.kirotv.com/news/27248974/detail.html ...   Mar 21 2011, 09:05 AM
- - GroundPounder   greg palast has an interesting article on the nucl...   Mar 21 2011, 11:41 AM
|- - tumetuestumefaisdubien   QUOTE (GroundPounder @ Mar 21 2011, 04:41...   Mar 21 2011, 03:11 PM
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|- - lunk   QUOTE (bill @ Mar 21 2011, 08:27 AM) http...   Mar 21 2011, 03:14 PM
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|- - tumetuestumefaisdubien   QUOTE (GroundPounder @ Mar 21 2011, 08:44...   Mar 21 2011, 04:20 PM
- - GroundPounder   QUOTE (lunk @ Mar 19 2011, 06:14 PM) Whit...   Mar 21 2011, 03:46 PM
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