The PenRen Generator?, split & merged threads Options

[Ricochet]

Would anyone like to discuss the generator trailer? Triaxle, 8'6 x 40' x 13'6"

[EDIT: Generator posts split from here by d:

What Hit The Pentagon? Nothing., Listened to this yesterday
http://pilotsfor911truth.org/forum/index.p...=12341&st=0 ]

[tnemelckram]

I have huge problems with the word "projectile" being used to describe or otherwise being associated with these planes.

A "projectile" by definition is designed to concentrate its mass at the business end - the point - in order to penetrate something. Part of that design is making it of some material likely to produce that effect.

The mass of an airplane is not concentrated - it is spread out along the wings. Moreover, it is made of light weight metals that are intended to allow iy to fly which is the exact opposite of hardened metals that would allow it to penetrate something.

In short, an airplane is not a bullet. The unwarranted use of this word a priori is just another example of Cheap Jedi Mind Tricks. Not that I want to be a Language Nazi, but the other side did it first.

[dMz]

I have huge problems with the word "projectile" being used to describe or otherwise being associated with these planes.

A "projectile" by definition is designed to concentrate its mass at the business end - the point - in order to penetrate something. Part of that design is making it of some material likely to produce that effect.

Ummm, incorrect TN. While others are free to determine their personal usage of the word, I will stick with the scientific (often vector-based) definition(s). I know that the "m" word gets people "edgy," so I specifically avoided that one.

http://www.physicsclassroom.com/Class/vectors/U3L2a.cfm

"A projectile is an object upon which the only force acting is gravity. There are a variety of examples of projectiles. An object dropped from rest is a projectile (provided that the influence of air resistance is negligible). An object which is thrown vertically upward is also a projectile (provided that the influence of air resistance is negligible). And an object is which thrown upward at an angle to the horizontal is also a projectile (provided that the influence of air resistance is negligible). A projectile is any object which once projected or dropped continues in motion by its own inertia and is influenced only by the downward force of gravity."

There are other applicable definitions in common usage, too:

http://www.answers.com/topic/projectile

"n.

1. A fired, thrown, or otherwise propelled object, such as a bullet, having no capacity for self-propulsion.
2. A self-propelled missile, such as a rocket.
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US Military Dictionary: projectile
n. 1. a missile designed to be fired from a rocket or gun.

2. an object propelled through the air, especially one thrown as a weapon: they tried to shield Johnson from the projectiles that were being thrown.

adj. of or relating to such a missile or object: a projectile weapon.
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Sports Science and Medicine: projectile

Any airborne object, such as a human body during a jump, a football kicked in the air, and a javelin in flight, that is subject only to the forces of gravity and air resistance. A projectile's motion is determined by three main mechanical factors: angle of projection, the projectile's initial speed (see speed of release), and relative height of projection.
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I'm skipping the medical defintion, because that one is pretty disgusting. (IMG:http://pilotsfor911truth.org/forum/style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif)

[tnemelckram]

Hi dMole!

Ummm, incorrect TN.

Yep, your right and the use of "projectile" is proper. . Sorry about that. It's just that lately all my antennae start to quiver when I see possible "loaded" or emotionally charged words.

This post has been edited by tnemelckram: Feb 6 2009, 09:32 AM