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Question For Cit (and Others) About Potential Evidence Of Flyover Video

weneedanswers
post Jun 5 2011, 12:59 AM
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Good evening,

This is my first post. First off, great work done by CIT and P4T.

I want to get your thoughts on this video of what seems to be Porter Goss on 9/11 (presumably in D.C.). It sounds like there is an explosion and then an obvious sound of a plane flying over him and the reporters.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=39t9RJh9yW4

Questions:
1. Are you familiar with this?
2. Have these people been interviewed (me thinks some of them might have seen a white plane like the one described in CIT videos)?

There has to be a way to identify these people and find out what they saw (Highly Doubt Goss would answer you questions).
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post Aug 26 2011, 04:39 PM
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here in this bbc doc called "Clear the Skies" Goss explicitly states that he was inside the capitol building when the pentagon was hit:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=playe...DcSKnvqQ#t=290s

-so the boom heard in the natgeo clip was not the pentagon plane attack.
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QUOTE (paranoia @ Aug 27 2011, 06:39 AM) *
here in this bbc doc called "Clear the Skies" Goss explicitly states that he was inside the capitol building when the pentagon was hit:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=playe...DcSKnvqQ#t=290s

-so the boom heard in the natgeo clip was not the pentagon plane attack.


So yes Porter Goss was inside the Pentagon when the plane hit, so the footage of the explosion when he is giving the interview
must have been taken after the plane supposidly hit the Pentagon, so what could have created such a large explosion pre planted
explosives perhaps, becasue it certainly sounds like a bomb going of, not some stupid gas or propane bottle such as the idiotic
back patting government defending duh bunkers would have you believe. But we still dont know the exact time of the explosion
in the Porter Goss video.

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post Aug 27 2011, 02:27 AM
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QUOTE (9/11 Justice Now @ Aug 27 2011, 01:18 AM) *
So yes Porter Goss was inside the Pentagon when the plane hit, so the footage of the explosion when he is giving the interview
must have been taken after the plane supposidly hit the Pentagon, so what could have created such a large explosion pre planted
explosives perhaps, becasue it certainly sounds like a bomb going of, not some stupid gas or propane bottle such as the idiotic
back patting government defending duh bunkers would have you believe.



i wish i knew with certainty what caused the "boom", but i dont. if you scroll up i shared a link to a thread about my experience of a second explosion around 10:08am that day, which imo sounded very similar to whats heard in the natgeo clip ("dc witness"). speaking of which, if you watched the whole thing or at least the part shortly after the goss clip, it attempts to explain this boom as being the sound of an f16. but neither of the 2 clips they show of a fighter plane flying over dc skies is of a plane making that sound or even going fast enough to make that sound.

apparently, an "f16 sonic boom" is the explanation most people on the dc side were given and it seems to have stuck with them. in an effort to find the answer to this goss video mystery, i ran in to 5 seperate accounts of people hearing that boom and reasoning that it was an f16:

http://www.holycross.edu/departments/publi...ters/index.html
http://reason.com/archives/2001/09/11/live...apitol-building
http://livingcanvas.wordpress.com/2008/09/...hrough-my-eyes/

this is senator graham's account (note: immediately prior to the goss footage, he is seen in the natgeo doc exiting the senate side of the capitol building)
http://books.google.com/books?id=HI1zkhz9H...p;q&f=false
-the relevant quote is not in the free version of the google book, but i found a free version of the audio book and uploaded the relevant quote - u can download it here:
http://www.mediafire.com/?355ozxnd0t6gn2t

also in dc - reporter downtown says he heard explosions from the direction of the lincoln memorial, but then dismisses it as maybe being sonic booms (realtime 11:10am is when he speaks of it, but it happened earlier):
http://www.archive.org/details/fox52001091...-1117?start=0.5

-so all of the above people experienced a boom and saw a fighter jet overhead and associated the 2 as being related.

on the virginia side, please refer to that "second explosion" thread for most of the accounts (including mine). but here is an account (not posted in that thread yet) which mentions a second explosion:
http://www.archive.org/details/fox52001091...36?start=1019.5
-at 20:40 (roughly 10:14am real time) - some guy off screens asks/says that second boom was something hitting the washington monument (u might have to turn up the volume loud to hear him)

me personally, ive never been present during an actual fighter jet causing a sonic boom, so i cant say 100% that what i felt wasnt one (neverminding that the planes that day did not so supersonic). but as mentioned in that other thread, it felt to me (in arlington 1 mile or less west of the pentagon) like the concussion radiated up from the ground and not down from the sky. btw - i also recall that given how close what we felt was to the pentagon wall collapse, that some reasoned that thats what caused the boom, but i know for sure that the wall fell a few minutes after the boom, not during it.


see also:
http://www.historycommons.org/context.jsp?...tagonexplosions
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- weneedanswers   Question For Cit (and Others) About Potential Evidence Of Flyover Video   Jun 5 2011, 12:59 AM
- - Craig Ranke CIT   Hi weneedanswers, Yes we've seen that video a...   Jun 5 2011, 12:40 PM
- - A. Syed   One thing that's for sure: the explosion is a ...   Jun 7 2011, 08:44 PM
|- - Craig Ranke CIT   QUOTE (A. Syed @ Jun 8 2011, 01:44 AM) Th...   Jun 7 2011, 09:22 PM
- - A. Syed   One thing that seems clear is that the video is qu...   Jun 13 2011, 10:47 PM
- - A. Syed   So, if it's a secondary explosion, the the nex...   Jun 13 2011, 11:47 PM
|- - rob balsamo   QUOTE (A. Syed @ Jun 13 2011, 11:47 PM) N...   Jun 14 2011, 12:09 AM
|- - Craig Ranke CIT   QUOTE (A. Syed @ Jun 14 2011, 04:47 AM) S...   Jun 14 2011, 01:40 AM
|- - A. Syed   QUOTE (Craig Ranke CIT @ Jun 14 2011, 12...   Jun 14 2011, 03:58 AM
- - A. Syed   Well, OK, true. Either that guy is telling the tr...   Jun 14 2011, 02:48 AM
|- - paranoia   QUOTE (A. Syed @ Jun 14 2011, 02:48 AM) I...   Jun 14 2011, 02:55 AM
- - A. Syed   Thanks paranoia. And if indeed the subsequent exp...   Jun 14 2011, 03:18 AM
- - Craig Ranke CIT   The point is that unless more details about this c...   Jun 14 2011, 10:15 AM
- - onesliceshort   The Goss video clip has confused the crap out of m...   Jun 14 2011, 07:10 PM
- - amazed!   Wow, I can't believe I missed this one! G...   Jul 17 2011, 04:50 PM
- - paranoia   here in this bbc doc called "Clear the Skies...   Aug 26 2011, 04:39 PM
|- - 9/11 Justice Now   QUOTE (paranoia @ Aug 27 2011, 06:39 AM) ...   Aug 27 2011, 01:18 AM
||- - paranoia   QUOTE (9/11 Justice Now @ Aug 27 2011, 01...   Aug 27 2011, 02:27 AM
||- - 9/11 Justice Now   QUOTE (paranoia @ Aug 27 2011, 04:27 PM) ...   Aug 27 2011, 04:14 AM
|- - Craig Ranke CIT   QUOTE (paranoia @ Aug 26 2011, 09:39 PM) ...   Aug 27 2011, 01:19 AM
- - 9/11 Justice Now   Post deleted just forget it.   Aug 27 2011, 01:06 AM
- - paranoia   QUOTE (9/11 Justice Now @ Aug 27 2011, 01...   Aug 27 2011, 02:38 AM
- - amazed!   How do we know Porter Goss is not lying about wher...   Aug 27 2011, 10:23 AM
- - paranoia   QUOTE (9/11 Justice Now @ Aug 27 2011, 04...   Aug 27 2011, 01:22 PM
- - amazed!   I agree, Paranoia. I was just curious.   Aug 31 2011, 05:06 PM
|- - Sergio   QUOTE (paranoia @ Aug 27 2011, 03:38 AM) ...   Sep 23 2011, 11:02 AM
|- - FreshKills   QUOTE (Sergio @ Sep 23 2011, 10:02 AM) Hi...   Oct 19 2011, 06:14 PM
- - amazed!   Interesting points. I am very skeptical of Goss...   Sep 24 2011, 09:47 AM
- - Aldo Marquis CIT   Those are good points. P, do you have anything to ...   Oct 1 2011, 01:01 AM
- - A. Syed   Bump. The Goss clip is getting attention again on...   Jun 13 2012, 10:46 PM
- - DoYouEverWonder   QUOTE 0952 AFTER RECESS The House was called to or...   Jun 14 2012, 07:05 AM
- - Aquila7   This thread has been quite interesting and since I...   Mar 26 2013, 02:18 PM
- - onesliceshort   QUOTE It's clear the 10:10 "explosion...   Mar 26 2013, 04:58 PM


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