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We All Know Now Corley Never Had A Clue What Became Of United Airlines Flight 175, A detailed analysis of corrupted UA175 evidence.

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post May 19 2011, 12:04 AM
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In the beginning I’d questioned my own sanity and rationale for ever doubting Mr. W. Gene Corley’s World Trade Center findings because after all he is an expert. I even convinced myself it had been an astoundingly fortuitous bit of luck that a lone piece of reasonably intact aircraft wreckage bearing the UA175 registration number managed to exit WTC 2 virtually unscathed. Only to be spared again being torn asunder by the devastatingly powerful force generated by the collapse of both Towers pummeling down onto it, but much to my amazement it had and what’s more then by the stroke of good luck it was discovered there on the rooftop of WTC 5, sunny side up and ready to be solved like a dime store mystery, just like it happens in the movie.

Not long after that I woke up and my United Airlines flight 175 investigation began. That research came about as a result of not being able to accept the many inconsistent facts and contradictory statements made by Mr. W. Gene Corley throughout the past 9 ½ years. As such I looked into the matter myself, thus managing with little difficulty to turn up some rather startling and damning facts therein the official FEMA evidence itself. That evidence shows there had been a real and concerted effort on the part of some WTC investigators to pervert the course of due process. Every indication is they manipulated the aircraft wreckage/evidence in such a manner as to dictate the direction the World Trade Center site investigation. Without having conducted even the most rudimentary aircraft accident/crime scene investigation it was a foregone conclusion on their part United Airlines flight 175 had crashed into World Trade Center 2. In fact their only reasoning and justification for that conclusion is both UA175 and AA11 are missing and unaccounted for to this very day therefore they were destroyed at ground zero, case closed!

Quite frankly then I’ve no doubt any more the man who spearheaded the WTC site team of investigators lied before the 9/11 Commission and with respect to the destruction of UA175 at ground zero in my opinion he still lies to this very day about having recovered wreckage that proved that aircraft was destroyed at ground zero. In fact he proved nothing of the sort and every indication is the true UA175 could not possibly have crashed into World Trade Center 2. Thanks to the recent release of a vast depository of NIST video footage and photographic material into the public domain (via a court awarded FOIA request) out of that goldmine of 9/11 evidence came two exceptionally revealing evidentiary exhibits which prove that to be the case.

By far and undoubtedly then the NIST Cumulus dataset (located at the International Center for 9/11 studies) is the most telling and comprehensive collection of 9/11 photographic and video evidence to have been amassed by the official 9/11 investigation and those two evidentiary exhibits alone are especially damning for Mr. Corley’s WTC investigation and reputation as an expert consultant in any such matter.

In fact both the Tami Michael’s video footage (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oEn_IE2fGYg) and (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tbbUFhqmP-k) showing the WTC attacks along with the altogether damning photograph (Natasha Sealy_MVC-005F_WTC5_Roof) that was taken in the immediate aftermath of the attacks shows the rooftop of World Trade Center 5 like no other, thus confirming everything I’ve said to date and in opposition to Mr. Corley’s insistence he confirmed UA175 struck WTC 2 when in fact he did no such thing. In fact I’ve no doubt these two exhibits by themselves prove the man was either altogether complicit in a conspiracy of sorts to keep hidden from view the true identity of the supposedly hijacked UA175 or he’s simply just that incompetent for having failed miserably to conduct a thorough, impartial and transparent investigation that would have positively identified the WTC aircraft.

As such and according to Mr. Corley then the WTC investigators combed through that evidence in its entirety and by it they arrived at their conclusion as to what felled both WTC towers. So too he continually reminds people of the chain of custody marrying his conclusions with that body of NIST evidence. For that reason and due to the great importance placed by him on any evidence drawn from that depository of proof I too came to my own conclusions by referring to the evidence therein. As a result of what truths I’d discovered there my findings are also worthy of serious consideration and people need to seriously question this individuals’ role in 9/11.

Without a doubt then there’s compelling evidence to suggest some of the World Trade Center site tall building inspectors while working under the auspices of Mr. W. Gene Corley did so corrupt the aircraft wreckage/crime scene investigation by tampering with evidence thereon World Trade Center 5. As well it seems they all but lied by alluding to their having first “discovered” that alleged UA175 evidence there, when in fact every indication is that wreckage had been planted there and was known to exist well before they took credit for accessing and assessing that rooftop. By “planted” I mean the wreckage had been carried onto the rooftop by persons as yet unknown and left there - it did not fall there from the sky!

Natasha Sealy’s September 11th, 2001 photograph makes that point abundantly clear, being that her image shows no aircraft wreckage to speak of can be seen at the foot of the stairs on the rooftop of WTC 5 that is. The fact her photograph was taken within minutes of WTC 2 having been impacted by whatever aircraft most definitely belies Mr. Corley’s statements made in such esteemed publications as Popular Mechanics, wherein he attests he knows for sure it was UA175 wreckage found on WTC 5 and for half-baked reasons. Ever more damning then is the fact his WTC site investigators managed to photograph it there 44 days later, on October 25, 2001 while the NIST Cumulus dataset records show their time spent on that rooftop produced a whopping solitary photograph depicting falsified aircraft wreckage in what can only be described as a severely compromised piece of evidentiary proof in and of itself.

For that reason I’ve never been more convinced an unknown number of FBI, NTSB and FEMA/ASCE WTC site investigators conspired to falsify evidentiary proof of United Airlines flight 175 aircraft wreckage at ground zero and they did so deliberately fabricate that evidence for the sole purpose of influencing the outcome of the WTC site UA175 investigation. To that end they helped convince the world that “Islamist Terrorists” worked alone to hijack domestic commercial aircraft in order to commit mass murder. My intuition tells me they did not work alone and therefore those who contributed to that heinous criminality were complicit in treason and murder as well, on the worst imaginable scale. Indeed they also knowingly or otherwise aided and abetted the well concealed conspiracy to deceive the 9/11 Commission and the public - Mr. W. Gene Corley’s actions are part and parcel to that fraud, whether or not he is aware of the fact and for that reason there will be no quarter given on my part.

Having said that while at first glance that FEMA photograph does seem to support Mr. Corley’s assertion bits of United Airlines flight 175 had settled on WTC 5 soon after having crashed into WTC 2 the truth is that photograph had been specifically altered to ensure anyone who laid eyes on it couldn’t help but arrive at that conclusion and I know this just like he knows it was UA175…!

The FEMA image of aircraft wreckage supposedly “discovered” and recovered on the rooftop of World Trade Center 5 http://www.fema.gov/photolibrary/photo_details.do?id=12390 is the only photograph ever published and made public by the government. No other physical proof pointing to possible UA175 aircraft wreckage has ever been released by the government. Because I thought that seemed quite suspicious I began to focus my attention on the known official evidence relating to it and my research shows that specific piece of aircraft wreckage never came to rest on the rooftop of WTC 5 by having fallen there on its own from on high and WTC 2. As well my findings confirm the aircraft registration number seen on the wreckage in that FEMA photographic evidence was NEVER on the wreckage to begin with.

In fact a videotape http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qz70AbD5W5Y...feature=related said to have been recorded by Gary Steficek on the rooftop of World Trade Center 5 proves not only had the wreckage itself been arranged in place on WTC 5 and prior to it being photographed but the photograph itself and its subject matter had been altered from the original state by Adobe Photoshop prior to it being entered into the May 1, 2002 World Trade Center Building Performance Study. The changes made to the FEMA photograph strongly suggest the alterations made to it were solely intended to bolster the governments overall WTC attack storyline while at the same time corroborating the WTC site investigator’s findings and conclusions regarding hijacked commercial airliners and UA175 specifically. Not surprisingly then its falsification was an essential part of the overall conspiracy to mask the true identity of the offending WTC 2 attack aircraft.

More to the point then - the photograph had to show a portion of the fuselage that would allow for the positive identification of UA175 and its undeniable then the aircraft wreckage seen in the FEMA image had been Adobe Photoshop manipulated by someone tasked with making that wreckage appear to be from a very specific area of the UA175 airframe. That said its impossible the aircraft registration number was photographed (as it is shown in the May 1, 2002 WTC BPS) by any World Trade Center site investigator including the FBI and NTSB. For the simply reason being because the Gary Steficek video footage http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qz70AbD5W5Y...feature=related shows that area of the wreckage was non-existent in the first place!
What’s more that painted-on detail (partial aircraft registration number) in many ways seriously conflicts with what’s known of any Boeing 767 fuselage superstructure. So if we’re to believe Mr. Corley studied the wreckage and reviewed absolutely every last photo and foot of videotape evidence, as he claims to have done to prove himself, then if nothing else the (release 28, file 42A0310 – G28D15) NIST Cumulus dataset proves hands down he lied about what he knew of its make-up and/or the origin of that wreckage.

In summation then the Gary Steficek video footage conclusively proves the bits of aircraft wreckage seen therein had been cobbled together and pre-arranged on the rooftop of WTC 5 while the FEMA/ASCE photographic evidence proves those same bits were also cobbled together in the photo-lab using Adobe Photoshop enhancement - especially by the addition made to it of the partial aircraft registration number. While the Tami Michael’s and Natasha Sealy evidence proves that aircraft wreckage never existed on the rooftop of WTC 5 in the first place it remains to be seen whether the FBI, NTSB or the FEMA/ASCE investigators were responsible for planting that wreckage there in the weeks following 9/11. Regardless of that the NIST Cumulus dataset material evidence is merciless for showing the WTC site investigators had nothing in the way of evidence even remotely associated with UA175 and any such intimation therein the May 1, 2002 WTC BPS goes to show how patently absurd and truly misleading that orchestrated whitewash is.

In fact while that report falls well short of proving any civil registered/commercially operated aircraft crashed into WTC 2 it also ignominiously credits Mr. Gary Steficek for having taken the video footage http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qz70AbD5W5Y...feature=related when in fact not once is Gary Steficek listed anywhere in that report as having been one of Mr. Corley’s hand-picked and much vaunted WTC site team members. The report lists him as a business partner with Gilsanz Murray Steficek, LLP and once again as a salvage yard volunteer who undoubtedly worked alongside Ramon Gilsanz there on site. Mr. Ramon Gilsanz on the other hand is confirmed there in the May 1, 2002 WTC BPS as having investigated the WTC site as a team member working under the auspices of Mr. Corley. He is also accredited with co-authoring several chapters of that report including chapter 4 which not surprisingly then just so happens to explain in great detail WTC 5 while at the same time all but ignoring the aircraft wreckage he quite likely “discovered” on that building and was tasked with identifying as the wreckage of UA175.

So while the Ramon Gilsanz/Gary Steficek video footage serves well to disprove Mr. W. Gene Corley’s UA175 evidence and his proclamations regarding its chain of custody then Natasha Sealy’s photograph (Natasha Sealy_MVC-005F_WTC5_Roof) utterly devastates all of their combined credibility. There is no question her photograph was taken after WTC 2 was struck by the second aircraft - I’ve confirmed that by comparing her photograph to a segment of videotape (ABC Dub7 07) captured on 9/11 by Tami Michaels’s and her husband Guy Rosbrook. For those of you who are not familiar with their contribution to 9/11 truth they are accredited with taking what undoubtedly amounts to the most tragic and difficult to watch yet vitally important 9/11 Truth videotapes ever to be recorded at ground zero.

At the time the attacks at ground zero were underway they were sequestered in room (number 3502) of the Millenium Hilton Hotel and because the windows of their hotel room were facing due West and so overlooking the WTC plaza and towers, from that unprecedented vantage they unceremoniously recorded not just the second airplane attack but also the grave and ungodly slaughter of a countless score of innocent victims lives being cut short that morning. Their video footage is unparalleled in its honesty, brutality and detail and for that reason it was later used by Federal prosecutors in the penalty phase of the trial against Zacarias Moussaoui who incidentally had been tried and convicted of being a co-conspirator in the 9/11 attacks.

Of all their known video footage that morning two segments (ABC Dub7 07) and (ABC Dub7 13) therein really sum the entire affair up. There is a moment (ABC Dub7 07) when Tami Michael’s states “…and as we’ve been standing here we watched the second building get hit with another plane!” all the while the smoke billowing from WTC 2 is clearly discernable. Her statement along with the obvious sight of WTC 2 in flames are crucial points to my proving many of the accusations I levy in my research but undoubtedly then the shadow cast on the East face of WTC 1 therein that Tami Michael’s video footage proves my next point and beyond a doubt.

That shadow is the result of the morning sun coming up behind their hotel, which in turn projected the silhouette of their hotel tower across the plaza and onto the East face of WTC 1. Considering the fact that shadow was moving from the viewers left to right as the morning sun rose it confirms Natasha Sealy took her photograph not long after that segment of their video footage was captured. That is a fact that is verified by comparing the shadows on WTC 1 in both evidentiary exhibits. In light of their evidentiary proof then only a fool would argue neither exhibit shows the sun as I explain it or the rooftop of WTC 5 as it truly was immediately following the attacks. Assuming then we’re all in agreement and still on the same page here and nobody objects to that line of reasoning by it I was able to prove from Tami Michael’s and Natasha Sealy’s evidence not only the time and day for when Natasha Sealy took her photograph but more importantly the fact that no wreckage from the airplane that struck WTC 2 came to rest on the rooftop of WTC 5.

I’m sorry to say much of Tami Michael’s and Guy Rosbrook’s video footage has never been seen by the public and it’s a crime the rest of their evidence may never see the light of day. It would tell us so very much more of what actually happened that morning I’m sure, but chances are if my research becomes influential enough to help affect a new 9/11 investigation that original video footage will be taken from them and against their will, to be destroyed in the interest of national security no doubt. But until that day comes yet another reason to encourage its timely release to the International Center for 9/11 Studies is the massive discrepancy between what the May 1, 2002 WTC BPS report states as fact and the reality of how the debris on the rooftop of WTC 5 appeared in the minutes immediately following the second attack and thereafter.

In the Tami Michael’s and Guy Rosbrook’s video footage (ABC Dub7 07) that was recorded not long after WTC 2 had been struck clearly there is a relatively light deposit of building exterior aluminum cladding and building interior bric-a-brac strewn about the rooftop of WTC 5 and 6. That video compares with Natasha Sealy’s photograph so there’s no argument there, but when that video footage is compared with their (ABC Dub7 13) that was recorded not long after the collapse of WTC 2 notice how very intact and relatively uncluttered with debris the rooftops of WTC 5 and 6 still appear to be. Now compare that with the WTC site investigators Analysis of Building Performance statements regarding the rooftops of WTC 5 and 6 there in sub-chapter 4.3, on pages 4-11 and 4-12 of Chapter 4 respectively in the May 1, 2002 WTC BPS report. Therein it’s claimed “Pieces of WTC 1 and WTC 2” landed on the rooftop of both WTC 5 and 6 following the collapse of the first and second tower. That statement “Pieces of WTC 1 and WTC 2” and other erroneous conclusions therein are patently false, seeing as there’s not a single hole in either roof following the collapse of WTC 2. All of which goes to show how very devious and utterly myopic the tall building “expert consultants” proved themselves to be throughout their forensic analysis of the WTC site and wreckage.

The fact is not so much as a single massive structural steel column from the North East corner and two sides of WTC 2 was blown onto the rooftop of WTC 5 or 6 by the enormous, sustained force generated by its collapse. Yet we’re told to believe a speck of light weight aircraft aluminum punched clean through the core of WTC 2 and then made its way clear to the other side of the WTC complex, with a comparatively miniscule fart of force behind it! Nice try but I don’t think so, therefore the tall building expert’s wanton incompetence begs the question what are we to believe of their WTC site investigators findings? Certainly we can’t be expected to believe a speck of light weight aircraft aluminum punched clean through the core of WTC 2!
Needless to say then both Natasha Sealy’s photograph and Tami Michael’s video footage clearly shows aircraft wreckage never came to rest at the foot of the staircase located between the North and South penthouse mechanical rooms on WTC 5. In light of that and the very fact Mr. W. Gene Corley has stated repeatedly in numerous publications he’d reviewed every single bit of that evidence relating to the attack at ground zero then it’s safe to say he’s been lying about having tracked aircraft wreckage to where it fell on WTC 5, only then to have personally discovered, recovered and recorded it there…okay Mr. Corley but where’s your proof?

That being said at first sight absolutely everything about Mr. Corley’s aircraft wreckage seems anything but extraordinary or unusual, however. When comparing the FEMA photograph to the Gary Steficek videotape one cannot help by notice the glaring contradiction therein. The very reason that evidence conflicts when compared to one another is due primarily to how the wreckage had been laid out on the rooftop of WTC 5 in the first place.One would think the aircraft wreckage seen in the FEMA photograph should and would be a carbon-copy of how it appears in any of the other official evidentiary exhibits but it clearly doesn’t match any of them! So how can that be I ask when both exhibits are of the same physical evidence and purportedly represent evidentiary proof of United Airlines flight 175 (N612UA) having been destroyed at ground zero? The answer to that of course is one of those exhibits was falsified in its entirety while the other is a more realistic representation of the facts as they stood.

In fact the very manner in which the FEMA photograph was altered indicates the investigators were fully cognizant of which area of the UA175 fuselage the bits of wreckage had to resemble when they were being re-arranged there on WT5. That in my opinion strongly suggests it had been arranged to suit an agenda. It’s quite obvious then as the FEMA photograph depicts one large piece of wreckage with an obvious remnant of aircraft registration number thereon it while the wreckage seen in the Gary Steficek video footage on the other hand shows no sign of that aircraft registration number. In fact the video shows the entire left portion of the wreckage (as seen in the FEMA photograph) was never a part of the larger piece of wreckage at all!

The only other evidence I’m aware of that lends itself to confirming the aforementioned irregularity and proves one or the other exhibit more reliable and accurate is the photograph (Copyofplanepartrf20-full). I have not been able to corroborate the official source of this photograph but it appears to have been generated by FEMA aka the WTC site investigators. Regardless of where it came from the general WTC 5 rooftop setting appears to be genuine and as such I believe it proves one thing…the small piece of wreckage had been carefully arranged to the left of the much larger piece of wreckage, but not unlike its larger FEMA counterpart it too had the aircraft registration number added to it. Putting that aside for a moment the important thing to consider now is the configured wreckage therein proves one thing if nothing else and that is the FEMA photograph had been Adobe Photoshop altered to have the wreckage appear as one piece that originated from a specific area of the UA175 fuselage.

All things considered then I would expect any one of the investigators to explain why the large piece of wreckage (as seen in the Gary Steficek video footage and/or the image Copyofplanepartrf20-full) just so happens to be devoid of any numbering or lettering while Mr. Corley’s FEMA/ASCE photographic evidence clearly depicts the same large piece of aircraft wreckage in roughly the same arrangement with definite numbering and lettering emblazoned thereon it.
By that reasoning I maintain the investigators knew it was crucial those pieces be logically pre-arranged on WTC 5 in a fashion resembling the AFT right hand side of the UA175 fuselage and as close to that livery as possible, so as to more precisely replicate that United Airlines flight 175 livery in the photo-lab in order to convincingly sell it to the 9/11 Commission. The fly in the ointment being of course the likes of the very revealing and “leaked” Photoshop altered image “Copyofplanepartrf20-full” that clearly defies what the Gary Steficek video shows and that being there was no such piece of wreckage attached to the area in the general vicinity of the aircraft registration number, as shown in the FEMA photograph. As such whoever placed that small piece of wreckage bearing the questionable aircraft registration number to the left of the larger piece they surely did so with purpose before taking their photograph (Copyofplanepartrf20-full). The facts they could have arbitrarily photographed the small piece of wreckage to the right of the larger piece (had they not known the proper orientation and configuration of the wreckage) and they didn’t well that’s very telling of the investigators planning and motivation.

The fact is someone had obviously gone out of their way to forge the FEMA photograph by adding the UA175 registration number and the only logical explanation for their having done so is they were mandated with changing the non-descript aircraft wreckage in their possession into something recognizable, because as it stood it was not unlike any other piece of medium wide-body Boeing aircraft fuselage. That is a fact I had confirmed most recently and by a highly experienced Boeing 767 Aircraft Structures Technician who considered and commented on my research material. Hence Gary Steficek’s video footage showing a prime example of the wreckage being unidentifiable and with that evidence bearing no resemblance to UA175 and with no means of identifying it as such the investigators saw fit to change that by concocting evidence.

With that said the FEMA wreckage does not lie and for all the reasons above I know it didn’t just randomly flutter down onto the rooftop of WTC 5, but in order to fully appreciate my reasons why I’m absolutely certain of that it’s essential the readership understands how that area of any Boeing 767 airframe is constructed, so as to fully comprehend why the wreckage shown in the FEMA/ASCE photograph is irreconcilably different from the actual physical characteristics of the AFT right hand side of UA175’s fuselage and livery.

I am certain of that because for one thing the FEMA wreckage is devoid of the tell-tale requisite butt joint seam that runs vertically between the last and second to last passenger cabin window cut-outs on both sides of every Boeing 767 fuselage and perpendicular to its longitudinal axis. In UA175’s case it did so to the right of the (2) in the aircraft registration number marking (N612UA) painted on the right hand side of that fuselage. But not surprisingly then that seam is unaccounted for in every piece of official video and photographic evidence depicting FEMA’s alleged UA175 evidence. Its omission can only mean one thing - the small piece of wreckage with the (falsified) registration number on it shares no rightful place to the left of the large piece of wreckage (as shown in Copyofplanepartrf20-full) and likewise then the identical Photoshop layout and alteration made to the FEMA/ASCE photograph is most definitely inaccurate in every way imaginable.

There is no reconciling why the two pieces of wreckage were staged the way they were, with the small piece of aircraft wreckage showing the partial “N6….” on it having been placed to the left of the larger piece with the small painted mark on it. The only other explanation for this painted mark is that piece of wreckage came from some other area (of whatever fuselage) and if indeed it came from United Airlines flight 175 at all after being destroyed then its livery should tell us exactly where it originated from on that fuselage. In fact and as I stated previously the painted mark itself (or white speck of paint if you prefer) seen there at the upper extremity of the wreckage, just above and slightly to the left of the midline between the damaged/half missing window cut-out and the window cut-out on its immediate right is the determining factor belying the truth of the entire matter of that FEMA photograph.

That mark is in fact a definite 90 degree angle painted on the wreckage and there can be no doubt about it - we are expected to believe that mark is what remains of the lower leg of the (2) in the painted on aircraft registration number (N612UA), however. It’s important to note here, because that painted mark does not sit directly above a passenger cabin window with the tell-tale requisite butt joint seam just to the right of both features the mark cannot possibly be that of the of the (2) in the aircraft registration number on the right hand side of UA175. According to the UA175 livery then it’s highly unlikely this mark is what the pseudo-investigators working for FEMA would have us believe it is.

The second and only other possible location on the right side of the UA175 fuselage that painted mark can readily be matched with happens to be the (A) in the registration number, however. Due to the fact there is not one but two passenger cabin windows to the left of the (A) as seen in any UA175 photograph and yet the FEMA photograph shows only one window cut-out to the left of the painted mark, there’s no way to reconcile the painted mark then as it cannot possibly be from this location either. That leaves two other possible locations, both of which are on the left hand side of the fuselage, according to the UA175 livery that is. In fact the painted mark only partially compares to the (I) in “United” and the (N) in “Airlines” Having said that and although the (2) in the registration number on the left hand side of the UA175 livery does appear similar to the area in the FEMA photograph there’s absolutely no way that location works. Due to the fact there is only one passenger window to the right of it while many window cut-outs are seen to the right of the painted mark in the FEMA photograph.
As for the remaining two locations on the left hand side of the UA175 fuselage the painted mark does not have the requisite butt joint seam running vertically between two windows and to the right of it, therefore the question remains “Is that mark what remains of lettering or numbering from UA175’s livery and if so why does it not resemble any known location on that airframe?”

To that end the Gary Steficek video footage and (Copyofplanepartrf20-full) not only proves there had been a premeditated and concerted effort to falsify UA175 evidence specifically thus exposing the FEMA/ASCE photographic evidence as fraudulent but far more importantly then that evidence of fraud clearly demonstrates those government officials lied about what they knew of the events that day and if they lied about that then what else are they not telling us? Therefore and irrespective of what people wish to believe of the World Trade Center attacks on 9/11 the fact remains Mr. Corley’s WTC site investigation constitutes the falsifying of evidence and the obstruction of justice while his UA175 physical evidence and conclusions amounts to Fraud.

The issue then is not so much a matter of what initiated the collapse of the twin towers but more so then it’s a question of what specific aircraft were crashed into the World Trade Center towers and exactly who had control of them at the time? While Mr. Corley has taken credit for discovering and positively identifying bits of wreckage he attributes to UA175 he’s never actually shown proof of that but rather then he merely intimates he has such proof, however. What I do believe of him is he sure as hell knows of the fraudulent nature of the UA175 evidence he’s been peddling these past ten years and since 9/11. In fact while no other authority has ever independently confirmed Mr. Corley’s attestations and conclusions to that affect that fraud he peddles has been confirmed as such by numerous Aircraft Structures Technicians familiar with Boeing 767 design and construction and therefore it is safe to say Mr. Corley’s UA175 investigation failed to prove so much as a single irrefutable piece of evidence directly linking United Airlines flight 175 to 9/11 by way of any chain of custody.

With that said just two months ago I was granted full access to photograph the stripped passenger cabin of an Air Canada Boeing 767-300ER undergoing a major overhaul in Richmond, B.C. Canada and needless to say I took full advantage and many very telling snapshots of its exposed right-hand sidewall. Obviously then I’d focused my attention on photographing (for the record) that specific area of fuselage I’ve insisted all along the WTC site investigators attempted to replicate by first arranging the aircraft wreckage, then photographing it as such and later altering it through the use of Adobe Photoshop.

Since taking my photographs of the Boeing 767 I’ve studied and compared the fuselage therein with that fraudulent official evidence, to which there can be no doubt the aircraft superstructure I photographed in no way resembles the expert’s supposed UA175 wreckage. As such my photographs compliment the recent FOIA (NIST cumulus database) release of Tami Michael’s video footage (taken at ground zero on 9/11 and throughout the ordeal) and together our evidence disproves the World Trade Center Building Performance Study team findings hands down, as I have shown throughout my research. Remember, the NIST cumulus database is the entire body of evidence Mr. Corley researched in order to arrive at his conclusions and May 1, 2002 WTC BPS final report and therefore to dispute my evidence is to disprove his for that reason.

So let me assure you the fuselage of UA175 and the Boeing 767-300ER I’d photographed are identical in every way, shape and form except for the length while the wreckage in Mr. Corley’s photographic evidence doesn’t appear to be that either airframe. The 767-300ER has the longer fuselage of course but other than that the fabrication of either fuselage utilizes the exact same sheet metal components and assembly methods during their manufacture. So for all intent and purposes they are one and the same fuselage then, as confirmed by the Boeing 767 specialist who answered my questions while I was taking these photographs.
While I was taking these photographs we’d spoken at length about my hypothesis and the more I explained myself he grew noticeably perturbed by my UA175 research and conclusions. Although his response was not uncommon, as I often receive admonishment from my peers within the aviation community for my research, I was not impressed he thought he knew better of it all and me. I say that because he didn’t bother to hear me out in full before deeming my research wholly irresponsible and presumptuous. In fact it was his opinion I’d simply misinterpreted the FEMA/ASCE photograph and cherry picked whatever statements made by Mr. W. Gene Corley best suited my hypothesis.

According to him I’d made a mountain out of a molehill and as such my hypothesis is groundless and my research without merit, primarily because I hadn’t analyzed the physical wreckage whereas the investigators had. Not to mention their credentials and reputations are well beyond reproach he insisted, whereas I’m just an aircraft mechanic with no Boeing 767 experience. What’s more then he argued, not once in all the years since 9/11 had a single investigator or expert witness ever raised the specter of that United Airlines flight 175 evidence being of a questionable nature and that’s why interpreting aircraft accident evidence should be left to the experts he said. With that said he argued “…the fragment of aircraft wreckage in your friend Mr. Corley’s photograph is unidentifiable I’m afraid. You say it’s from UA175 but I’ve no cause to believe you…I say that because there isn’t a single feature about the wreckage that distinguishes it from any other piece of fuselage of any medium wide-body airframe. In fact there’s no saying where it’s from because of its non-descript and featureless appearance...” It was then I reminded him I’ve never believed or argued in favor of that wreckage being from UA175 while Mr. Corley has always insisted it was.

With that misunderstanding clarified I then let this individual in on my true belief all along by stating “If that’s your professional opinion you’re aware then you’ve just established expert technical analysis that confirms the reason why I’ve always said that piece of wreckage could very well be salvage from a Boeing military aircraft that was made to look like a commercial aircraft and not be that of United Airlines flight 175 debris at all!” and with that said he’d suddenly clued in as to the logic of my case and where I’d been leading him with our conversation all along. As such he promptly back peddled to defend his analysis of the wreckage by arguing it had to be from UA175, if for no other reason simply because the aircraft is unaccounted for to this very day!

Knowing very well there is no way anyone can reconcile the contradictory partial registration number therein Mr. Corley’s photographic evidence I drew his attention to it and asked him to opine how it is Mr. W. Gene Corley overlooked that most important, clearly discernable and invaluable UA175 clue to identifying UA175. Realizing even Mr. Corley hadn’t been so stupid as to hazard answering me on that one he simply argued the smudge of white I insist is a partial registration number therein the photograph doesn’t appear to be anything of the sort. It was indiscernible and therefore inconclusive as far as he was concerned and that’s where he ended our conversation, by brushing me off and dismissing himself.

So the point to make with my mentioning that exchange is even a Boeing 767 Structural Technician believes the WTC BPS team UA175 evidence is highly irregular and contestable evidence and in light of his expert determination for that wreckage I encourage everyone who reads this to email Mr. Corley (at GCorley@CTLGroup.cm) to ask him why he has never made mention of the existence of that registration number thereon the physical aircraft wreckage he must have seen with his own two eyes sometime between October 7-12, 2001. I believe Mr. Corley never acknowledges the registration number in his photograph because he’s fully cognizant of the fact it never existed on the chunk of wreckage in the first place and what’s more then he’s not stupid enough to incriminate himself or others by now insisting it did exist just as the FEMA/ASCE photographic evidence shows. He doesn’t respond to my emails on the matter because he knows well enough to remain silent on the matter, as that affords him a plausible deniability defense should we ever see his pathetic hide in court to answer for this lie.
I had my doubts the aircraft registration number existed on the physical wreckage the first time I read through the apologist Mr. James Meig’s article Debunking The 9/11 Myths: Special Report, wherein he wrote “Corley and his team photographed aircraft debris on the roof of WTC 5, including a chunk of fuselage that clearly had windows. “It’s…from the United Airlines plane that hit Tower 2…Corley states flatly…” The article goes on to say “In reviewing crash footage…Corley was able to track the trajectory of the fragments he studied…as they tore through the South Tower…” What the article doesn’t say is Mr. Corley set about confirming his theory and the chain of custody to that wreckage by actually investigating its origin and not simply relying on everyone’s ignorant assumptions.
Needless to say then since reading that statement I’ve questioned how anyone could possibly believe Mr. Corley’s vehement insistence the chunks of debris he tracked via videotape, that fell directly onto the rooftop of WTC 5 from WTC 2 according to him, constitute proof of UA175 while he’s never made mention of that partial aircraft registration number thereon the exact same wreckage. Especially if one considers the impeccable chain of custody that one invaluable clue would have represented for his entire UA175 case. It doesn’t make sense - what other explanation is there for Mr. Corley neglecting to mention such a Godsend of a clue that would surely have put an end to this debate years ago.

Aside from that fact Mr. Corley’s previously mentioned testimony is quite telling in and of itself, not only because the definition of “debris” and “including” describes more than one of something but due to the fact he felt it necessary to soundly declare “It’s…from the United Airlines plane…” on the heels of “including a chunk with windows in it” as though people needed to be told and convinced of it. So when it’s proven the wreckage in his photograph is comprised of more than one “chunk” and none with registration number markings on them I’ll be sure to bring it to the attention of Mr. Corley and the aforementioned Boeing specialist who said of my photo analysis “…a qualified photographic forensics analyst has never reviewed the evidence or substantiated your claim and for that reason alone I don’t share your opinion there’s more than one piece of fuselage sheet metal visible in the photograph…”

By his opinion then it’s not just me who’s unqualified to investigate aircraft accidents - Mr. Corley is a tall building expert, of which not a single FBI or NSTB aircraft accident investigator in the past nine years has gone on the record to corroborate the existence or authenticity of Mr. Corley’s WTC site findings and supposed UA175 evidence vis-à-vis any chain of custody leading back to the moment of demise for the aircraft that struck WTC 2 on 9/11. In fact not a one of them has ever made mention of this photograph since 9/11 and despite the fact it’s the only official and continually reproduced piece of evidentiary proof of said UA175 wreckage to ever to have been published and/or made public by the authorities. Yet this Boeing 767 specialist remains convinced as they’ve all attested…”I know what I saw crash into the towers that morning and they were large commercial aircraft…it had to have been United Airlines flight 175 I tell you…only the conspiracy nuts believe it wasn’t passenger planes that hit the buildings. That’s what the experts would have us believe while each photograph of mine says a thousand words to the contrary as you will see.

The fact is Mr. Corley did not discover that wreckage first and neither did he identify it as belonging to UA175 by having compared it to a serviceable Boeing 767 fuselage. What he did was to watch some video footage and proclaim his opinion to be fact as Mr. Meig’s article makes that quite clear! Indeed Mr. Corley had proven nothing of United Airlines flight 175 having plowed into WTC 2 because it wasn’t his mandate to do so! Mr. Corley’s function as that of FEMA/ASCE team leader for the WTC site investigation had been “public relations mercenary”. Which meant as the UA175 cover-story took root and grew into the crystallized public opinion it is today it was his job to help snuff the truth, as to which (aircraft) murder weapons were used at ground zero, by helping to bury that evidence six feet under and smooth over the ground swell of WTC eyewitness reports and public disenfranchisement with the overall ground zero investigation.

It was never his intention to get at the truth of which aircraft crashed into WTC 2 nor did he intend to prove what mechanism brought the towers down just as it wasn’t his job in 1995 to uncover evidentiary proof that would have informed the public of the truth, as to how and why the Murrah Federal Building in Oklahoma had also been blown up from the inside out. To both ends this FEMA poster child of disinformation did his job(s) well and one doesn’t have to look too far and deep to find similarities between 1995 and 2001 in all of Mr. Corley’s FEMA “terrorism” investigative dealings. That too will come to light one day but regardless of whether it was the FBI, NTSB or FEMA/ASCE investigators who falsified that registration number there are many other telling yet unexplained irregularities visible in and around the wreckage itself that speak of the lies Mr. Corley has told.

For instance the spray painted acronym “NTSB” on the wreckage…by the way it’s that acronym which convinced me the second image posted online as (Copyofplanepartrf20-full) is genuinely the product of Mr. Corley’s making because it appears unchanged in both images. Therefore the second image is useful in showing the wreckage in a different light and as it existed on the rooftop of WTC5 at some point prior to it being rendered infamous by Adobe Photoshop.
Although the second image had been altered by Photoshop it is invaluable because it discredits the make-up of the officially released photograph. While comparing both images the “NTSB” acronym appears identical and yet one can clearly see the rust red colored piece of sheet metal/cladding (underneath the smaller fragment of fuselage with the registration number on it) appears to be two different lengths. Notice in the official photograph it’s quite long and take note of the fluted pipe that’s sticking up and out from under that rust red sheet metal/cladding there. That length of fluted pipe is propping-up the cladding itself which in turn is propping-up the smaller fragment of fuselage by at least a foot off the roof in the official photograph. Now look at second image whereby the length of the rust red sheet metal/cladding is mostly edited out of the photograph and the smaller fragment of fuselage appears to be suspended in mid air, while the fluted pipe is nowhere to be seen…suspicious?

The most disconcerting anomaly therein the official evidence isn’t even possible according to the Empirical laws of physics - that happens to be the dead straight edge of the aircraft outer skin next to the “N” and left of the first window (from the left) on the smaller section of sheet metal therein the second image. The odds of that skin tearing in a straight line as it is shown is without precedent and virtually impossible for several reasons. The first reason being the thin aluminum sheet metal of any aircraft outer skin never tears in a perfectly straight line when it’s subjected to extreme tensile or compressive loading, especially when that tear runs perpendicular to, through and over the intact substructure (stringer) it’s bonded to. That tear in the metal might have been possible had the outer skin been sheared parallel to the longitudinal axis of the stringer (seen above the window) or along the heavy chemically bonded doubler-plate and much like a sheet of paper is torn using the edge of a ruler to cut it. Take note of the accompanying tell-tale rows of rivet holes that run perfectly parallel to this tear. Even if it were only one row of rivet holes together these two clues amount to being a production edge or butt joint seam and not a tear per se.

Not a problem, except for the fact there’s no such production edge, joint or seam in that area of the circa 2001 United Airlines 767 livery. In fact no two fuselage skins are vertically conjoined anywhere near that area on any Boeing 767 and the fact three perfectly straight edges appear to have been torn into the wreckage is mathematically impossible and extremely suspicious because. Aside from those facts alone there are also valid reasons to doubt the cover-up story told by Mr. W. Gene Corley and the other investigators over the years. For instance it’s a well known fact he takes credit for himself and his WTC site team members having discovered that wreckage on October 25, 2001 and yet by his account he and the others were only on the WTC site between the dates of October 7-12, 2001. It’s also a well known fact the FBI and the NTSB were on site looking for aircraft parts the morning of 9/11 while the countless SEAoNY search and rescue volunteers and later the NYFD firefighter recovery teams were on site at ground zero immediately following the attacks as well. Together they swept the WTC site clean looking for aircraft parts and survivors and later for bodies then in the days and weeks following the attacks of 9/11.

It’s a well known fact the NTSB identified the fuselage wreckage on the rooftop of WTC 5 in those early days because they marked it with the acronym “NTSB” in yellow spray paint and no later than (9/19/01). I say that because the exterior walls of the WTC 5 penthouse maintenance room were spray painted in red with the words “AIRCRAFT PARTS” no later than September 19, 2001 and according to one photograph therein the NIST cumulus database. So why didn’t they retrieve this identifiable wreckage with the “N6….” on it then like every other bit of wreckage they sequestered? Why had the FBI and NTSB elected to leave it there on the rooftop of WTC 5 for the better part of a month and a half while they located, identified and destroyed every last scrap of aircraft wreckage in Lower Manhattan that was identifiable as being from UA175? I believe they left it there because it was unidentifiable (as in non-serialized and no registration number thereon) and useful to the cover story. By that I mean the FBI and NTSB knew within days they would be asked to bow out of the WTC site aircraft accident investigation and leave it to FEMA so they salted the WTC site with evidence to their liking.

That’s why the FBI and NTSB left the wreckage for Mr. Corley to find, but don’t just take my word for it when Carol Carmody (Vice-Chair of National Transportation Safety Board) is quoted as saying on February 27, 2002 in her presentation at the Leadership in Times of Crisis Seminar “On the morning of September 11, 2001…the FBI Director Mueller…called and said could you send us some people to help find the black boxes and help identify aircraft parts. We dispatched teams immediately to…New York…Our investigators stayed in New York for several months working both at Ground Zero and at the Freshkill site where large amounts of debris were taken to be sorted.”

What’s more then, it’s a well known fact the FBI and the NTSB always work hand in hand in such matters, just as they did from the onset of the 9/11 attacks to secure the WTC site. Carol Carmody made that point quite clear earlier in that same February 27, 2002 presentation when she said “The NTSB was created by Congress to investigate accidents…We have this authority across all modes of transportation, although aviation gets the most attention. We are the lead agency in aviation accidents unless there is credible evidence of criminal activity. In that case, the Attorney General and the Chairman must confer and the FBI would take the lead.”

Carol Carmody’s February 27, 2002 testimony preceded that of her bosses, Marion C. Blakey (Chairman National Transportation Safety Board) who testified (for the record) before the Committee on Commerce, Science and Transportation United States Senate on June 25, 2002…”As you know, the NTSB investigates every accident involving civil aircraft, accidents involving military and civil aircraft and aircraft accidents involving public aircraft other than aircraft operated by the Armed Forces or by the United States intelligence agencies…In the aftermath of September 11, 2001…for many weeks the Board assisted the Federal Bureau of Investigation (FBI). Over 60 Safety Board employees worked around the clock in Virginia, Pennsylvania, New York…and in Washington D.C., assisting with aircraft parts identification…”

Lastly then Mr. Corley testified on March 6, 2002…The Structural Engineering Institute of ASCE (SEI/ASCE) began assembling two teams of experts on the afternoon of September 11, 2001 and by October 1, 2001 the WTC study became a joint effort between ASCE and the Federal Emergency Management Agency. So there you have it - confirmation the NTSB stepped aside to make way for the authority of the FBI to lead the WTC site investigation immediately following the attacks of 9/11 and ultimately they both stepped aside for FEMA.

That being the case the previous paragraphs explain why this wreckage (discovered on or before 9/19/01) has the acronym “NTSB” emblazoned on it. All of which is further evidence that only the FBI and NTSB could have identified that wreckage first and they know of its original state but aren’t telling. So to recap; the FBI and the NTSB employees identified this aircraft fuselage wreckage on the rooftop of WTC 5 in mere days following the attacks but no later than 9/19/01 and yet they never mentioned it was there nor did they remove it. Instead they elected to leave it there on the rooftop for Mr. Corley to rediscover and identify more than a month later, in order for him to take credit for finding it and even though the “NTSB” acronym proves otherwise?

“Why would they have done that?” is the question people should be asking and demanding answers to, especially when it’s common knowledge certain FBI officials had all of Lower Manhattan stripped bare of everything resembling an identifiable bit of aircraft, only then to send that wreckage to the Fresh Kills Landfill site on Staten Island where in the following weeks it had been “recycled” without giving any consideration to normal investigative standards and procedure. Let’s call it for what it is…They destroyed all the crucial evidence and what they left behind was no better than garbage – it was totally useless as evidence and an insult to the intelligence and integrity of any self-respecting investigator. They did it because they were forced to, that’s why!

Ask yourself who carried out that specific operation and who might have complained loud enough about it thus compelling even Mr. Corley to admit “…there has been some concern expressed by others that the work of the team has been hampered because debris was removed from the site and has subsequently been processed for recycling.”? Probably some pissed off, patriotic FBI and NTSB officials or enlightened civil servants I’d say and when you know their names you know at least one potential whistleblower that can hang their asses out to dry.

When the Boeing specialist asked me why the FEMA/ASCE investigators would falsify their evidence I reminded him of M. Corley’s statement in the previous paragraph “…because debris was removed from the site and has subsequently been processed for recycling.” which really means “the WTC site was knowingly stripped clean of every single identifiable aircraft component that would have proved something other than commercial aircraft slammed into WTC 1 and WTC 2” and it was the job of the FEMA/ASCE investigators to convince the public to go along with the commercial aircraft cover-up story by any means necessary. In other words they made a molehill out of a mountain of incriminating evidence…oh the irony.

Ask yourself why Mr. Corley had been placed in charge of the entire WTC site investigation when the FBI and the NTSB clearly had jurisdiction for the UA175 investigation on the WTC site and why had demonstrably unqualified tall building experts been parachuted in by FEMA to head an aircraft accident/crime scene investigation in the first place? Consider the fact it was Mr. W. Gene Corley (the tall building expert) who praised himself and his team members for having “evaluated, discovered and identified” that aircraft wreckage while the FBI and the NTSB have never acknowledged his contribution in the least. In spite of that self-praise consider the fact all Mr. Corley managed to come up with (after millions of dollars spent and many thousands of man-hours squandered investigating a lie) was a single photograph showing unidentifiable fragments of fuselage wreckage of a questionable origin and a highly suspect chain of custody…that’s quite the accomplishment alright. Yes, something is very wrong with the big picture and the entire WTC investigation is utterly absurd!
With everything I’ve said put aside the fact remains, if you remove and isolate the contentious aircraft registration number from the FEMA photographic evidence what you’re left with is Mr. Corley’s expert opinion and a piece (or pieces) of unrecognizable aircraft sheet metal that proves nothing of UA175 ever having been flown into WTC 2.



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Due to all the 9/11 bullshit being floated by the mainstream media pundits as of late I fear I might have swallowed a little of the multiple liars words there on the tube so I need to purge and I mean really rant here to clear my sense and sensibilities of that shit they were spewing just the other day.
Seriously though, all I can say about what I’ve witnessed of the September 11th commemorations this year is Thank bloody God that sideshow cremation of care rite has come and gone and all the architects who wrought that diabolic Project for a New American Century upon us have since slithered back into their cesspool of unconscionable moral rot. Gone for another year and good riddance to them I say. Quite frankly the sheer audacity of those murdering hypocrites astounds me and how they dare show their faces around the family members of the victims is beyond my comprehension then. Needless to say it was all quite unbearable for me and I couldn’t watch.

Fortunately for me the only place I’m exposed to both television and/or newspapers is the lunchroom where I work. Thankfully then and not unexpectedly or long into the televised 9/11 commemoration my co-workers abandoned that cause celeb for something considerably less telling of their apathy and ignorance. By that I mean many of those I work with are mental midgets and they soon began channel surfing for anything else less taxing on their attention spans and fortuitously then the television reception at work sucks and they gave up. The set was turned off soon after and much to my relief.

I suspect it wasn’t long after that the politicians, pundits and pawns there in New York that morning tired of the sordid affair as well and voila, just like rats they scurried from that sinking ship I’m sure, back to their wanton forget like someone turning off a light switch. All said and done how maddening it’s been for me throughout the past few weeks then. For having tried in vain to avoid all 9/11 coverage of those assholes, only to be caught-up on occasion having to endure sound-bites and the occasional visual snippet here and there of the MSM bullshit 9/11 coverage.

As mentioned I didn’t watch any of that schlock, just like I don’t watch television 99.99% of the time I’m awake. Neither do I encourage or commend the profound ignorance and stupidity in people of which television programming invokes. In fact I refuse to have television in my home, period. As such I still think for myself and really don’t give a damn about sports stars or fan favourites and bimbo teen idols those buffoons banter about on the idiot box. Just as long as they all stick to what they know best and I’m not involuntarily subjected to listen to another bloody word from them about a topic they truly know very little to nothing about. When it comes to the facts of 9/11 clearly they haven’t a clue and to make it all worse I had to dig very deep to find the fortitude to weather the bold print LIES of newspaper headlines as well.

Yes, I despise the mainstream media that much and consider everything it represents a despicable lot.

What bothered me most throughout these past few weeks was trying to remain silent by keeping my opinions to myself while I watched many a moron glue their attention to the idiot box or a newspaper in that typically misguided way someone does when they’re trying to make sense of it all, alas where none is to be found in either form, ever. How pathetic I find it all then, that people actually sought out television screens to inflict themselves with that sob-fest soma bullshit ceremony at ground zero, not unlike moths drawn to a flame which invariably incinerates them whole; body, mind and soul.

From it all I’ve realized and accepted not a thing about our human condition has changed in the ten years since the 9/11 Holocaust inaugurated this century and certainly not throughout ancient human historical record of human sacrifice. So how very ironic it seems to me then that we’ve tossed aside the most profound wisdom of our brightest forbearers. At a most crucial moment in time no less as history begins to remind us of its worst possible lessons that go ignored by most, yet again. The bottom line is we’re about to have our collective ignorant asses kicked back into the dark ages and with a vengeance too I suspect, but does anyone care about the coming tyranny? No, not at all, so long as they have their television to occupy their misery by.

How utterly disenfranchising it is then to know the vast majority of people still don’t know of even the basic cover-up that took place at ground zero on 9/11 and probably won’t ever get engaged, because they really couldn’t care less if they’re ever awakened to the truth of 9/11 or any truth at all for that matter. Rather then they choose to dutifully believe authority and the government’s storyline, even though the forensic research of people like me and that of highly esteemed and accredited industry experts proved long ago agents acting on behalf of the U.S. government lied in spades about the evidence and facts of 9/11. For that reason alone those people who believe the government FEMA agents storyline then are terribly misguided fools for doing so and how sad it is for me then to finally accept the vast majority of people couldn’t distinguish “tangible evidence from “opinion” even if their own lives depended on doing so.

From it all I finally and fully comprehend and accept as true the insight of a Muslim friend of mine, who said and meant every word of it on the morning of 9/11 as he sadly uttered “The people in the West are getting exactly what is coming to them as they well deserve...for their centuries old complicit ignorant indifference in World affairs and arrogant statist prayers” for which he is absolutely right to believe because “the man who would choose security over Liberty deserves neither.” Knowledge is free and what’s more it’s a powerful weapon when put to good use therefore anyone who doesn’t learn to take advantage of it deserves the lot in life they draw.

For that reason alone I’ve become completely disheartened by it all and will be discontinuing my 9/11 research soon enough, once I’ve definitively proven no Boeing 767-200 aircraft crashed into WTC2 on 9/11 that is. I am close to confirming just that and anyone interested will be the first to know the outcome here.
In the meantime then the U.S. government maintains to this very day the FEMA agents and experts they hired to investigate the WTC site aircraft crime scene are right and proper to insist they’d conclusively proven commercial aircraft most definitely cashed into WTC 2 and namely then United Airlines flight 175. They’d proven that they say from having reviewed video footage and photographs they’d taken of aircraft wreckage they adamantly insist fell from the second tower. Believe it or not that’s the gist of the U.S. government agent’s argument on the matter of UA175 and the backbone of its overall WTC site case. All of which amounts to YOU’LL BELIEVE IT BECAUSE WE’RE TELLING YOU SO, THAT’S WHY!

The truth is no such scenario has ever been proven. In fact no tangible evidence has ever been made public by the government to prove most of what it claims is “The Real Truth of 9/11” and especially with respect to the offending aircraft in all four crash scenarios. The sum total of all aircraft evidence the government presented to the public amounts to a few measly pieces of untraceable sheet metal and bits of landing gear now in a museum somewhere no-one aside from New Yorkers cares to visit.

Ironically then, as it stands the U.S. government still touts that absurd “smoking gun evidence” argument all the while insisting no valid reason exists to question its 9/11 findings and furthermore, any suspicion or talk of a possible cover-up on its part is unwarranted, despite the fact its own tangible evidence indicates as my related research proves quite the opposite is the case. Regardless of that we’re expected to simply take their word as gospel then and ignore all confirmed instances of evidence having been conjured into existence by the very experts who were taken into FEMA’s employ. What’s more then as far as those expert’s and the U.S. government is concerned the theories being spread in the alternative media amounts to pure conjecture, so they say. It’s all the work of “conspiracy theorists” no less and the attacks of 9/11 never happened the way those contrarians claim it did, right?

I could rest easy if the latter were the case but even though we’re ten years removed from 9/11 the fact is we’re still dredging-up incredible examples of tainted evidence proving otherwise. So regardless of what the U.S. government says is true the fact is even the little known falsified evidence that I’ve uncovered destroys the government’s case and conclusion United Airlines flight 175 crashed into WTC2.

Yes; I realize I drone on about that fact and it’s deliberate I tell you because it’s absolutely imperative people understand that crucial point. Hopefully then the more people to understand it and talk about it chances are someone with the power to investigate it and lay charges might do so in my lifetime. The logic is this - because I’ve proven every bit of aircraft evidence (the government claims to be proof of UA175) was in fact falsified by the government agents that means the government has yet to prove its case, from credible/tangible evidence.

In light of the fact no-one to this very day, including the 9/11 Commission, knows for sure what aircraft evidence is genuine and the question then is what became of UA175 if indeed it was not destroyed at ground zero on the morning of September 11, 2001? As important then is finding out what aircraft did crash into WTC2 because again the governments own evidence shows it couldn’t possibly have been a commercial aircraft. Needless to say knowing the truth and answer to either of those questions has the potential to blow the entire official 9/11 narrative right out of the water and sink those who knew of the collusion yet chose to lie and cover-up those facts! That being the case everyone should be demanding to see ALL the physical wreckage of the alleged UA175 aircraft the government is sitting on and if they cannot definitively prove to us UA175 was destroyed on 9/11 then a new 9/11 investigation must be convened immediately.

It all sounds too outrageous and fantastical I know and believe me I question my own findings often but anyone who believes I’m a sanctimonious and disrespectful asshole for continuing to haunt the government on this issue they need to look themselves in the mirror and ask what they’ve done lately in memory of and respectfully for the many innocent victims murdered on 9/11. I don’t owe anyone an apology and I sure as hell don’t make excuses for my politics and that goes for my immutable opinion on the matter of 9/11. Just as there’s no forgiving any of them, especially the WTC investigators who compiled that evidence, therefore it’s not me who owes an apology to the victim’s families and the survivors but they who’ve lied and will answer for it one day. As sure as Hell takes those the Devil knows by name it’s my opinion then the real truth and terrorists of 9/11 include those average American and Canadian citizens who haven’t and probably won’t ever get off their sorry asses to do a single bloody thing about their governments treason, including bother to educate themselves on the issue of 9/11.

That said a recent article written by Amy Chung and published in POSTMEDIA NEWS quotes John Wright, senior vice-president of public affairs for Ipsos Reid. According to him the majority of Canadian’s polled on the subject agree the terrorist attacks on September 11, 2001 were the defining socio-political event in their lifetime. John Wright goes on to say “What this poll tells us is this (9/11) scar is deep...There’s no doubt 9/11 has penetrated the soul of those people who were there at that time; who witnessed it in such great detail...we feel vulnerable...it’s a human security threat.” Indeed, what that article tells us then is despite the fact the individual knows better than to turn a blind eye still the vast majority of people simply go along to get along in life and by doing so over time they become a part of the problem society faces now, therefore they must shoulder some of the blame for 9/11 because.

Not surprisingly then Amy Chung told us nothing in her article of which the astute few didn’t already know, what John Wright the “expert” failed to inform her of, or she failed to explain to her readership then, is the fact the point to any such survey is to elicit a specific response by asking very pointed questions. That’s precisely how social engineers continually manipulate our circumstance, through pollsters at one end of the social spectrum and those at the other end who disrupt our lives in the first place, just as the murdering scum of 9/11 had done. That’s precisely why voluntary public surveys are a crucial part of the public’s regularly scheduled programming. In fact voluntary public surveys are an age old litmus test used by those at the top to effectively measure how their social conditioning is working on those of us at the bottom. Agree with me or not I don’t care and like it or not it doesn’t matter then because that’s just how it is. The point is her article serves us no purpose other than to remind us we’re all just aging useless eaters being kept in this glue factory for humans.

Likewise then the role of social media today is not to enlighten us but rather then to aid and abet the sterilization of our self-psyche by soliciting from us a "conditioned reflex” any old time they choose it simply by projecting any given sensory input they’ve trained us to respond to and fear being our most powerful motivator. In the old days they just took what they needed from us by force and torture in a dank sanatoriums laboratory not a unlike that of Ivan Pavlov’s day but these days they offer us cheap trinkets in exchange for us allowing them to dredge our minds with pointed questions that we volunteer the answers to. It’s brilliant on their part really but detestable none the less for what they do with that information.

Hence the scientific study of social engineering and propaganda by the founding father; the Public Relations granddaddy himself Edward Bernays. A fan and practitioner of Ivan Pavlov’s research and the man who believed and I quote “The engineering of consent is the very essence of the democratic process, the freedom to persuade and suggest.”

Not surprisingly then it doesn’t take either of their genius and certainly not an Ipsos Reid poll to enlighten “the informed” of the fact the majority of Canadian’s had responded exactly as expected...by turning inward and cowering from the manufactured hollow threat of bogie-man terrorist’s. Just as their American counterparts had reacted, by cowering their entire lives from all socio-political responsibilities their Constitution expects and demands of them as citizen patriots and exactly as the social engineers and traitors in office predicted with the answers they gleaned from their many decades of surveying the fools.
My point being their type of “expert” knew full well what they could get away with just as they knew what our long-term reaction to the attack would be. Like I said they anticipate our psychological response to everything they do, just as they harvest our emotions from the seeds they’ve sewn there in our minds throughout our entire lives. All of which brings to mind yet another shamefully inadequate and shabby little piece of journalism entitled “The Real Truth of 9/11” most recently shat out of the infamous government apologist James Meigs ass I suspect.

With twisted logic and his non-existent corroborating evidence still a mystery to me then, if nothing else what he managed to prove to me with that article then is he only intends to cause division each year and come September 11th by salting to preserve in the minds of as many ignoramuses as possible a deep seeded ignorance of the attack by instilling in them his politically biased version of “The Real Truth of 9/11” in which he chose to invoke emotion and his appeal to authority rather than the Truth. I’m not surprised one bit by that fact and his career wouldn’t amount to spit if not for the fact the majority of people in this amazing “age of information” still flock to and covet the much filtered gospel of 9/11 according to these false prophets come pundits for the MSM.

It goes without saying then the chief editors post at Popular Mechanics comes with certain privileges and liberties, apparently, whereby ones’ key role in that position is to exercise ones’ prerogative and voice ones’ own baseless opinions as well those of their puppet master employer. It’s that one hundred and nine year old tradition of the status quo proselytizing the ignorant by way of puppets like Mr. Meigs who libels with impunity those who question the oligarchy’s authority and oppose their myopic view. That very same privilege that allows James Meigs to get away with the 9/11 commentary he passes off as Truth! Therefore, anyone who considers factual anything Popular Mechanics publishes about 9/11 and supports that magazines bottom line at the checkout counter because of it, well they deserve the world and future they get.

Honestly then; both his articles amount to a covert condemnation of and assault on every ideal guaranteed the individual under the American Constitution and the Bill of Rights, as infringed upon by James Meigs, the man who makes it his business to attack anyone harbouring a 9/11 opinion all their own...God forbid any independent thinker should contest his and/or the governments numerous and erroneous 9/11 findings.

Let’s be clear before I continue. In my opinion James Meigs is a charlatan freelance journalist who relies heavily on being handed the research his “experts” assure him is factual but it appears he never actually confirms the veracity of his narrative by substantiating those details first. Indeed, it appears he simply regurgitates to parrot whatever fallacy the powers that be tell him to say and that fact is reflected in the quality and accuracy of his writing. So the very fact his amateurish assessment of everything 9/11 holds sway with as many people as it does well that doesn’t bode well for transparency, truth and valour in journalism today. A point I was reminded of as I read through his latest article while trying to find merit in any of his usual vagaries written there.

That narrative was published in the rag Popular Mechanics shortly before September 11, 2011 and to those in the know it’s no surprise then his article is a classic example of a lazy, two-bit hack not carrying out even a basic background check of the facts he reports on. In what amounts to part two of his 2005 hit-piece “Debunking the 9/11 Myths: Special Report” James Meigs further alludes to the lies the “experts” he consulted told him back then. However, what he fails to mention in his latest article is the fact the experts hypothesis such as “pancaking floors” and “melted steel” have since been completely debunked themselves, admittedly so and most recently then by the very mad scientists at NIST who first concocted those absurd concepts. Needless to say then that recurring theme of twisted logic, plausible deniability and outright obfuscation is found throughout the many 9/11 narratives of James Meigs.

Consider just one of those experts, the vaunted Mr. W. Gene Corley. The tall building expert who spearheaded the WTC site investigation and for that reason alone James Meigs consulted him for the aforementioned February 3, 2005 hit-piece he wrote for Popular Mechanics. Mr. Corley, the man who had no business serving in that capacity to begin with, if for no other reason simply because he hasn’t a clue about conducting a proper aviation crash investigation and he has no credentials and/or experience identifying high explosives let alone making and/or using them with proficiency.

As WTC site team leader Mr. Corley is the same individual who failed to secure that crime scene from incursion and looting by the FBI and NTSB yet he still insists he knows for a fact United Airlines flight 175 crashed into World Trade Center 2. Despite the fact Mr. Corley has never laid hands on a shred of credible evidence proving that to be the case and neither has a single piece of aircraft wreckage proven to be that of the alleged United Airlines flight 175 ever been made public by him, or anyone. That is the calibre of expert Mr. Meigs refers to, the man who refuses to respond to my questions about that falsified evidence he stakes his entire, now sullied reputation on.

If that is the calibre of professional “expert” Mr. James Meigs takes counsel with then surely he would take seriously the expertise of the rank and file membership of Architects & Engineers for 9/11 Truth and those at the organization Pilots For 9/11 Truth. They too investigate 9/11 falsehoods but on a continual basis and from an opposing vantage. Their thousands of fulltime experts also in the field of aviation, engineering and military actually know what they’re doing, what they’re looking for and what they’re looking at. What’s more is their facts don’t lie, so go figure why all those experts at A&E and P4T are considered to be wrong by Mr. Meigs while he considers himself always right? Is it because his sources are somehow more reliable? God knows his professional “experts” never fuck-up or fudge the facts now do they! But according to Mr. Meigs that’s all the A&E and P4T experts have done from the beginning.

In fact while he makes a host of generalizations and tenuous unfounded accusations against the entire 9/11 Truth movement in “The Real Truth of 9/11” not once did he make mention of or explain a shred of evidence to prove why exactly anyone who questions the 9/11 Commission and its overall official findings is a de facto “conspiracy theorist” and “9/11-Truther.” If indeed James Meigs is right in his claims he could easily make short work of the opposing argument of the most stalwart and educated, informed and well researched 9/11 contrarian by doing just that. So why I ask doesn’t he ever offer tangible proof of his claim and likewise then if he’s so sure of himself why does he refuse to debate the issue face to face with an expert panel of 9/11 contrarians?

Everyone, ask yourself why has James Meigs or his consulted “experts” never presented in plain view that credibly tangible evidence they claim disproves the theories and assertions made by those in the truth movement. Why have James Meigs and the experts never faced their accusers in person to answer for their evidence? Evidence we “conspiracy theorists” have persistently brought to their attention in the alternative media, again and again over the past ten years and successfully argued why it’s fake. For instance the kind of credible evidence that forms the basis of my United Airlines flight 175 research and findings of which its chain of custody cannot be denied and is clearly fake! So with lying con artist like James Meigs at the helm I’m at a loss to understand why intelligent people equate both him and the reputation of Popular Mechanics fame with magnanimously contributing to “leading science and technology” in any meaningful way, shape or form, especially if neither can be trusted to tell the truth.

Here’s a lesson in evidence for James Meigs then. According to the Oxford Dictionary the definition of Evidence being “the available body of facts or information indicating whether a belief or proposition is true or valid” but more specifically the concept of tangible by definition reads ”capable of being perceived especially by the sense of touch...”

So I’ve taken the liberty of defining Credibly Tangible Evidence as being “The available body of facts or information capable of being precisely perceived and identified by the mind, especially by the sense of touch, as well capable of being appraised at and actual or approximate value.” In other words then evidence is something we can see, hold in our hands and examine with the naked eye. So if Mr. Meigs should ever truly “...tackle this highly charged topic” by issuing forth credibly tangible evidence only then will he truly know what it feels like to be right and respected as a man of journalistic integrity. However, until that time comes to pass I believe it’s safe to say he’s got no credibility with the common man in the street and certainly no respect among his true peers, the public.

All things considered the title of both James Meigs articles says everything about his arrogated self and the biased political viewpoint he was hired to extrapolate on there at Popular Mechanics. So how obvious and absurd of him it was to state in his hapless prey in his latest article “...his sources all agreed with his view.” while simultaneously belittling by labelling that individual in his latest article a paranoid “conspiracy theorist” and all because he happens to believe 9/11 facts that are not in lockstep with James Meigs. The irony of that statement didn’t escape me and his saying so is quite rich and comical, because by definition James Meigs own modus operandi and character mirrors that of the individuals he labels a paranoid “conspiracy theorists.” just as Dr. Paul Craig Roberts so astutely pointed out when he wrote “But of course the government’s own theory is a conspiracy theory.”

That said I encourage everyone to read James Meigs February 3, 2005 article in its entirety and while doing so make note of the recurring names of those “experts” he cites therein and drew his conclusions from for that narrative. All of which can be cross-referenced in the “Sources” section of that article and matching them with the names of those people accredited with putting the FEMA final report together. Those experts he’d mentioned by name in most cases then are tall building experts and not demolition experts nor aviation crash investigators. More important to remember of them is the fact the most critical points they made regarding their WTC findings have been discredited along with similar suppositions arrived at in the NIST final report.

It’s clear then James Meigs is well versed in Edward Bernays propaganda tactics as well debating others one on one in-camera that is, but he wisely elects not to openly debate those who know their 9/11 facts and are prepared for him. That’s because he knows full well he hasn’t a leg to stand on and that’s why he prefers the far more damaging divide and concur tactic of separating any weak-minded fool from the herd. Like his simpleton prey he bragged about shaming in his latest articleand not because the individual’s facts were wrong but merely because that individual hadn’t read James Meigs book no less, as if to say only James Meigs is right about the 9/11 facts.

When he isolates someone who hasn’t got their facts straight then he writes about that individual and the entire truth movement in a similar light that which automatically brings disgrace upon everyone concerned. Therefore anyone foolish enough to debate James Meigs in-camera on the subject of 9/11 while arguing from the vantage of facts, evidence and reason will soon find them self at the disadvantage and for that very reason alone.

So while James Meigs latest treatise serves to prove he is the opportunistic predator I’d always suspected he was, it also serves to prove the vast majority of people these days are incapable of differentiating between debate and argument, which explains why those in the truth movement will never succeed at discrediting the government on the 9/11 issue. They will not do so as long as they’re taking the entire government on at once instead of divide and concur. Edward Bernays believed "If you can influence the leaders, either with or without their conscious cooperation, you automatically influence the group which they sway” and that ideological "enlightened despotism" he preached and practiced goes both ways but few in the 9/11 truth movement have considered it. Those in the truth movement need to turn separate James Meigs from his followers by first singling him out and then discrediting hi opinions hence his credibility and once people realize he’s nothing but a petty little tin-pot dictator himself he will then fall from his perch at Popular Mechanics and the rest of his ilk will follow.

All things considered “The Real Truth and Terrorists of 9/11” as I like to say is the majority of people around the world don’t give a damn about the truth of 9/11 any more than the politicians and pundits do and the fact is the majority of people couldn’t have cared less if the U.S. government was right or not about “Islamist Terrorists” having crashed hijacked domestic airliners into the WTC towers, just as long as they got their lives back to “normal” and were made to feel safe and secure again.

It’s time to change that by turning things around on the criminals.


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